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Public consultation documents have been released for Islington Wharf Phase 4:



"The development involves a single residential mass, split into two volumes,
forming an 11 storey and a 16 storey block providing 106 one and two bedroom
apartments for private sale with communal facilities at ground floor level."



Storeys
16 and 11
Flat Type Count
1 Beds - 33 (31.1%)
2 Beds - 73 (68.9%)
Total - 106

Car Park Spaces
20 (4 accessible)
Cycle Spaces
106 (1:1 unit ratio)

Amenities
Commercial space, bike store, lobby and concierge with 24-hour security

Location (corner Great Ancoats Street & Old Mill Street):


More info the public consultation PDF

There will be a public consultation:
Venue - Cultureplex, Ground Floor, Warehouse, Ducie Street, Manchester M1 2TP
Date - 17 March 2020
Time 1400 - 1900
 

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Seems like they've decided phase 1 is their gateway building. Which is a bit disappointing, but at least phase 1 is still a pretty ace building.
 

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Given Oxygen is c.30 floors and the tower at Central Retail Park will be c.30 floors, another tower around that height would have been too much (especially as there are constant talks of Stocktons being bought and developed).

It's boxy but it has the same form and shape as Victoria House further up and it's half the size of Oxygen leaving some breathing room.
 

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https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/plans-readied-for-next-islington-wharf-phase/

Plans readied for next Islington Wharf phase
Dan Whelan
Waterside Places, the joint venture between Muse Developments and the Canal & Rivers Trust, is preparing to submit an application for the final phase of its residential project in Manchester.

The scheme would occupy a plot on the corner of Great Ancoats Street and Old Mill Street next to Central Retail Park. It would comprise two blocks of 11 and 16 storeys each, providing 106 one- and two-bedroom flats.

An additional 2,100 sq ft of ground floor commercial accommodation would also be provided, most likely for a shop or cafe, together with 20 car parking spaces and 106 cycle spaces.

A public consultation on the proposals was due to be held today but was cancelled as a result of the Government’s warnings against social interaction amid amid the national health crisis.

A spokesperson for Savills, the planning consultant for the project, said the initial intention was to submit the plans by the spring, and that, while it is still aiming for then, the date could change.

If approved this year, the scheme is targeted to complete by 2022.

The project team includes Savills as planning consultant, Ryder as architect, Buro Four as project manager, Hydrock and Hannan Associates as engineering consultants, and Rider Levitt Bucknall as quantity surveyor.

The first phase of Islington Wharf completed in 2008 and brought 500 residential units to the market. The second phase followed in 2015, delivering a further 46 homes.

The £15m, 101-home third phase topped out in June 2018 with residents moving in the following spring.

Eric Wright was lead contractor on the second and third phase of the project but no contract has yet been awarded for the construction of the final phase.
 

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Slight inaccuracy in the PNW article in that Eric Wright completed remedial works on Phase 2, Thomas Barnes was the original main contractor, who had all the issues with the fire stopping etc and went into administration. Anyway, I digress. Eric Wright have done a good job on Phase 3 and have done good work elsewhere. Would be a shame if they didn't get this.

As for the building, not particularly inspiring for me.
 

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Looks very decent and I don't really understand the dislike this is getting, it's a solid tripartite design which emphasizes a key corner within the city.

However, I'm not sure why the side facing Great Ancoats Street (shown above) has been slanted to 'reveal' the blank side of ISIS Wharf? Could this not have been built right up against the street, strengthening the street wall and blocking ISIS's blank side from view?
 

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Maybe so that Wharf residents don't start complaining about losing their view?
Tbf if I lived in a flat with one of those windows I'd be complaining about a new building being built within a metre of it.

The building is on a slant because Old Mill Street is.
 

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An 18 month build does appear to be a little short.

Plans in for Islington Wharf final phase

Waterside Places, the joint venture between Muse Developments and the Canal & River Trust, has submitted plans for the fourth and final stage of the scheme, 15 years after approval for the first phase was granted.

The 106-apartment complex is made up of two towers of 16 and 11 storeys respectively and would sit on the corner of Great Ancoats Street and Old Mill Street, with phase three to the east and phase one to the south.

There would be 33 one-bedroom apartments and 73 two-bedroom apartments split across 77,000 sq ft.

The project team includes Savills as planning consultant, Ryder as architect, Buro Four as project manager, Hydrock and Hannan Associates as engineering consultants, and Rider Levitt Bucknall as quantity surveyor.

Eric Wright was lead contractor on the second and third phases of the project but no contract has yet been awarded for construction of the final phase.

Islington Wharf 4

Subject to planning approval, work is expected to start on site in autumn 2021 with completion projected for the end of 2022.

Tom Webber, senior development manager at Waterside Places, said: “We’re really proud to have significantly contributed to the transformation and positive regeneration of the area, which has seen Ancoats rise to be named the 13th coolest place in the word to live in 2019.

“The final phase of Islington Wharf represents the last part of Waterside Places’ ambitious masterplan that began in 2005.”

The wider Islington Wharf development began in 2005 when plans were submitted for phase one construction, and the first project completed in 2008.

The joint venture has also brought forward projects at Granary Wharf in Leeds and Brentford Lock in London.
 

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Hear what you and MB are saying, but 11&16 storeys is still pretty big around thus fringe part of the city. Okay Gravity across the road is much taller, but equally these will tower over Royal Mills for example. They will fit in well in my opinion, without necessarily standing out, but this area and Piccadilly East, is still about place making, as much as simply plot filling, as they will essentially be new and significantly increased residential areas.
 

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Hear what you and MB are saying, but 11&16 storeys is still pretty big around thus fringe part of the city. Okay Gravity across the road is much taller, but equally these will tower over Royal Mills for example. They will fit in well in my opinion, without necessarily standing out, but this area and Piccadilly East, is still about place making, as much as simply plot filling, as they will essentially be new and significantly increased residential areas.
Any with the potential for a 30 floor landmark tower at Central Retail Park it will give that crossroads some breathing room.
 
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