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Ladies and Gents.


I would have love to see the Rail modernized instead of the Avenue Poids Lourds.

Rail takes more people and faster, and cheaper.
 

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Ladies and Gents.


I would have love to see the Rail modernized instead of the Avenue Poids Lourds.

Rail takes more people and faster, and cheaper.
I agree, I think if we can use the real potential of Inga we can use tramway, less pollution cause using electricity.

 

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Ladies and Gents.


I would have love to see the Rail modernized instead of the Avenue Poids Lourds.

Rail takes more people and faster, and cheaper.
I agree, I think if we can use the real potential of Inga we can use tramway, less pollution cause using electricity.

 

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I agree, I think if we can use the real potential of Inga we can use tramway, less pollution cause using electricity.
Yes Trammways will be beautiful and efficient. But we don't need Inga to have this . Kinshasa's problem is lack of Transformers . Zongo Dam is there and they can built Zongo 2 (Some Chinese had proposed to build Zongo II, but you know how it it is) or expand the existing with just $250 million.

A good thing Kinshasa already has the Rail, from N'djili Airport to Gombe (CBD) and from Gombe to Kitambo ( all the way in the west of Kin). then they can add a line from Kitambo to UNIKIN then back to N'Djili again. and the rest use the long buses. Transportation solved.
 

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I feel bad for Inga , to have such a potential and to never use it :bash:
 

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I feel bad for Inga , to have such a potential and to never use it :bash:
I know. with 1,700 MW that Inga1 and 2 supposed to produce, only 750 MW is produced.
Inga 3 can produce 4,500 MW, but they would rather fill their pockets and big bellies than providing power to the people. Everything is there to make this happen.
But everything is a joke in this country.

I'm tired of talking about these moronic leaders.


With Kinshasa already having the existing rail. it would only cost like $60 million to rehabilitate the existing rail tracks and then spend something like $100 million more for the trams and buses and problem fixed. $150 million in total and Kinshasa is back to life.
 

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I know. with 1,700 MW that Inga1 and 2 supposed to produce, only 750 MW is produced.
Inga 3 can produce 4,500 MW, but they would rather fill their pockets and big bellies than providing power to the people. Everything is there to make this happen.
But everything is a joke in this country.

I'm tired of talking about these moronic leaders.


With Kinshasa already having the existing rail. it would only cost like $60 million to rehabilitate the existing rail tracks and then spend something like $100 million more for the trams and buses and problem fixed. $150 million in total and Kinshasa is back to life.
The Government will inject 270 millions $ in SNCC , I would like to understand what is behind those figures
 

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The Government will inject 270 millions $ in SNCC , I would like to understand what is behind those figures
Thats chicken money. It will take almost $1 billion to rehabilitate the existing 3,700 km of rail, plus another $300 to connect Ilebo to Kin and the Kindu to Kisangani, that would be almost $500 million .

Then take account into buying more train engines . This country requires at least $5 billion in rail. I don't think that much money. pay it with the damn minerals or oil .

Besides, it could even be cheaper if we invested in Steel and Iron industry (Mining up in Tanganyika district and Oriental province) , that will provide Rail all over this country.

a 5 years program , that very doable .

As for highways. we can invest just $1.5 billion in just 2-4 years and start producing at least 10 million tonnes of Cement/year. problems solved.
 

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As part of mining concessions, the government could enter into a partnership with mining companies to help finance the reconstruction and expansion of the railroads as they will probably be using it the most.
 

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As part of mining concessions, the government could enter into a partnership with mining companies to help finance the reconstruction and expansion of the railroads as they will probably be using it the most.
I read an article last month , that TFM ( the largest mining company and project in the country) that it might help invest in rail to export through Matadi (to make it investment more profitable by avoiding to pay transit fees and port usage in other countries ).

Anywho, Kinshasa already has an existing Railine. (perfect one too.).

From the Airport through the the most populated areas of Kinshasa to CBD. And from CBD to Western posh Suburbs. Not just that. But there also the 4 major Boulevards going North and south that are undergoing modernization as we speak.

Strategically easy to provide a very efficient Public Transit system.
 

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13 new carriages at Kinshasa train station

Ex-Onatra: 13 nouvelles voitures du train interurbain à Kinshasa

Kinshasa, 7.02.2011

13 nouvelles voitures de l’Onatra pour le train urbain à Kinshasa, 07/02/2011.

13 nouvelles voitures de l’Onatra pour le train urbain à Kinshasa, 07/02/2011.

