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Had to share this video, Lebanese forumer Lebneni found it... And I just finished watching it and loved it!

It is all in arabic (except for the typical english and french leb talk), so this video is only interesting for those that understand. But watch it anyways, the visuals are great too.

What I love is the stories presented, and how the Lebanese jews that they interviewed were still 100% Lebanese, despite living so far from home for so long. Really sweet video, and very touching!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arabic/worldnews/2010/05/100514_mustafa_jews.shtml
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It looks interesting, I wish somebody could write English subtitles though :)
Had to share this video, Lebanese forumer Lebneni found it... And I just finished watching it and loved it!

It is all in arabic (except for the typical english and french leb talk), so this video is only interesting for those that understand. But watch it anyways, the visuals are great too.

What I love is the stories presented, and how the Lebanese jews that they interviewed were still 100% Lebanese, despite living so far from home for so long. Really sweet video, and very touching!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arabic/worldnews/2010/05/100514_mustafa_jews.shtml
It is pretty funny that prior to the video there was a picture of a Neturei Karta ant-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jew. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of the video.

Don't want to take away the mushy, syrupy fantasies but most people do not leave their homes, the land of their ancestors and places that are dear to them because they want to. Obviously, the people in the video had to. The transplantation (emigration) process for the older generation is not easy but when you are a Jew you cannot think of yourself. Our grandparents/parents were bold and determined. By local standards most Russian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Moldovan or Georgian Jews were relatively well off and yet, they packed up their belongings and moved to Israel or the US.

As you know there are some well known Russian/Eastern European Jewish neighborhoods in America where the Russian Jewish women/men can be easily identified from a mile away. On average they are short, a little hunched looking with deep wrinkles on their faces. The people in the video resemble that kind of a Jew. On the other hand, take a look at the Jewish Americans who were born/raised in the US or the children of Israel. They are tall, proud and secure. Many of them have turned into the sex symbols sought out by the leading fashion fotographers from around the world. They are pilots, models, dolphin trainers, police officers and love parade revelers. There is a strking psysical difference between the new Jews and old Jews. When you live in country that is not yours and you are terrified for your family's future your face reflects the heavy burden.
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It is pretty funny that prior to the video there was a picture of a Neturei Karta ant-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jew. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of the video.

Don't want to take away the mushy, syrupy fantasies but most people do not leave their homes, the land of their ancestors and places that are dear to them because they want to. Obviously, the people in the video had to. The transplantation (emigration) process for the older generation is not easy but when you are a Jew you cannot think of yourself. Our grandparents/parents were bold and determined. By local standards most Russian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Moldovan or Georgian Jews were relatively well off and yet, they packed up their belongings and moved to Israel or the US.

As you know there are some well known Russian/Eastern European Jewish neighborhoods in America where the Russian Jewish women/men can be easily identified from a mile away. On average they are short, a little hunched looking with deep wrinkles on their faces. The people in the video resemble that kind of a Jew. On the other hand, take a look at the Jewish Americans who were born/raised in the US or the children of Israel. They are tall, proud and secure. Many of them have turned into the sex symbols sought out by the leading fashion fotographers from around the world. They are pilots, models, dolphin trainers, police officers and love parade revelers. There is a strking psysical difference between the new Jews and old Jews. When you live in country that is not yours and you are terrified for your family's future your face reflects the heavy burden.
(1) You clearly have never met any Lebanese Jews. So I'd STFU if I were you.

(2) Your entire post about comparing Russian Jews to Israelis/American Jews is totally ridiculous.

BTW- Russel what country are you originally from? Because I noticed that you are not Israeli and English doesn't appear to be your first language if you spell photographer as fotographer.
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Thanks חבר1.0 :)

Koobideh... how would we go about subtitling this.. just write out the script? Maybe I will... when I have some more free time haha.
Thanks חבר1.0 :)

Koobideh... how would we go about subtitling this.. just write out the script? Maybe I will... when I have some more free time haha.
No problem. :)

I can't stand bullshit and lies.
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lol at the "dolphin trainers".
ridiculous comment by the way
חבר1.0;64757947 said:
No problem. :)

I can't stand bullshit and lies.
You can stand it alright when you spew it out.

