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Every educated Persian I have met, including my girlfriend, considers January 1979 a black page in Iranian history. Iran was a strong country, with a developing economy, with good relations with almost everybody but also the strongest army in the region, with gender equality, a country ready to develop nuclear energy for peaceful means. I have read "answer to history". It's not just interesting, it's also touching in a way.

Since this is an architecture forum have a look at this:
The Milad tower is just a (very delayed) part of a much bigger project that never materialized.

Have a look at this, too: as I record collector I am proud to have found it in a damp basement in Soho in perfect sonic condition...dicontinued since many years, never issued on CD:

Here's the story behind it..

The record of the National Iranian Radio Television orchestra with the late Bulgarian conductor Emil Tchakarov playing Baroque music; by EMI, also circulated in the US by EMI/Angel. Absolutely top-notch playing, an excellent orchestra by international standards. That was in 1978...
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Both CNN and MSNBC are stating that there are demonstrations against ahmadinejad going on right now.....
Other channels are showing the election press conference
A horrifying yet inspiring post...thank you Shapoor.
UPDATE: Very large crowds in Enghelab square chanting "mousavi, mousavi!" despite cancellation. No sign of violence as seen on TV.
Iran's Mousavi joins Tehran rally: AFP

Defeated Iranian presidential candidates Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi appeared at an opposition rally in Tehran on Monday in a four-wheel drive car, an AFP reporter said.

It was Mousavi's first public appearance since the result of the disputed presidential election was announced on Saturday.

Mousavi has claimed that the election, which he lost to hardline incumbent Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was rigged.
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Malaysia police fire tear gas on Iran election protest
25 minutes ago
KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) — Malaysian police on Monday fired several rounds of tear gas to break up a noisy protest held by Iranians residing here against President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's controversial election victory.
Earlier more than 200 people gathered at the city's United Nations building to hand over a protest note demanding the world body nullify elections the Iranian opposition allege was rigged.
"We want all the countries in the world not to recognise Ahmadinejad as Iranian president. The election was fraud. The actual winner is (Mir Hossein) Mousavi," Ali Bozrgmer, a 28-year-old student told AFP.
He said the protest lasted for about one hour during which they shouted slogans such as "Where is my vote?" and "Ahmadinejad go to hell".
The protesters, who were mainly students from the local Iranian community of some 9,000 people, then continued their march along a busy road outside the UN building, he said.
Witnesses said the police warned protesters to end the demonstration before firing tear gas.
"The police gave us warning to disperse. But they suddenly fired several rounds of tear gas. We ran away," Bozrgmer said, adding that they plan more protests.
Mousavi has lodged a formal protest calling for an annulment of the result of Friday's presidential election, which he lost to hardliner Ahmadinejad, complaining of vote-rigging.
Iranian opposition supporters worldwide have staged demonstrations to protest at the election which returned Ahmadinejad to another four years in power.

This just proved that Iran's allies are no more than utterly disgusting puppets

Ina hame bazicheye ahmadinejadand!
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Report describing the Enghelab sq. rally:

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of supporters of defeated presidential candidate Mirhossein Mousavi gathered for a rally in downtown Tehran on Monday, defying an Interior Ministry ban, a Reuters witness said.

"The street is fully packed," the witness said, adding the crowd was waiting for Mousavi and other pro-reform leaders who back his call for the annulment of the official result of Friday's election, which showed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won.

Wearing Mousavi's green campaign colors and photographs of him, they chanted: "Mousavi take back our votes."

Several kilometers of a central Tehran thoroughfare were packed with people taking part in the rally, the witness said.

"Where are the 63 percent who voted for Ahmadinejad?" they chanted, referring to his official election tally.

"If Ahmadinejad remains president we will protest every day," they shouted. "We fight, we die, we will not accept this vote rigging," was another chant in the crowd.

As a police helicopter flew overhead, the crowd booed.

Ahmadinejad and Interior Ministry officials have dismissed allegations the vote was rigged. The president has called the election "free and healthy."

(Reporting by Parisa Hafezi; writing by Fredrik Dahl; editing by Dominic Evans)

Khatami also said he was determined to attend the rally
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Malaysia doesn't have much of a history for treating minorities humanely.
June 16, 2009
Iran Bans Opposition Rally as Critics Are Detained

TEHRAN — The main Iranian opposition on Monday postponed a major rally to challenge the disputed presidential election, as the country’s supreme leader called for calm after days of street protests.

In an unusual broadcast repeated every 15 minutes on state radio, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, was quoted as telling the main opposition candidate, Mir Hussein Moussavi, to pursue his objections to the election result calmly and legally.

The broadcast said that at a meeting on Sunday night, Mr. Khamenei told Mr. Moussavi, “Naturally, in this election, complaints should be followed through legal channels” adding that Mr. Khamenei told Mr. Moussavi to “follow the issue calmly.”

The radio also said Mr. Khamenei had instructed the powerful Guardian Council to examine opposition complaints of widespread electoral irregularities. Earlier, Mr. Khamenei said the vote, which gave President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad an overwhelming victory, had been fair.

