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On Kyoto, I am...

  • ...in favour of the plan.

    Votes: 30 63.8%
  • ...against the plan.

    Votes: 12 25.5%
  • ...neither nor against the plan.

    Votes: 5 10.6%
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I am strongly opposed to the Kyoto accord. Kyoto is a feel good political tool to enhance canadians feelings of "moral superiority". Canada right now contributes 2% of the worlds airborn polutants right now if I can remember and reducing our own emmisions will not even dent the global polution levels. Look at it this way, Kyoto is trying to cut a sliver out of an ever expanding pie. This is all not to mention that Kyoto is based off of highly disputed early 1990's climatology research that supported the hockey stick phenominon. I believe that 17000 US scientists signed on in not supporting the basis of kyoto. Another major problem with Kyoto is its implimentation, a majority of canada's contibution to kyoto will be by purchasing polution credits from 2nd world countries like Russia. I don't see why canada should funnel billions of dollars out of this country to "fight polution" when that money would be best spent in canada on research on climatology. I have no problem with cutting polution, the health benifits are enough to sell me. But Canada needs a "made in canada" approach that doesn't penalize our industry; industries that every canadian benifits from. This deal with the conservatives voting against a budget implimentation bill that involved kyoto is true, however if you look at the bill more closely you may understand why the conservatives would strongly opose it, even more than kyoto itself. Basically the liberals want to lump C02 emissions into the enviromental laws. C02 is what plants use, it is what humans produce, to lump this into environmental law would be therefore causing every human being, dog, cat, bird, in canada to be breaking the law.

So I don't have a huge problem with the intents of kyoto, but this treaty is not good for canada, it is not good for business and is definately not good for most of our parents. Lets do a made in canada solution based on sound science and not an international agreement that is heavy in words but light in content and practicality.
 

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mr.x said:
The government has announced that their plan for Kyoto will cost in between $8-10 billion. it includes plans to cut automobile emissions dramatically, fund environmental projects provinces have, and create a west to east-east to west electrical grid system across this country to lessen the demand of those provinces that rely on polluting power plants (coal, natural gas, etc.) and instead supply them with the power from the provinces that have hydroelectricity.
This plan reeks of the National Energy program of the Trudeau liberals. Transfering electical energy across the country would be very expensive and extremely wastefull. The amount of energy loss on these high voltage energy lines is quite high and therefore I feel that this is a retarded plan. If they plan on getting rid of these "evil" coal and natural gas plants with what? For one, hydroelectricity is not on demand energy, nor is wind energy for that matter. We need coal, natural gas and nuclear energy as "running power" since we cannot store large sums of energy economically or efficiently. Hydrogen is automatically out because it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than what you recieve in return in a fuel cell. Plus fuel cells to polute greenhouse gasses that some reason the Liberal government wants to tax. Canada will not be able to meet these kyoto targets without harming the economy, or funneling billions of dollars out of the country in polution credits.

Kyoto is a joke!, lets do a made in canada and create localized programs in our cities because it isn't the rural canadians jobs that should be affected by these socialist ideolistic urban residents that don't even know what is at stake.
 
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