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Jumping the gun a bit here, but after searching the web for any credible articles and knowing how ruthless Peel are and how they normally get what they want, I have decided to put my head on the chopping block and predict Granada will move to Mediacity/Salford Quays.

I was going to post this article last week but the website was down. Interesting reading. (article below pictures and render)

PS. B4mmy. If Granada don't move please delete this thread. Thanks.

Probable Granada site next to the IWMN and opposite Mediacity.



Imagine that shot now. Can't wait until Webbaviation take the 2008 pictures.



An old render of what Mediacity could look like with Granada adjacent to it. Sure there's a better render somewhere.(of course Granada won't look like that :nuts:)



Granada TV move to Salford “is happening”

Friday, 23 November 2007

How-Do understands that the decision to relocate Granada TV to Salford Quays has essentially been decided.

Contrary to reports elsewhere, we understand the chosen location is indeed adjacent to the Imperial War Museum as forecast by How-Do and in contrast to reports that GTV would sit alongside the Beeb at mediacity:uk.

When contacted by How-Do, Granada’s controller of regional affairs, Jane Luca, was adamant that “absolutely no decision had been taken at all.”

However, How-Do understands that the decision has in fact been taken but the key communication issue for Granada is that although it will be physically separated from the Beeb by water, the plan is to use the production base being developed by Peel and use the proposed new Granada building for all non production requirements. This could result in some fundamental staffing/production issues.

The Granada site adjacent ot the IWMN and BBC Mediacity. (2 pictures)

The offices and production facilities at mediacity:uk will be owned by Peel Holdings through a subsidiary and leased to the BBC and other production companies.

The future of the Coronation Street set at Quay Street has not yet been clarified.

Separately, Granada was expected to announce the winner of the contest to develop its Quay Street site before Christmas. The competition to develop the 30 acre site is down to three developers. ITV told How-Do in June that it would like “all the legals completed by the end of the year” but this appears unlikely now.

Allied London, one of the preferred bidders, plans to put up 1m sq ft of new commercial space and 1m sq ft of new housing. It had earmarked 500,000 sq ft of new office and production space for the 1,000 plus GTV staff.
 

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...How-Do understands that the decision has in fact been taken but the key communication issue for Granada is that although it will be physically separated from the Beeb by water, the plan is to use the production base being developed by Peel and use the proposed new Granada building for all non production requirements. This could result in some fundamental staffing/production issues.
With all the news flying about at the moment about BBC & ITV regional sharing resources, this move to Mediacity surely must be a go-er, just the formality of announcing it???

They are most probably waiting for the tie-in plans to be finalised before going any further...

From The Guardian:

BBC deal could secure ITV local news until 2016
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media
Tuesday 13 January 2009

ITV executives believe a deal to share resources with the BBC would guarantee the commercial broadcaster's regional news services until at least 2016.

The proposed deal would see ITV and BBC regional news services produce separate programmes but share buildings and even news footage.

"The amount we'll be spending in 2009 on regional news will still be more than can be sustained by the value of the [public service broadcasting] licences in the medium to long term," said Michael Jermey, the ITV director of news, current affairs and sport, in an email sent to staff today.

"We now think the best way forward may be to make necessary medium-term savings through sharing many technical resources and basic infrastructure with the BBC," Jermey said.

"ITV and the BBC would still make distinctive regional news programmes with their own editorial agendas, their own completely independent editorial programme-making teams and their own distinct voice.

"[It] would do so within a framework that shared technology, in many places shared buildings and facilities, and in which some core news picture provision was freely available to both organisations."

Jermey said today that assuming Ofcom's forthcoming final report on the future of public service broadcasting allowed ITV to cut back its regional news services, the network could roll out a new regional news structure in February that lasted until 2012.

Jermey said the ITV proposal before Ofcom, which would see the number of regional news bulletins dropped in favour of a national news focus, was only economically viable until 2012 and that ITV needed an "imaginative solution" to continue to make its regional news services available in the long term.

He said that a link-up with the BBC, as under BBC director general Mark Thompson's "partnership proposals" that would see the two broadcasters sharing resources including buildings and news footage, could secure ITV regional news services until 2016.

Jermey's comments chime with ITV executive chairman Michael Grade's opinion piece in the Daily Telegraph today.

Grade said that an agreement with the BBC represented a "simple deal which will allow ITV to sustain its regional news services until at least 2016 ... in return for the removal of the remaining residue of legacy regulation. We hope to announce an outline agreement shortly".

Grade is heavily lobbying for the removal of a swathe of regulations - including abolishing programming production quotas and abolishing public service broadcasting licence payments - which ITV says costs it hundreds of millions of pounds.

Jermey said that the aim would be to sustain regional news on ITV1 in the English regions, Wales and the Scottish borders "for the long term".

"We would be making a firm commitment to at least 2016," he said. "The BBC's charter runs to that date."