It was not clear whether Mr. Moussavi had been influenced by the call for calm or by fears of renewed official violence against his supporters if the protest went ahead. Reuters said stick-wielding supporters of Mr. Ahmadinejad clashed with marching backers of Mr. Moussavi.

Morteza Tamadon, the governor general of Tehran, said Monday that the planned rally by Mr. Moussavi’s supporters had been declared illegal because the Interior Ministry denied permission to hold it, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.

Later, a Web site and news reports said Mr. Moussavi had postponed the rally and urged his followers to demonstrate legally and peacefully.

The impact of the postponement remained uncertain with some people on the streets saying they might gather anyhow to protest the re-election of Mr. Ahmadinejad in what his opponents call a stolen election. The rally was supposed to begin at Tehran University and reach Azadi Square several miles away.

On Monday, opposition Web sites reported that security forces raided a dormitory at Tehran University and 15 people were injured. Between 150 and 200 students were arrested overnight, by these accounts, but there was no immediate confirmation of the incident from the authorities. There were also reports of official action against students in the cities of Esfahan, Shiraz and Tabriz.

In Moscow, meanwhile, an official at the Iranian Embassy said that Mr. Ahmadinejad had delayed a visit to Russia that was to have started Monday. He was invited to attend a meeting in Yekaterinburg of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization that includes Russia, China and four Central Asian countries. He now plans to travel on Tuesday, the official said.


As concern about the vote spread among Western governments, the European Union’s 27 member states planned to issue a joint call on Iran to clarify the election outcome, Reuters reported. The French government summoned the Iranian ambassador to register concern about the fairness of the vote, and Germany planned to follow suit.

The Spanish foreign minister, Miguel Ángel Moratinos, told reporters in Luxembourg: “There is a need to clarify the situation and to express our concern that a sector of the population are having difficulties in expressing its opinion.”

The developments followed a weekend of growing tension. On Sunday, word spread that more than 100 prominent opposition members had been detained; riots erupted in Tehran and other cities; and the triumphant incumbent hinted that his top challenger risks punishment for questioning the result.

At the same time, two of the three opposition candidates and a clerical group issued fresh statements requesting an annulment of Friday’s ballot, which gave a lopsided victory to Mr. Ahmadinejad, a conservative who has become a polarizing figure at home and abroad. It was unclear how much further Mr. Ahmadinejad’s adversaries were willing or able to go in challenging the result. But supporters of the opposition candidates skirmished with baton-wielding riot police officers on the edges of a government-organized victory rally in Tehran. There were also reports of riots in other Iranian cities, and the protests were echoed by Iranians demonstrating against the election results in Washington and in several European capitals.

Mr. Ahmadinejad dismissed the opposition’s allegations of fraud, saying that the victory had given him a bigger mandate than ever. He criticized Mr. Moussavi, the main opposition candidate — who remained at home on Sunday with security forces closely monitoring his movements — in a veiled statement that many here saw as a threat.

“He ran a red light, and he got a traffic ticket,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said of his rival during a news conference at the presidential palace.

Those resisting the election results gained a potentially important new ally on Sunday when a moderate clerical body, the Association of Combatant Clergy, issued a statement posted on reformist Web sites saying that the vote was rigged and calling for it to be annulled. The statement warned that “if this process becomes the norm, the republican aspect of the regime will be damaged and people will lose confidence in the system.”

Mr. Moussavi called for the clergy to join his protest in an open letter late Saturday. It is difficult to say how influential the statement by the association, made up of 27 moderate clerics, will be in Iran’s complex and opaque power structure, but Ayatollah Khamenei, who has the last word on many important matters, is sensitive to clerical opinion.

Iran’s Interior Ministry announced on Saturday that Mr. Ahmadinejad had won about 63 percent of the vote, after a hard-fought election campaign and the rise of a broad reform-oriented opposition that clearly had rattled Iran’s ruling elite. Opposition leaders have catalogued a list of what they call election violations and irregularities in the vote, which most observers had expected to go to a second-round runoff.

The opposition members arrested late Saturday and Sunday were from all the major factions opposed to Mr. Ahmadinejad and included the brother of a former president, Mohammad Khatami, opposition Web sites reported. Some were released after several hours.

Mr. Ahmadinejad called the opposition protesters “unimportant,” comparing them to disappointed soccer fans after a match. He suggested the accusations of fraud were the work of foreign agitators and journalists.

He also seemed to be demanding affirmation of his election’s legitimacy from other nations, saying, “We are now asking the positions of all countries regarding the elections, and assessing their attitude to our people.”

The international reaction that trickled out Sunday was anything but a resounding affirmation, however. In the United States, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said there appeared to be “some real doubt” about the results. But he said the United States would press on with its effort to engage the Iranian government. The official IRNA news agency reported that President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela had congratulated the incumbent. Some Arab governments, notably Syria and Qatar, also welcomed Mr. Ahmadinejad’s re-election.

