[Axelferis]

Lille OSC

4x League:
1933, 1946, 1954, 2011

6x Cup:
1946, 1947, 1948, 1953, 1955,
2011



Hi everybody here. i'm new, i'm in france .

This is the trhead of the new Stadium for the Losc (lille olympique sporting club) which played 2 last edition of Uefa champion's league.


After the rejected project of 'Grimonprez jooris 2' due to its location near an old historical Citadelle Vauban , They reflected on a total new project like Schalke04 and Amsterdam arena.

Main characteristics:

- 50186 seats
-Retractable roof
-scheduled to ??
-Not a 5 stars stadium but 7 stars stadium!!!!!!!





Uploaded with ImageShack.us





Uploaded with ImageShack.us





Uploaded with ImageShack.us

reality now :

 

[witn88]

Good news! Do you have pictures of the old project?

I live in Belgium but Lille is 20/30 minutes away from me. Really nice and modern city!

 

[Vilak]

Old project :



and



I'm glad the dome project finally happens but doubt it will be finished by 2010.

 

[lpioe]

Isn't 50k a bit too much for Lille? They average 13'500 this season.

Anyway, can't wait to see the renders. I hope the representative is right and it will be something special. Most of the new stadium designs recently lacked some originality.

 

[Vilak]

Isn't 50k a bit too much for Lille? They average 13'500 this season.

1/We're not England or NFL, no french club can't sell out its stadium even 3 time out of four games.
What we have to understand is that now, a stadium is a TOOL (mot français : outil) for a club.
With a more comfortable stadium, attendances always rise.

Marseille average 49.000 people with a very incomfortable/ugly/windy sadium, how much do you thin they would average with a closed/noisy/comfortable/beautidul stadium? even if it's 60/65.000, it would be worth to expand to 80.500 (ON THE LONG TERM, always think on the long term) !!!!!


2/That a question me and Neda Say argued for a long time.
If Lille see things in long term, like Aulas do with Lyon, it's ok.
This is Neda Say point of view (and I don't say he's wrong, not at all!).

My point of view is that Lille, actually, is all about its manager (Claude Puel) Magic. When he will be gone, Lille, if I'm right, will become an average franch club again and won't need a 5 star retractable roof stadium.

But I said so many stupid things about french clubs that I think I should no longer challenge their possible shinning future and join Neda Say point of view.

Adding to this, I'm 100% behind every club that wants to upgrade its stadium.

 

[Neda Say]

1/We're not England or NFL, no french club can't sell out its stadium even 3 time out of four games.
What we have to understand is that now, a stadium is a TOOL (mot français : outil) for a club.
With a more comfortable stadium, attendances always rise.

Marseille average 49.000 people with a very incomfortable/ugly/windy sadium, how much do you thin they would average with a closed/noisy/comfortable/beautidul stadium? even if it's 60/65.000, it would be worth to expand to 80.500 (ON THE LONG TERM, always think on the long term) !!!!!


2/That a question me and Neda Say argued for a long time.
If Lille see things in long term, like Aulas do with Lyon, it's ok.
This is Neda Say point of view (and I don't say he's wrong, not at all!).

My point of view is that Lille, actually, is all about its manager (Claude Puel) Magic. When he will be gone, Lille, if I'm right, will become an average franch club again and won't need a 5 star retractable roof stadium.

But I said so many stupid things about french clubs that I think I should no longer challenge their possible shinning future and join Neda Say point of view.

Adding to this, I'm 100% behind every club that wants to upgrade its stadium.

Hey Vilak! Thanks for agreeing on joining the darkside!

 

[Vilak]

I'm always ready to reach greener pastures.

Concerning Lille, my problem is that I absolutly don't know the city.
I just know it's a big town.
I only went Lille only once. it was a one trip to see a live concert of Alphaville (Big in Japan, Sounds like a Melody, Forever young, dance with me) in Waregem in 1999.
I'm absolutly in total ignorance of its possibilities.
That's why when the bid for summer olympic games was made, I found it totally irrealistic.
Shame on me

 

[Neda Say]

However they will never get it finished before 2011! 2010 is just unmanageable! Considering that we are mid january and they are only going to show rendering next week! city approval being granted or not in February. Another three month of limbo
to get the building team up and running... I've never seen a stadium getting from the ground up in less than 18 months so forget the the 2010 !!!