He added that the talks still required "many hours" of work, describing the progress as at a "very early stage" – terms less firm than Grade.

"Furthermore, this sort of change will be subject to appropriate regulatory and political scrutiny," he cautioned.

While the BBC tie-up has been championed by Thompson, in an attempt to scupper other options such as top-slicing the licence fee, some within the corporation have expressed reservations.

Last month David Holdsworth, the controller of BBC English Regions, admitted that the previously unthinkable prospect of BBC and ITV journalists effectively working together meant a "real change in culture" in the traditional story-chasing regional broadcast news environment.

"If you've spent an entire career trying to beat ITV to a story there is a lot to take in here, and if this happens it will be a real change in culture for us," he said in an email to staff.

Late last year ITV announced that it was cutting 430 staff from its regional news operation to save an estimated £40m per year.
 

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frrom How Do.

Sky looks at regional news

Friday, 06 February 2009

Sky News chiefs have admitted they are looking into building regional websites.

Thus far the company’s kept relatively quiet as the terrestrial channels battle it out on the public service broadcasting front, but now they’ve admitted that they have even looked into supplying regional television news.


Corporate affairs director, Graham McWilliam revealed at the Lords Communications Committee that online, rather than television would be the best way to deliver local stories.

His comments echo those of communications minister, Lord Carter, who recently said that broadband news delivery was the future.
However, it is likely to cause more concern among local papers, after the BBC Trust pulled plans to launch hyper-local sites amid fears of dominating the market.

"It’s an opportunity we will continue to look at ourselves, but I suspect we won’t do it on television, we will look to do it online if we can make a business plan that adds up," McWilliam told the committee.

The long term future of ITV regional news is still up in the air, with a number of proposals on the table, including sharing resources with the BBC and allowing another company to supply news content.

Whether competition authorities would allow Sky to be involved in the latter proposal is uncertain. Five and a number of independent radio stations ditched ITN as their preferred news supplier and now use Sky.
 

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Coronation Street set to move to Media City

Article in today's Observer: Demolition firm to take axe to Coronation Street

Britain's most famous street is to be demolished. Coronation Street's outdoor set, including the Rovers Return Inn, will move from Quay Street in Manchester city centre to a site near Manchester United's Old Trafford stadium after ITV resumed talks to relocate its offices.

Following the appointment of new ITV chairman Archie Norman, negotiations have begun again to relocate the soap's famous pub and cobbled streets to the £600m Media City UK in Salford Quays.


The existing site has been the setting for some of the most memorable scenes in television history, including numerous arguments between Ena Sharples and Elsie Tanner. With the advent of high-definition television, producers are keen to update the set as the new technology makes it easier to spot worn-out sets.

Tracey Barlow, the fictional daughter of the soap's most enduring resident, Ken Barlow, murdered her boyfriend Charlie Stubbs on the street. It was also the location for numerous cat-fights, many of them involving Bet Lynch, the former landlady at the Rover and the street's most famous pint-puller.


Bryan Gray, the chairman of the site's developers, Peel Media, said: "ITV have a particular requirement in Coronation Street. I can confirm that e've offered them a package."

ITV's veteran soap will celebrate its 50th anniversary this year.
 

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So is the new set going to be outdoor like the present one, or is it all going to be done indoor on greenscreen or something ??
 

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Yes, the outdoor set would be rebuilt exactly as it is now. Although they might make a few 'modernising' additions (eg. a block of apartments, a bar, etc.) to make it look a bit more realistic and to expand the set.

I hope if ITV do move to Media City, they'll open a new Granada Studios Tour again!
 

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Which firm is demolishing it? errrrrrr NONE because they are still in talks. This story has been writen by an idiot. It should be titled "ITV talks to move to media city back on" If they do move to Media City it won't be because "sets look worn out" what a load of crap. The outdoor sets will most likey be taken down and rebuilt not just ripped down. This looks llike something you would read in the Sun or Mirror.
 

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Well I was watching corry last night and that Barlow person (forgot his name - the guy who's going out with Lean and used to be an alcoholic ?) had plans for a bar to be built, and the council accepted it, so i'm assuming that the bar will be part of the new set :)

When is it going to be moving and will Coronation Street stop airing shows for a few months while they build the new set or will they build the new set and then *swiftly* move to it once it's finished, as if no one noticed ?

And yes they should, I never got to go on one of the studio tours, I wonder why they stopped them ??
 

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I have heard that the move involves the storyline. Emily joins Al Qaeida and plants a bomb in the Rovers blowing the whole ghastly rubbish up for good.
 

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They have in soap production generally about 4 months worth of episodes already in the can, they could use that as slack and then build it up again.
 

