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http://www.littlechinaworld.com/waiguroen

中文为第二语言博客
http://blog.sina.com.cn/yinhaijie 殷海洁的BLOG(英国人)
http://www.waze.net/laihua 来华干嘛 (澳大利亚人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/honglaowai2008 红老外 (美国人)
http://uthacalthing.spaces.live.com/ 我的中文闹学记 (意大利人)
http://dannyman.toldme.com/category/chinese/ Dannyman中文 (美国人)
http://www.getpowers.net/xiaoxitian 小西天 (美国人)
http://zh.yjohny.com/ 王渊源的博客 (美国人)
http://make.slipnet.cn/make/ 马克在中国 (美国人)
http://aradosh.spaces.live.com/ 喜爱学中文的美国老外 (美国人)
http://www.getpowers.cn 得到力量中国 (美国人)
http://yangbin.bloggles.info/ 杨斌的博客 (法国人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/zhulian 一个法国人的BLOG (法国人)
http://poagao.org/chinese/ 潑猴的日記
http://kiwiyanggui.spaces.live.com 狂洋人日记 (新西兰人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/kottjn 江喃的BLOG (美国人)
 

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好贴,他们都有中文名字?海外华人还是?
 

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http://www.littlechinaworld.com/waiguroen

中文为第二语言博客
http://blog.sina.com.cn/yinhaijie 殷海洁的BLOG(英国人)
http://www.waze.net/laihua 来华干嘛 (澳大利亚人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/honglaowai2008 红老外 (美国人)
http://uthacalthing.spaces.live.com/ 我的中文闹学记 (意大利人)
http://dannyman.toldme.com/category/chinese/ Dannyman中文 (美国人)
http://www.getpowers.net/xiaoxitian 小西天 (美国人)
http://zh.yjohny.com/ 王渊源的博客 (美国人)
http://make.slipnet.cn/make/ 马克在中国 (美国人)
http://aradosh.spaces.live.com/ 喜爱学中文的美国老外 (美国人)
http://www.getpowers.cn 得到力量中国 (美国人)
http://yangbin.bloggles.info/ 杨斌的博客 (法国人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/zhulian 一个法国人的BLOG (法国人)
http://poagao.org/chinese/ 潑猴的日記
http://kiwiyanggui.spaces.live.com 狂洋人日记 (新西兰人)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/kottjn 江喃的BLOG (美国人)
Is that all?
 

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我想做可是因爲我的看法不符合"官方結論"我怕我會被抓。 :( 如果我年底回中華民國,我可以寫一個網誌。
 

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IMO learning Chinese for foreigners is far more difficult than learning English for our Chinese, and writing intelligent long articles in a decent way is also difficult for foreigners and rarely seen by Chinese as the same time. Anyway, I just wanted to share them with some members.
 

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我想做可是因爲我的看法不符合"官方結論"我怕我會被抓。 :( 如果我年底回中華民國,我可以寫一個網誌。
这里面老外写的有些东西也有不符合官方认识的啊,不过都比较客观,他们不是还好端端的嘛?呵呵。你也是老外嘛? :cheers:
 

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IMO learning Chinese for foreigners is far more difficult than learning English for our Chinese, and writing intelligent long articles in a decent way is also difficult for foreigners and rarely seen by Chinese as the same time. Anyway, I just wanted to share them with some members.
I don't believe that is necessarily true.

I believe it depends on numerous factors:
  • How dedicated a person is learning a foreign language. - English being the world's "unofficial" international language, most people who learn English tend to be very dedicated. Many people believe if they learn English, they will automatically be presented with opportunities that were previous not available to them. The same could be said for learning Chinese today as China's economy booms, but it's still nowhere near the level of learning English. With that said, I've met many foreigners who have mastered the Chinese language but most of them did it simply out of the passion they have for the Chinese language and/or culture, not many did it PURELY for financial reasons.
  • How much learning resources the person has available to them. - Foreign students of the Chinese language is still very few compare to the number of foreign students of the English language. Therefore, there are less learning resources for those who wish to learn Chinese, when compared to those for English. With that said, there is still a good amount of learning resources for Chinese if one knows where to look. But I remember growing up in Taiwan, it felt like every other street corner had a building with a sign that advertised learning English.
  • The environment the person lives in and the language is spoken in that said environment. - Environment is the most important factor in learning a new language. My parents sent me to English classes when I was young in Taiwan and I don't remember anything. But when we moved to the U.S., I became fluent in English within 2-3 years. The same can be said for any “外國人” that I know both here in the U.S. and those in China or Taiwan.