La Société commerciale des transports et des ports, ex-Onatra (Office

national des transports) a réceptionné lundi 7 février à Kinshasa 13 nouvelles

voitures passagers pour renforcer son transport interurbain. Cette acquisition

est le fruit du partenariat entre le gouvernement congolais et la Coopération

technique belge.Ces 13 voitures sont peintes en couleur du drapeau national:

rouge, jaune et bleu.

Elles viennent de la Tchécoslovaquie et ont une capacité de 200 places assises chacune.

Elles desserviront deux lignes: Gare centrale-aéroport de N’djili et Gare centrale-Kasangulu.

Selon Serge Basawula, administrateur délégué général de la SCTP, cette acquisition va permettre d’améliorer la mobilité des Kinois.

Et pour assurer un service sur une longue période, ces voitures arrivent avec un lot des pièces de rechange, a-t-il souligné.

En plus de cette dotation, l’entreprise a programme de réhabilitation de 9 autres voitures sur fonds propres, a fait savoir le même responsable.

Cette nouvelle acquisition est bien accueillie par la population.

Cependant il se pose un problème, celui de la bonne utilisation par des usagers qui souvent montent sur le toit et n’hésitent pas à le transformer en fumoir de chanvre.

A cette préoccupation, l’ADG Serge Basaula rassure que les dispositions sont prises assurer la sécurité de biens et de personnes.

Copyright Radio Okapi
 

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Thanks for posting. I want to see inside.

Ok, because Kinshasa government (City and State) doesn't knows how to maintain anything they put into service or enforce anything, let alone having any kind of vision.

I remember an article in 2009 about renovating some old trains and buying some outdated ones.

However: What about the line Gombe - Kintambo? what happened to that line? They need to put back that line in business. demolish anyone built on that line. compasate them with plots of land elsewhere.



I was waiting for some ultra modern trams , But outdated mind, outdated life.
 

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As so often, these good for nothing ONATRA officials are putting the cart before the horse. Why order new train carriages before upgrading the entire urban railway system? Stations, railway signals, railtracks and the rest of the equipment are outdated and extremely dangerous. If they put these carriages into service under current conditions, it will not take long before we start witnessing some spectacular derailments with hundreds of casualties.

Furthermore, it does not make sense to upgrade “Place de la gare” with posh buildings and leave the rotten station building standing; it has to be pulled down and a new station must be constructed in order to complete the modernization of this key part of the city. The implementation of a half-baked modernization programme is the wrong way to attract investors.
 

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As so often, these good for nothing ONATRA officials are putting the cart before the horse. Why order new train carriages before upgrading the entire urban railway system? Stations, railway signals, railtracks and the rest of the equipment are outdated and extremely dangerous. If they put these carriages into service under current conditions, it will not take long before we start witnessing some spectacular derailments with hundreds of casualties.

Furthermore, it does not make sense to upgrade “Place de la gare” with posh buildings and leave the rotten station building standing; it has to be pulled down and a new station must be constructed in order to complete the modernization of this key part of the city. The implementation of a half-baked modernization programme is the wrong way to attract investors.
+100. Nothing to add.
 

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As so often, these good for nothing ONATRA officials are putting the cart before the horse. Why order new train carriages before upgrading the entire urban railway system? Stations, railway signals, railtracks and the rest of the equipment are outdated and extremely dangerous. If they put these carriages into service under current conditions, it will not take long before we start witnessing some spectacular derailments with hundreds of casualties.

Furthermore, it does not make sense to upgrade “Place de la gare” with posh buildings and leave the rotten station building standing; it has to be pulled down and a new station must be constructed in order to complete the modernization of this key part of the city. The implementation of a half-baked modernization programme is the wrong way to attract investors.
Agree. Knowing how people are ill educate, in addition of the maintenance problem and mismanagement we have, one has to wonder how long this will last before they break. The case of the buses of STUC is a perfect example. I would have preferred this to be put for the Kinshasa-Matadi line, unfortunately that is not the case. Good luck to my Kinois people.
 

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Thanks for posting. I want to see inside.

Ok, because Kinshasa government (City and State) doesn't knows how to maintain anything they put into service or enforce anything, let alone having any kind of vision.

I remember an article in 2009 about renovating some old trains and buying some outdated ones.

However: What about the line Gombe - Kintambo? what happened to that line? They need to put back that line in business. demolish anyone built on that line. compasate them with plots of land elsewhere.



I was waiting for some ultra modern trams , But outdated mind, outdated life.

A small glimpse of the inside.

 

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^^ that's a lovely train. One step at a time and more will be achieved.
 
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