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Seeing news everyday about famous people caught out for letchering, seducing, raping other people they had power over makes me ponder how much of this goes on for every one else ?
Firstly I abhor any adult taking advantage of a minor...
I can only reference either my own life experiences or those of friends who opened up about their own lives.
I think it is normal for a person to feel attracted to another. Sure a great looking person may have hordes after them but most real people still find another person that they find special that another may take little notice.
At younger ages...people may be curious and innocent actions pass without angst. Then older or senior work associates may try to crack onto someone after drinking wine, whatever...the work Christmas party etc...where following weeks find discomfort or embarrassment.
It may be shrugged off or all hell breaks loose and someone is fired.
But...in reality humans are attracted to other humans, whatever sex...and it takes one to make the first move and I guess if a more intimate situation arises they must decide if it was mutually satisfactory or a one off thing.
Mature adults can move on without loathing or life long stress just because their life experience has made a few wrong turns over the years.
What worries me today is media and social media continually tell us about distressed people with lives ruined forever because they hold a 'dirty' secret till it comes out maybe decades later...
Is this just society manipulating people who are weaker to feel they were wrong or wronged and they must seek justice ?
A European mate of mine talks openly about his life...he is gay, and well adjusted to realities of lust and his needs. Experiences he had not expected yet later looked on as just part of life...no malice.
He knew from a young age he was gay...guess anyone will find themselves in their own time. He had experienced sex too young as far as my compass goes but he said it was nothing to stress about. I will leave that there as it is not correct these days to state examples of real life on an internet forum...
The News items make all this about lust and sex yet much of what happens is often the search for intimacy with another person who is mutually attracted.
As years pass one of the people concerned may regret experiences they had and build it up till all this news hype makes them break.
I reckon I could write a book but most would think it a fantasy...you live life, you go on...and if you find the right person to share it with beyond a sordid one night stand...your a lucky person. I wish I could say all I wanted to say on here but don't want to break boundaries or rules...so if this post seems a bit pointless the gaps I had to leave may lead you no where ? If anyone can understand any part and add OK...either way I understand not the easiest subject.
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It’s not complicated, it’s called consent. These charges being levelled at the these people are not from people who regret a dud shag, they are from people who had sex and touching forced on them. The perpetrators are men in positions of power, men who abused this by forcing themselves onto people they deemed as being weak, people that weren’t able to fight back.

I’m not seeing any reports of high powered senior male executives being molested by the lowly intern. Funny how that basically never happens.
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It's all just a feminist conspiracy to gain cultural domination, in the Baron mind.
How you can even talk about sexual assault and intimacy in the same breath is beyond me.
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Sexual assault can steal peoples capacity to enjoy intimacy, with anyone, ever again.
Sexual assault can steal peoples capacity to enjoy intimacy, with anyone, ever again.
Yes but you say can, that does not mean always that it will.
Yes but you say can, that does not mean always that it will.
... Wow.

What compelled you to actually let that thought escape your inner monologue?
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Sexual assault can steal peoples capacity to enjoy intimacy, with anyone, ever again.
That's my point...a bad sexual experience happens. I agree consent is the main issue. But how many of these stars, or wannabe stars were willing to go a step further for the sake of their career ?
Sure, that is no defence for the perpetrator but right now everyone is coming out of the woodwork over long past indiscretions. I don't give bad guys a pass...but if you had had an experience that you didn't value yet now relive it because of the media frenzy and have to make it public.
One of the stories my European mate told me was someone he knew spent time in prison in Germany years ago...he was raped and hated it ! He later told my friend but is living a normal life in normal relationships...Your mind is the thing. How you digest life events and how they impact on you...Then how you move on.
They are not wrapped in cotton wool...don't go to counselling...they don't have crap bottled up and cut themselves off from further relationships..
They shrug their shoulders and look forward. I accept not everyone has the same capacity to endue pain, sorrow or misadventure but in 2017 there are lots of very fragile people...I reckon.
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That's my point...a bad sexual experience happens. I agree consent is the main issue. But how many of these stars, or wannabe stars were willing to go a step further for the sake of their career ?
Sure, that is no defence for the perpetrator but right now everyone is coming out of the woodwork over long past indiscretions. I don't give bad guys a pass...but if you had had an experience that you didn't value yet now relive it because of the media frenzy and have to make it public.
One of the stories my European mate told me was someone he knew spent time in prison in Germany years ago...he was raped and hated it ! He later told my friend but is living a normal life in normal relationships...Your mind is the thing. How you digest life events and how they impact on you...Then how you move on.
They are not wrapped in cotton wool...don't go to counselling...they don't have crap bottled up and cut themselves off from further relationships..
They shrug their shoulders and look forward. I accept not everyone has the same capacity to endue pain, sorrow or misadventure but in 2017 there are lots of very fragile people...I reckon.

Rape apologia
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Red, you keep bringing the conversation back to sex and intimacy, but rape and sexual assault are fundamentally about neither of these things - they're about exercising power over unconsenting people. It's kinda like trying to relate DV to a massage because it involves physical contact...
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