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Hamilton City Council has gone public to state that the city will put forth a bid next month to bring the penguins to Hamilton. The backers are long said to be the owner of Tim Horton and the owner of the Blackberry Device RIM. Together various sources say they will put forth a bid higher than any other offer to bring the team to Steel City~!

http://www2.sportsnet.ca/video/vide.../38.99.151.50/sportsnet/pitthammer_060509.flv


This is great news for me as soon I will be leaving Toronto to buy a home for my future family in Hamilton!
 

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This is ONLY if the Pittsburgh First company, which has proposed a casino to help pay to keep the franchise in Pittsburgh and a new arena loses out on Pittsburgh's casino bid. Right now three casino companies are fighting to get the rights to a casino in Pittsburgh.
 

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And there are others lined up locally casino aside. Sorry Hamilton will have to settle with two NHL teams already in its area
 

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Would be nice to have a Toronto "alternative", though?
 

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I don't get it, why would it make any sense for a team to go to Hamilton. That would be like putting an NFL team in Roch and Erie. There is an abundance of NHL around Hamilton. Why not put a team in one of the Canadian cities that lost one?
 

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Hamilton deserves to have a team. They have the arena and great fans and the size to support it, but they are cursed by being right in the middle of a hockey saturated area. I don't think the Penguins should move there, I don't think that team should go anywhere. I don't like it when teams locate. The Jets should still be in Winnipeg, I think. If Hamilton gets a team, it should be by expansion, but I just can't see that ever happening.
 

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The NHL isn't in a position to expand and the shouldn't move nor is it necessary that they do move.

Sorry Hamilton, I'm sure that it's horrible to be sandwiched between two teams.

Oh the humanity.
 

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while it would be cool to see Hamilton get a team in the NHL, I wish it was NOT Pittsburgh that was the subject of this move...maybe Anaheim, San Jose, Florida, Nashville, Dallas, Carolina or maybe even Toronto itself (lol) Teams are needed in places like Quebec City, Hartford, Cleveland, Rochester Minneapolis or Milwaukee.
 

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... Winnipeg, Halifax, Cincinnati, and if the NFL can have Mexico City, then Moscow too lol.

Minneapolis HAS a team, too. And from what I gather, they're at least as good if not better than the team they lost.
 

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bjfan82 said:
Why not put a team in one of the Canadian cities that lost one?
Hamilton did have a NHL team called Tigers when the team got relocated it created what's now known as New York Rangers.

It be nice to have a NHL team in Hamilton but I also understand the problems. But we are talking about very wealthy people here willing to pay loads of money to relocate the Penguins to Hamilton. So that's sweet music into Gary Bettman's hears since all he cares about is money.

I think I kinda got the hint who is behind this bid today too. It's a group effort of wealthy guys from David Braley, Ron Foxcroft, Ron Joyce and Jim Balsillie. Two of those guys are like the top 15 wealthiest people in Canada.
 

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Same year as Columbus, right?

My little brother has a Wild jersey and he plays as them often in NHL 2006. He's not a fan of the team (Sabres fan), he just thinks their uniforms are cool lol. Ditto Nashville, the colors we should still have...
 

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good point, that would take a little out of Buffalo's market.

while the NHL hates small market teams, this would be kinda dumb for them to OK...Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo...the the cities can see each other. lol
 

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Good Point, However neither Toronto nor Hamilton are small market teams.. the City of Hamilton itself is 495,000 thats almost double Buffalo.. Hamilton Metro is listed at 712,000 but everyone knows it is limited due to Metro Toronto being 6 million strong and running directly in to Hamilton's Metro. Hamilton does also not include the nearby cities of Branftord (150K) nor does it include Cambridge (110k) Although not the case in commuting patterns for a NHL franchise those would be much different and I think it is safe to say that Hamilton could have the potential to draw from nearly 2+ Million people if you didnt even think of Toronto or anywhere south of Grimsby.

Within 30 minutes drive from downtown Hamilton you have..

Hamilton (712,000)
Grimsby (20,000)
Brantford (150,000)
Oakville (155,000)
Tri-Cities (495,000) - Cambridge, Kitchener, Waterloo
Milton (120,000)
Mississauga (745,000)

Plus there are a lot of other areas around that i cant think of that are un-named communities (like Wheatfield in NY etc) Not to mention we are forgetting about the 400k in the St Cats area (and this could be a potential market with the new passport law coming in to effect)
 

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Ahh yes, the "War on Tourism". That'll work wonders for the Sabres, let alone Niagara Falls (both sides).
 
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