Clifford J. Levy contributed reporting from Moscow, and Alan Cowell contributed from Paris.
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Defeated Iranian presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi has joined a huge rally against the result of last week's election, defying a government ban.
AFP news agency reported Mr Mousavi told a crowd of thousands in Tehran he was ready to take part in a new poll.
Mr Mousavi, making his first public appearance since Friday's election, says the results were rigged in favour of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Mr Ahmadinejad has dismissed the claims and says the vote was fair.
The demonstrators gathered in central Tehran chanting pro-Mousavi slogans.
And Mr Mousavi eventually appeared, addressing the crowd from the roof of his car.

"The vote of the people is more important than Mousavi or any other person," he told his supporters.
Before Mr Mousavi arrived, Reuters reported that his supporters had scuffled with stick-wielding men on motorcycles - apparently supporters of the president.
Following two days of unrest, the interior ministry warned earlier on Monday that "any disrupter of public security would be dealt with according to the law".
The renewed protests come after Mr Mousavi and fellow defeated candidate Mohsen Rezai filed official complaints against the election result with the Guardian Council - the country's powerful clerical group.
State television reported that supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has upheld the election result, urged the Guardian Council to "precisely consider" the complaints.
A spokesman for the 12-member council said they would meet Mr Mousavi and Mr Rezai on Tuesday. They are expected to decide on the complaints by next week.
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New set of results given out:

"Amid a swirl of rumour, two alternative sets of statistics purporting to represent the reformist presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi as the "true" winner of Iran's disputed presidential election have been circulating in Tehran.

Their authenticity is impossible to gauge. One set, attributed to an "informed source" in the interior ministry and appearing on Iranian opposition websites, shows Mousavi winning 21.3m votes, or 57.2% of the total – enough to give him outright victory without a second-round run-off.

According to these figures, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won 10.5m votes (28%). The two other candidates, Mohsen Rezai and Mehdi Karroubi, are reported as gaining 2.7m (7.2%) and 2.2m (6%) respectively.

In contrast to the official result, the figures also report 600,000 spoilt ballots. Unusually, the interior ministry's official announcement made no mention of invalid votes.

The unofficial figures also record a different turnout statistic – 81% (37.4m) in contrast to the 85% given by the government.

The figures have been accompanied by claims from unnamed interior ministry sources that fake statistics were fed into a software program and then distributed to vote counts among polling stations to produce a plausible outcome. The same sources have also claimed that the interior ministry's statements announcing the results were prepared before Friday night's count.

Another – and arguably less plausible – set of statistics has been announced by a reformist former MP, Ebrahim Amini, now an adviser to Karroubi.

Putting the total number of participants at just over 42m, the figures show Ahmadinejad in third place, with the breakdown is as follows:

Mousavi: 19,075,623

Karroubi: 13,387,104

Ahmadinejad: 5,698,417

Rezai: 3,754,218

The competing statistics illustrate how difficult it could be to get a final result that will be accepted as authoritative. But suspicions of how the official outcome was arrived at may endure.

The Iranian website Balatarin posted an email said to be from an internet inspector in charge of six polling stations. It alleged that software had been rigged to register ineligible votes, including ones cast by children, dead people or by the same individual several times.

Last week, a group of interior ministry employees wrote to senior officials, including the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, claiming that the statistics for eligible electors had been deliberately understated at 46.3m rather than 51.2m. The ministry then printed 58m ballot papers, the letter alleged, paving the way for possible fraud. "

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yesterday people in babol beat up some basiji badly!two basijis have died accordind to rumors!
intehran my cousin saw junubshahris with ghameh fighting the basij and supporting student!they told them dont run away!we are so many!we fight for u!but dont run away!then they fight like afsaneye jomung:lol:
migoftan yaaaaaaaaaaaa hosssssssssssssseeeeeeeeein wa hamle mikardanbe basiji!migoftan allaho akbar hamle mikardan!pare pur kardan basijo!
junub shahriha az meydan raahan miyumadan be komake daneshjooha!

dameshun garm!zendebad mowaghemat!
mardom poshte mousawi hastan!
mousawi shoja bash!
allaho akbar!
kheili khoshhalam ke be hamyane Moosavi peyvasti va digar az Ahmadinejad hemayat nemikoni. Omidvaram ke kheili az hamyane digare Ahmadinejad ba didane in tasaavir nazareshoono avaz konan... . Be har haal baz ham khabar bede, agar mitooni... . Va yek soal: Internet yavash shode Iran? Va hanooz ham Youtube va Facebook filtere? Agar filtershekan i chizi khasti mitoonam behet bedam... . Be omide piroozi.
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Ahvaz protests at night:
Footage shows riot police with blood on face

Early morning, Today (25 khordad)

Today in Ghazvin
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Amanpour explaining how the Enghelab to Azadi square rally went
When asked about today's Mousavi rally, an officer has replied:

"Between 1.5 million to two million people have gathered," one policeman involved in the security operation for the protest told AFP.

err, did ahmadi say he had 1 million in his celebration? psshh
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