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May 28, 2008


Kylie Minogue turns 40 today. And at the risk of not sounding much like a straight man on the wrong side of 40, can I just say three words? Oh. My. God.

Certain things, like milk and Bindi Irwin, seem difficult to imagine after a certain date. And while Kylie looks like the most fabulous 40-year-old in the southern hemisphere (oh dear, there I go again), the big four-oh is traditionally a time for taking stock of what has happened so far, assessing how one got to that point, and deciding where to go from there.

Kylie - we don't need the surname any more, so let's not bother using it - is like Vegemite. You may love it, you may hate it, but it has undoubtedly become an Australian icon, something you can't avoid. And despite the fact that she has homes in Britain and Paris, and her accent has transformed into that weird quasi-English/European melange favoured by people such as Elle Macpherson, there is something definably Australian about her which she will never lose, even if she was never to set a dainty foot on our soil ever again. At heart, Kylie is a dag.

Despite the model boyfriends and the designer threads and the jetsetting lifestyle and the oh-so-unwrinkled face, she still has that sense of self-deprecation and ability to laugh at herself which someone like Madonna never had and never will have. From knowingly reciting the lyrics to I Should Be So Lucky at the Poetry Olympics at London's Albert Hall in 1996, to appearing on Kath & Kim as future bridezilla Epponee-Rae, she is what Australians of a certain age would refer to as both "a good sort" and "a good sport".

Even the way she revealed the biggest thing to have an impact on her life thus far - her breast cancer diagnosis in 2005 - was not done in a star-like manner. No rumours, no denials, no PR obfuscation, no "my cancer hell" exclusive auctioned off to the highest bidder. Instead, she simply made a statement telling us what was up, and then got on with dealing with it. The response was so huge and warm that it was like she was a member of the family.

And in a way, she was. The National Breast and Ovarian Cancer Centre said it had never experienced so much interest as in the week following the announcement. In Britain, The Sun devoted its first seven pages to the story and abandoned the page three girl for the day. John Howard was moved to say "it does send a shiver through you" when he was told of the news, and just in case you have already forgotten our former prime minister, he was not a man known for public displays of empathy towards pop stars.

Her sainthood was not always so assured. In the late '80s, Kylie was laughably uncool. She was in Neighbours, and back then it wasn't retro or geeky/cool to say you watched Neighbours. I Should Be So Lucky was huge but, as Anthony Dennis reported in 1988 in the Herald, where he coined the nickname the "Singing Budgie", three Sydney radio stations refused to play it after market research revealed that their 25- to 40-year-old demographic found the song intensely annoying.

Kylie is the girl who could have it all, but doesn't. Yes, she's worth a lot of money - at last count, $83 million. But there are the critics, who don't take her seriously. There is her self-confessed failure to crack the United States market. And there's the man thing. Perhaps only Jennifer Aniston has been the subject of more hand-wringing by the tabloids and glossies over their "concern" for her failure to find lasting love and then reproduce.

And on Kylie's 40th birthday that kind of speculation can only intensify. In a telling sign of how much she has become part of the national consciousness, after breaking up with the French actor Olivier Martinez last year, she quickly became "our Kylie" and he became "the love rat".

People love Kylie because of her personal and professional problems, not despite them. Her extraordinary ordinariness is often pointed out, and those big white teeth and that she stands only 152 centimetres in her stockings only adds to the hugability factor.

A byproduct of this is a desire to be overprotective of her, with even the media treating this grown woman like a little sister. Five years ago I wrote a Heckler for this very paper responding to gushing reportage of her 2003 tour. "Even in stilettos, Minogue moved steadily," one of the more slavish commentators salivated. "She wears high heels! She can walk! It's a miracle! Someone get the Vatican on the phone!" I responded. But at the same time I admitted defending Kylie in the past against naysayers who were TCFK (Too Cool For Kylie), particularly around the time Shocked, What Do I Have To Do?, Better The Devil You Know and Step Back In Time were all lifted from her 1990 album Rhythm Of Love, and she transformed herself both musically and image-wise from a squeaky girl-next-door tween queen to a purveyor of seriously catchy dance-pop.

By this time she was going out with Michael Hutchence, who famously said that his favourite hobby was "corrupting Kylie", but her new-found sexiness and sassiness were too knowing to come from a man. She knew exactly what she was doing, and chose to break out of the cheesy house style that characterised the late-'80s Stock Aitken Waterman hit factory from whence she came. There were more speed bumps to come - most obviously 1997's Impossible Princess album, whose commercial failure was even more galling because it was her most personal statement - but somehow she reinvented herself and become popular again. Can't Get You Out Of My Head proved to be a prophetic title, as it went to No.1 in 20 countries, making it unavoidable no matter where you happened to be in 2001.

Something else that is unavoidable is Kylie's bum. Some say that Kylie is no more than a bottom. A very attractive and pert bottom, but still, a bottom. She can't exactly say she had nothing to do with this. When she displayed said body part to great effect in a pair of gold hot pants in the video for Spinning Around in 2000, her gluteus maximus became as iconic as Michael Jackson's single white glove in 1984, or Janet Jackson's right breast at the 2004 Super Bowl. A journalist at one English tabloid went to the opening night of her British tour and counted the number of bum wiggles she did on stage. It came to 251; he was able to discern two distinct types of wiggle, and it brought new meaning to the term "shake your moneymaker".

One of four mannequins of her that have graced Madame Tussaud's in London featured her on all fours in those pants, just like in the video. The pants featured prominently in the Melbourne Arts Centre's Kylie: The Exhibition, which ended up touring four Australian cities in 2005 and was seen by half a million people.