It is OK to have a thing for whatever, even if in your case it happens to be Lebanese. Regardless, there is a commonality among the emigrant Jewish groups, Russian, Romanian, Lebanese, Syrian, etc. in both Israel and the USA. It is reflected in the faces of the old but not the young and whether you agree with it or not it is irrelevant. The people in the video carry an emotional scar. It is there. You cannot deny it. Just look at them.

PS. Sorry for my typos. :lol:
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You can stand it alright when you spew it out.

It is OK to have a thing for whatever, even if in your case it happens to be Lebanese. Regardless, there is a commonality among the emigrant Jewish groups, Russian, Romanian, Lebanese, Syrian, etc. in both Israel and the USA. It is reflected in the faces of the old but not the young and whether you agree with it or not it is irrelevant. The people in the video carry an emotional scar. It is there. You cannot deny it. Just look at them.

PS. Sorry for my typos. :lol:
I am not disagreeing with what you are saying in this post, but Lebanese Jews are kind of an exception. The ones that I've met have had much warmer feelings towards Lebanon than other Jews who have emmigrated felt towards their birth countries.
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חבר1.0;64765773 said:
I am not disagreeing with what you are saying in this post, but Lebanese Jews are kind of an exception. The ones that I've met have had much warmer feelings towards Lebanon than other Jews who have emmigrated felt towards their birth countries.
It is OK to disagree. I really don't care. Does it even matter that they love the place of their birth? I don't know who you met and therefore I cannot comment on the people you met but I can comment on the people in the video. Take a look at them. They look like the typical stressed and tired Jewish emigrants. It is clear where the stress on their faces came from. It is not possible to hide.
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^^ hey drama, you don't understand arabic, you don't know what they are saying.
you don't understand arabic, you don't know what they are saying.
100% correct.

Therefore, I can only comment about their physical appearance. Take a look at their body language. Did they say in the video that they loved and appreciated Lebanon? Nice! Regardless, they are NOT in Lebanon and that is the bottom line.
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What did you expect. Of course they are not in Lebanon, like 1/3 of the population who left during the war. Only that they had an easy/tempting one way exit.
What did you expect. Of course they are not in Lebanon, like 1/3 of the population who left during the war. Only that they had an easy/tempting one way exit.
Why was it easier for them than other emigrant groups?
It was easier on many levels: ideologically, government facilities(working with Jewish Agencies to facilitate the emigration for those who want to/after 67, Lebanese Jews were free to chose if they would go under the mandatory military service/...) they had those who took care of them on the other side of the border, time to sell their properties.. while other Lebanese had no "alternative country", many people were even killed while waiting for a visa approval, some had to flee their homes on the rush leaving everything behind etc..
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It was easier on many levels: ideologically, government facilities(working with Jewish Agencies to facilitate the emigration for those who want to/after 67, Lebanese Jews were free to chose if they would go under the mandatory military service/...) they had those who took care of them on the other side of the border, time to sell their properties.. while other Lebanese had no "alternative country", many people were even killed while waiting for a visa approval, some had to flee their homes on the rush leaving everything behind etc..
Well, the Jewish culture is based on the premise of "tzedakah" or charitable giving. To Israelis the Jewish immigration to Israel is as vital as the national defense. Therefore, they brought it down to a science. However, there is still plenty of red tape. In general, comparing to others you are probably correct. Considering the Israeli experience in absorbing the immigrants from 120 countries speaking 80 different languages it would be shameful if they did not know what they were doing.
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It is so sad the one woman from the south had to find out her childhood friend died a month ago in Israel... Like that actually sucks, learning something like that from a documentary director.

I really liked the Mexican residents story too.

But Dany's... wow so sad!
Btw Russel.. the sadness that these people are showing correlates with what they said. How they left their homes and their friends, and have never forgot Lebanon. Not because they were forced, but because outside Lebanon they have a better future due to the war that was happening.
Each one interviewed still watched LBC and Future.. that is dedication!
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