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Over 200 flats to be built on the site of the former BSS Group Headquarters on Fleet Street. This will involve controversial plans to demolish the existing buildings of architectural merit.

Applicant: Lee Contracts

Architects: rg+p

Planning Application: http://rcweb.leicester.gov.uk/planning/onlinequery/Details.aspx?AppNo=20172678




Images from planning application link above.

The site as it is at present:

Image from Google Streetview.
 

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Can't see this going through.

Why can't these developers focus on all the shitty empty buildings in this area. It's almost like they're going out looking for any decent buildings that are still standing.
 

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One of the nicest buildings in the area :eek:hno: if not the only.

Although, to me the most offensive thing about Lee Circle isn't the car park itself, it's that the buildings fronting it are just service yards. So at the very least it's nice to see they want an active frontage here.
 

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cant they just put the old building inside the hole of the new one?
 
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Not a bad plan. Bit of re-shaping of the hole needed (ooer), but it could work. The obvious thing would be to keep the facade and built some utter dross around it. Bit like the Black Boy plan. But your suggestion shows real ambition and foresight...
 

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I think you need to tip it on its side, it might fit better
 
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bin for a waltz around lee circle, bit controversaial but, I really like the car park now. its big.
if theyd listened to my advice years ago about pulling off the concrete pebble dash wall things and replaced them with lighter metal fancing and grew plants that hang down over the outside, then it would turn the are from the least desirable to a bit more desirable overnight, well probably over a year cos builders are slow.
and it would make the carpark lighter, meaning that it wud last a bit longer
 

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bin for a waltz around lee circle, bit controversaial but, I really like the car park now. its big.
if theyd listened to my advice years ago about pulling off the concrete pebble dash wall things and replaced them with lighter metal fancing and grew plants that hang down over the outside, then it would turn the are from the least desirable to a bit more desirable overnight, well probably over a year cos builders are slow.
and it would make the carpark lighter, meaning that it wud last a bit longer
Like many brutalist buildings, if it was smoothed over, always kept clean, and merely painted or re-rendered it could look amazing.

I really don't think the 60s builders expected concrete to look how it does when it gets dirty and water damaged. I do not believe for a second that Birmingham Library, the Southbank, or Lee Circle were designed to look how they now do.

Take for example this building in Georgia:



All it took was a lick of magnolia (Leicester's favourite paint) and it looks amazing now.

I think something similar could be done with Lee Circle.

Replace the metal handrails with something less visible, perhaps a bit of glass. Remove the pebble dash, and re-render in white or magnolia, nice and smooth and spotless, and then keep it clean.

Then spruce up all of the ground floor shop fronts. Sheer glass fronts could work here. Signage could be done like this:

 

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Got a lot of sympathy for Tim on this one. We need to find a way to ensure that the city has a thriving nightlife as well as being attractive for people to live and work there. Pushing out live music venues will be detrimental to the city’s creative culture.

I wonder whether the developer has engaged with DSS and thought about how they can help mitigate the potential problem?
 

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i used to love streetlife when it was a propa gay club
 

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Maybe just hasn't really affected Leicester yet as it's not got a really big noisy nightlife core really close to residential developments en masse, but it's a common thing nationally.

Venue exists. Snazzy new flats built nearby. Residents move into the city centre, where it's meant to be noisy. Complain about noise. Venue gets license reviewed, squeezed, unprofitable, shuts down.

Newcastle only has one superclub left, and lots of venues have had their permissions changed, even entrances moved to other parts of the building etc, to try and satisfy local residents' noise complaints.

Manchester, Leeds etc all similar. And a few big venues in London the same.

Sadly the councils don't accept/adopt the sensible 'who was here first' thing. Shame.
 
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