I seriously hope that the Claude Puel can keep the team in L1 until it's finished!

 

[Bobby3]

Lille's low attendance is probably a direct reflection of how bad the Metropole stadium is for watching the sport.

 

[Axelferis]

@ Vilak -> Lille is an urban area of more 1 million people.

This city NEEDS this tool because it's very important to be known in this part of europe (Belgium and netherland, England )

The projetc is not too high because in february the match of uefa champion's league was at Lens . They played manchesterunited and the stadium was full! Even in 2005 in saint denis (75000 people this evening)

The question about the coach puel is inexisting. He can go now there will be another man to relace him. Don't forget that Losc played champion's league with Vahid Hallilodzic who took the club in ligue2!!!

This stadium is Important.

 

[Neda Say]

Lille's low attendance is probably a direct reflection of how bad the Metropole stadium is for watching the sport.

Absolutely right!

The city is modern, young not wealthy but does have some big French and European companies. You can't attract them to Stadium Nord. This new stadium might... no will be a huge boost for the club and the city! Building a dome make sense. I hope they get it done!

 

[Axelferis]

According to one of Losc director , the 3 projects presented are Absolutly fantastic!!

No Stadiums in France can compete with this project because they saw ALL arena retractabled stadiums to made lille's stadium.

He said that it could be transform from a 55000 seat to 20000 o 30000 seat dome!!! AMAzING!!

the accent is to be very Multifunctional stadium!

The Bouygues project is rumoured to be winner .

 

[Axelferis]

Bouygues

Why is this bouygues project is the fututre winner?

Just because the city coumminity council has to vote for one of those 3 project and the votes are different because there are socialists,communists,ecologists and UMp voters. In different tems there are different political opinions and the lader of UMp group opposition (Daubresse) worked at... Bouygues as engineer !!

It's not difficult to guess that Lobbying works ever!

 

[antigr12]

bouygues and his network tf1 are known to be doubtful and crappy , intimately linked with all other "famous" lobbys ( **** , jews , science , industrials ...) , and with sarkosy , lagardere . The medias issue is the same as in usa .

 

[Axelferis]

bouygues and his network tf1 are known to be doubtful and crappy , intimately linked with all other "famous" lobbys ( **** , jews , science , industrials ...) , and with sarkosy , lagardere . The medias issue is the same as in usa .

Ouh.. be careful with words man..

 

[Vilak]

bouygues and his network tf1 are known to be doubtful and crappy , intimately linked with all other "famous" lobbys ( **** , jews , science , industrials ...) , and with sarkosy , lagardere . The medias issue is the same as in usa .

hey, you're talking about very controvesials things.
I think stuffs like racism and homophobia don't suit this forum at all.

 

[skaP187]

Pics will be posted next week abd According to one of the representative of the club:

"there are NO equivalent in Europe "

B]Because it will be better than Amsterdam and schalke04[/B]

This is not very diffecult. Ajax is allready thinking of moving out that stadium. It is a desaster. (not MOP, but the opinion of the fans)
Has to be said that redeveloping/ extending the stadium to 75 000 is also an option, but if I read the forums the fans prefer a new stadium. They hate it.

I don´t know how it is in Schalke, but personaly I don´t like that stadium. I much prefer the old stadium ´Auf schalke´ with the rolersteps.

So one advice, do not base the designs on the Amsterdam Arena...

Adding to this, I'm 100% behind every club that wants to upgrade its stadium.

I am with you on this one.

 

[Neda Say]

bouygues and his network tf1 are known to be doubtful and crappy , intimately linked with all other "famous" lobbys ( **** , jews , science , industrials ...) , and with sarkosy , lagardere . The medias issue is the same as in usa .

This kind of speech might get you banned! Please be aware of that!

 

[Axelferis]

i told him hno:

And if Amsterdam ajax want to build another stadiumit would be a stupid!!

It's true that althought it is a nice stadium, Amst.arena seems to be cold.

The reflexion for a stadium has to take account about the spirit of football that must living in such a structure!

Shalke04 arena is better because you feel that the club and fans own this place. It's a true place to play football.

Amsterdam is a place to make shows and concerts!!

They would have think about this before the construction..

 

[Bobby3]

Is Stade Grimonprez Jooris still standing? What's going to be done with it?