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Which firm is demolishing it? errrrrrr NONE because they are still in talks. This story has been writen by an idiot. It should be titled "ITV talks to move to media city back on" If they do move to Media City it won't be because "sets look worn out" what a load of crap. The outdoor sets will most likey be taken down and rebuilt not just ripped down. This looks llike something you would read in the Sun or Mirror.
Possibly, but it's still good news that they're actually moving forward. A few months ago all talks seemed to be off.

The Guardian / Observer has a well respected Media division, so I'd hope they wouldn't just publish this story if they didn't think it was true.
 

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How Do or Crains will pick up on this over the coming days. Either of them will probably get to the bottom of this story, if it's true? BTW, there is a Granada thread floating about somewhere.

Perhaps Peel's reluctance to financially commit to the original Granada move to Mediacity has softened? A glut of empty studio and office space at Mediacity may have forced their hand.

Who knows?
 

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Which firm is demolishing it? errrrrrr NONE because they are still in talks. This story has been writen by an idiot. It should be titled "ITV talks to move to media city back on" If they do move to Media City it won't be because "sets look worn out" what a load of crap. The outdoor sets will most likey be taken down and rebuilt not just ripped down. This looks llike something you would read in the Sun or Mirror.
The fact remains that the current set is not suitable for HD filming - have you been on it yourself? It is pretty poor quality.
 

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When is it going to be moving and will Coronation Street stop airing shows for a few months while they build the new set or will they build the new set and then *swiftly* move to it once it's finished, as if no one noticed ?

And yes they should, I never got to go on one of the studio tours, I wonder why they stopped them ??
I would imagine they will build any new set first so filming could continue at the present site in the meantime. Makes sense.
 

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Demolition firm to take axe to Coronation Street

Britain's most famous street to relocate to Salford Quays after ITV resumes development talks.

Tara Conlan
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 10 January 2010 16.29 GMT

Britain's most famous street is to be demolished. Coronation Street's outdoor set, including the Rovers Return Inn, will move from Quay Street in Manchester city centre to a site near Manchester United's Old Trafford stadium after ITV resumed talks to relocate its offices.

Following the appointment of new ITV chairman Archie Norman, negotiations have begun again to relocate the soap's famous pub and cobbled streets to the £600m Media City UK in Salford Quays.

The existing site has been the setting for some of the most memorable scenes in television history, including numerous arguments between Ena Sharples and Elsie Tanner. With the advent of high-definition television, producers are keen to update the set as the new technology makes it easier to spot worn-out sets.

Tracey Barlow, the fictional daughter of the soap's most enduring resident, Ken Barlow, murdered her boyfriend Charlie Stubbs on the street. It was also the location for numerous cat-fights, many of them involving Bet Lynch, the former landlady at the Rover and the street's most famous pint-puller.

Bryan Gray, the chairman of the site's developers, Peel Media, said: "ITV have a particular requirement in Coronation Street. I can confirm that e've offered them a package."

ITV's veteran soap will celebrate its 50th anniversary this year.
 

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Looks like you're second for retail news, we knew yesterday, see the Corrie thread!
 

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I suppose it all depends on what is more costly, to rebuild the entire set which would seem painstaking work, but allow for filming to carry on without disruption - or to try and move the sets and balance filming around it.
 

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From the MEN:

Street move to Media City is back on
Dean Kirby

January 11, 2010

RESIDENTS of TV’s most famous road could be on the move after talks to relocate the Coronation Street set to Salford Quays resumed.

It is understood negotiations are under way to relocate the set to the £600m Media City, which is currently being built.

News of the talks, nine months after the collapse of earlier discussions, follows the appointment in November of new ITV chairman Archie Norman. Bryan Gray, chairman of Media City’s developers Peel Media, confirmed discussions were taking place.

He said: “ITV have a particular requirement in Coronation Street. I can confirm that I’ve offered them a package.”

The M.E.N. told last March how plans to move the soap to Salford Quays had been scrapped after talks broke down when incentives on offer to ITV to go to Media City were slashed.

ITV chief operating officer John Cresswell said at the time: “Negotiations between ourselves and the Media City developers, the Peel Group, have broken down.

“The Peel Group has dramatically scaled back its financial commitment to the ITV element of the project and, as a result, we will be remaining at Quay Street for the foreseeable future.”

The existing site has been the setting for some of the most memorable scenes in television history.

It is believed that, with the advent of high-definition television, producers are keen to update The Street as new technology makes it easier to spot worn-out sets.

The show, first broadcast on December 9, 1960, is the longest running soap in British TV history and celebrates its 50th anniversary this year.

Ken Barlow, played by Bill Roache, is the only character who has remained in Coronation Street since the first episode.

The set has undergone a series of transformations over the years. The ‘outdoor’ scenes were filmed on a sound stage until 1968, when Granada built an outside set made of wood.

The wooden facades were replaced with brickwork and the back yards added in the 1970s.

A full-length street, built from reclaimed Salford brick in 1982, underwent further updates in 1989 and 1999. An apartment building called Victoria Court was added two years ago.
 
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