It is telling that the bulk of the exhibition was made up of costumes, from Charlene's overalls to the designer outfits Kylie has worn on stage. Unlike that old '60s saying - it's all about the music, man - with Kylie it is not all about the music at all, man. This empress is almost all clothes. And an underwear range, Love Kylie. And a fragrance, Darling. And a children's book, The Showgirl Princess. Kylie is a brand, and she knows it. But unlike, say, Victoria Beckham, she seems to have blood flowing through her veins, so her commerciality is seen as less crass. A Kylie-scented drawer liner, although ridiculous when you think about it for longer than three seconds, somehow seems not as tacky as DVB By Victoria Beckham Signature Logo Capri Jeans, whose name alone tends to elicit a gag response and a request for a bucket.

There's a reason Kylie is thought of more fondly than her sister, Dannii. Despite the fact that she reportedly is driven and a workaholic, she doesn't have the appearance of someone trying too hard to be liked. Sure, she's pushing her stuff and working that butt to get across. But she doesn't give off that whiff of desperation for 15 minutes of fame, or, as in the case of the "stars" in this current plague of TV dancing/singing/talent shows, a desire to regain another few minutes after the allotted 15 minutes expired a while ago.

As a result, no matter how daggy or glitzy she is at any point in time, Kylie will still be embraced by the general public when she's 60. Maybe more so. We've already got a prime minister called Kevin. Doesn't President Kylie have a nice ring to it? We should be so lucky.

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/27/1211654028047.html
 

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voice modulation technology? Well Farrk if she sounds like that WITH modification, I shudder to think what she sounds like without it...

hehe all jokes aside (including that cat-being-raped voice), she's had some great songs
 

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I think she's got a good, distinctive voice. I agree, she's not the greatest singer in the world - but if it was just a case of "voice modulation technology" then anyone could use that and become a pop star and earn millions each year! :yes:
 

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I think she's got a good, distinctive voice. I agree, she's not the greatest singer in the world - but if it was just a case of "voice modulation technology" then anyone could use that and become a pop star and earn millions each year! :yes:
anyone practically can, you just got to be in the right place at the right time and have the right look. most mainstream performers in the charts are using it these days. its so easy to tell, it sounds so fake.

she didnt write or arrange any of her songs (well none that were hits), her image is a total Madonna knock-off, she cant sing, she doesnt play any instruments, i doubt she can even read music... fraud fraud fraud

but anyhow good luck to her.
 

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:nono: She has actually written or co-written a lot of her songs, including some of her biggest hits!
 

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Not so much a big fan, but I can appreciate her ability to constantly reinvent herself and have an eye for music trends, and set them. That is very rare. Madonna is one of few people I can think of that does that.
 

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Shes good at what she does - shes a pop song cover singer. She doesn't set trends they are set for her.

But the personaility and the ability to pull this off after so long is very rare and deserves appreciation.

And shes hardly an Aussie anymore. She lives in London and has done for ages now.
 

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It's a pity some people can't appreciate a person's achievements and give credit where credit is due...or is that referring to 'tall poppy syndrome'..anyway..HAPPY 40TH.
 

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So why do lots of our celebrities leave us as soon as they get a hint of fame in the UK? Im cool with them going there to ride a crest of dizzying wave or earning bigger bucks or even just to get the overseas trip out of their system. What I find hard to fathom is at the same time lose the accent almost immediately?

Like Rolf Harris and Clive James have lived in the UK since the 60's but do they sound any different to the day they left our shores? Even jason Donovan still had the good grace to continue to speak properly (god knows where he lives now but?).

How many people who have been forgotten about here are stars in the Uk doing the weather report on breakfast tv or bit parts in godawful pantomimes just because they were on Neighbours or H+A. I remember seeing people on the local telly there going--- "oh yeah I remeber him", and "jeez is that what shes doing now".

For the record, good on Kylie. Dont rate her one little bit in the music or the totty stakes. Its like she never matured after her 10th birthday. She bloody successful in most of Europe and has kept her fortune- thats good enough to be impressed by.
 

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:nono: She has actually written or co-written a lot of her songs, including some of her biggest hits!
co-written? ha! :lol:

It's a pity some people can't appreciate a person's achievements and give credit where credit is due...or is that referring to 'tall poppy syndrome'..anyway..HAPPY 40TH.
nope, in this case its calling a spade a spade.

Ms Minogue has been able to use the 'tall poppy syndrome' as a cloke to hide behind for years. Every time she's criticized its always, "oooh tall poppy syndrome." gimme a break. She doesnt suffer from this syndrome, she revels in it.
 

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So why do lots of our celebrities leave us as soon as they get a hint of fame in the UK?
Dunno about Rolf Harris etc., but for a pop star the UK is the place to be. And they have Europe - 700 million people or so - on the doorstep. Kylie's very popular in Europe and there's no way she could pop over for a promotional tour, concerts etc. if she lived in Australia. She still comes back to Australia quite often though.

co-written? ha! :lol:
Most of the songs you've ever heard are co-written! I guarantee that very few hit songs are written by just one person. Even most songs by legendary rock stars like Elton John, David Bowie etc. are co-written.

Now, submit to the wondrous talent of Kylie and enjoy this recent live performance on Japanese TV:

 

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Who cares about her music! It's shit and she is now plastic fantastic.
 

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shes a classic. im about same age so ive watched her grow from Henderson Kids ,neighbours ect. i think her first single was locomotion? she was cool.
her best acting was in Kath and kim / look at moi,
 

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She is so big in the UK, way more than here. For a while it seemed like she would be on the front page of at least one newspaper every day. She is also much more highly rated as a babe in the UK, I guess they go for her type more.
 
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