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I don't know if anyone of you guys have been reading about Bernie Ecclestone's rhetoric for proposing an F1 circuit in the heart of London (in an attempt to cover up the bribing allegations no doubt), but it got me thinking - if Leeds could have an F1 track, what would it be like? where would it be? The London Grand Prix has kinda of been put to an end before it got started over safety concerns at various high profile sites, and of course the disruption a race week would have on the city.

I've been thinking about possible routes for the circuit, incorporating our most notable buildings and landmarks, using the IRR as a fast-zone and other areas for tight corners. I'm not going to lie, I've struggled to find a suitable track, but I love the idea of it. I think this could really set Leeds internationally if it could be done right.

So, the challenge I put to you guys is this: design a suitable and successful F1 track for Leeds using mapping software like google earth or whatever, and we'll come and show them on this thread.

I'll come up with my own and I look forward to seeing yours and discussing it all.

:) Cheers! :cheers:
 

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Okay so I know this is silly to begin with but hey-ho. It's a boring monday...

So, here's my prospective track:



Track Length: 3.85 Miles
Total Laps: 50
Total Distance: 190 Miles.
Total Major Turns: 17

Oops! Should have put this all in the fantasy thread! :dunno: nevermind.. :)
 

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i like the idea but aside from the IRR i can't see many spots in the city centre where those cars could really get up to full speed for decent lengths.
 

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a nice run up the hill along Woodhouse Lane to the Parkinson Building would echo the Monaco circuit and it's opening hill climb :)
 

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it would cost such an horrendous amount of money and ambition to do something like this but it would be absolutely amazing to see. I doubt the poison dwarf would be interested in the idea but maybe we could develop this into a yearly race for something a little less premium as F1. The Leeds TT could be very exciting!!!
 

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Okay here's my idea. Use the wasteland of Wellington Place as a temporary grandstand, with a nice opening straight of Whitehall Road; a few corners to sort out the men from the boys then the inner ring road for some good car ramming possibilities; then a quick stretch of the Headrow before heading south via the calls to the station, and finally back to the start. I wanted to leave the city centre free for people to do their Sunday shopping.



I can't be bothered to count the corners, but there are some stubborn ones for sure, especially Vicar Lane/Headrow and Sovereign Street/Neville Street.
 

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Not sure. Some sort of race across Yorkshire would be great though. If we're successful with the Tour de France bid, that will be amazing.
 

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Got thinking about a possible route, and liked this_city's idea of going up to Leeds Uni. My original idea had it going all the way out to the M621 at Elland Road, then back into town past BWP, but the track was over 6 Miles long!!

So, I revised the idea with Gherkin's suggestion of have Whitehall Road as a start point, so I made a quick fly through video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0bZG9ivh0&feature=youtu.be

This track is 4.8 miles long. Still a bit longer than your average tracks, but a lot better.



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Out of the 2 circuits so far I prefer Gherkins but only because I'd get free tickets to watch the start of the race and old Bernie would have to ask me permission to block the entrance to my building.

I'm going to work on a circuit sometime soon but with a hefty dose of realism. Ideally we won't want to be cutting off access to the IRR completely but I'm sure we could use one carriageway for F1 and put a contraflow in on the other side to enable traffic to use it in two directions.

As I think about it you never get permission to block off the access to a large city centre for a long period of time. Both the financial and commercial districts of Leeds would be severely compromised with very little in way of return.

If you look at the current street circuits on the F1 calendar there is only Monaco and Singapore that actually use main city streets. Monaco is a unique case as it is Monaco and the city has grown up around F1. Singapore isn't popular with the locals due to the disruption it causes.

Ideally a better location for a GP of Leeds would be in one of the suburbs. Roundhay Park could be ideal especially if the roads and paths around the lake were upgraded and we would get a very similar track to Albert Park in Melbourne or Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve in Canada.

What would you prefer to have in your city? Another dull borefest with limited overtaking due to tight city streets or a purpose built temporary track around parkland which can be designed for F1 cars

The only real draw of a city centre track would be the epic noise you would get from cars passing through the IRR at over 180mph!
 

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Did Birmingham make much money when it hosted rounds of the European F3000 Championship and the British Touring Car Championship among supporting races known as the Superprix through the streets of central Birmingham between 1986 and 1990? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Superprix










Surely money and politics would be the overwhelming factor that would determine whether such a race ever takes place in Leeds. As for where such a race would be hosted I guess a Roundhay Park hosted race could be attractive considering it could make good use of the natural ampitheatre the park has in addition to giving lots of room for grandstands and pits and should provide a mix of fast straights, hairpins and sweeping curves although im guessing it would sadly be too interesting for modern F1 standards and I can't see them NIMBYs in Roundhay (who effectively killed off Roundhay Park as a concert venue) enjoying the prospect of loud engine noise over the course of a weekend.

Surely a city centre GP would be constrained by a lack of room for pits and grandstands in addition to presumably much greater dangers by hosting a grand prix on narrow city centre roads as well as in a highly built up area with the only main advantage being the fact that there is of course many more amenities in the city centre as opposed to out at Roundhay.

On another note does anyone remember when the RAC Rally used to have a stage at Temple Newsam back in the good old days when it went all over the UK as opposed to just Wales? What a shame that event has declined so much compared with years gone by and I remember a demonstration of rally cars such as Subaru Imprezas, Ford Escort Cosworths and the like on the Headrow outside the Town Hall around the mid 1990s. Also did York, Pontefact or Wetherby racecourses ever consider or even actually hosted motorsport in years gone by considering Aintree hosted the British Grand Prix for a number of years? Still there is of course the Hillclimbing track at Harewood being the closest regular motor racing venue to my knowledge to Leeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harewood_speed_Hillclimb
 

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I don't know, but as the regional capitals have grown so much since then, there would be a big economic impact on a city like Leeds from this.

London is strong enough to recover quickly from it, but I'm not sure Leeds would be. There would need to be a system in place making sure people could still get to work. We know at the moment that even a small disruption at Armley Gyratory can bring the whole city to a halt.
 
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