So point is, things are not always so black and white. :)
 

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I don't believe that is necessarily true.

I believe it depends on numerous factors:
  • How dedicated a person is learning a foreign language. - English being the world's "unofficial" international language, most people who learn English tend to be very dedicated. Many people believe if they learn English, they will automatically be presented with opportunities that were previous not available to them. The same could be said for learning Chinese today as China's economy booms, but it's still nowhere near the level of learning English. With that said, I've met many foreigners who have mastered the Chinese language but most of them did it simply out of the passion they have for the Chinese language and/or culture, not many did it PURELY for financial reasons.
  • How much learning resources the person has available to them. - Foreign students of the Chinese language is still very few compare to the number of foreign students of the English language. Therefore, there are less learning resources for those who wish to learn Chinese, when compared to those for English. With that said, there is still a good amount of learning resources for Chinese if one knows where to look. But I remember growing up in Taiwan, it felt like every other street corner had a building with a sign that advertised learning English.
  • The environment the person lives in and the language is spoken in that said environment. - Environment is the most important factor in learning a new language. My parents sent me to English classes when I was young in Taiwan and I don't remember anything. But when we moved to the U.S., I became fluent in English within 2-3 years. The same can be said for any “外國人” that I know both here in the U.S. and those in China or Taiwan.

So point is, things are not always so black and white. :)
You are correct. A lot of Chinese people tell me that Chinese have an easier time learning English than English speakers learning Chinese. While my first language is Spanish, I grew up in the US and was educated form Kindergarten to College in English so I can safely say that I am a native speaker of English. I still don't think that me learning Chinese was as more difficult than a Chinese person learning English. I have studied Chinese for 6 years 3 in the US and 3 in China and Taiwan. The reason that I can speak Chinese well is all thanks to my friends here in China and TW, When I arrived in Taiwan all i could do is hold a basic conversation in Chinese. After living there and attending 師大 for 2 years I was almost fluent. But that is because I spoke Chinese everyday. Over two years of watching TV and taking classes and hanging out with friends I had so many experiences that helped me learn Chinese. Many foreigners in China cant speak Chinese because they work for foreign companies, hangout with foreigners or people who can speak chinese, so they feel that there is no need. But if you really try you can learn. Also many Chinese people (I call 講英文瘋)don't want to speak Chinese they always tell me 我們住在一個International的城市所以我們需要說english, these people (even though I hate them) have helped me have even better Chinese because they have given me motivation to speak Chinese better than their English. So Thank You 講英文瘋 you have improved my Chinese. Now I know that my composition skillz arent as good as a Chinese person, but many people have to work hard for years to have good composition skills in their native language, so I will just have to 加油
 

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Many foreigners in China cant speak Chinese because they work for foreign companies, hangout with foreigners or people who can speak chinese, so they feel that there is no need.
Very good observation. I actually know a few people like that when I stayed in Beijing & Shanghai lol.

Also many Chinese people (I call 講英文瘋)don't want to speak Chinese they always tell me 我們住在一個International的城市所以我們需要說english.
Another good observation lol. Although I was born in Taiwan, I was raised in the U.S. so I speak fluent English, although my Chinese is pretty good too (if I may say so myself ;) ) When I was in China, there were many locals who would insist on speaking to me in English even though I am Chinese! lol

these people (even though I hate them) have helped me have even better Chinese because they have given me motivation to speak Chinese better than their English. So Thank You 講英文瘋 you have improved my Chinese. Now I know that my composition skillz arent as good as a Chinese person, but many people have to work hard for years to have good composition skills in their native language, so I will just have to 加油
I love your attitude lol
 

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I don't believe that is necessarily true.

I believe it depends on numerous factors:
  • How dedicated a person is learning a foreign language. - English being the world's "unofficial" international language, most people who learn English tend to be very dedicated. Many people believe if they learn English, they will automatically be presented with opportunities that were previous not available to them. The same could be said for learning Chinese today as China's economy booms, but it's still nowhere near the level of learning English. With that said, I've met many foreigners who have mastered the Chinese language but most of them did it simply out of the passion they have for the Chinese language and/or culture, not many did it PURELY for financial reasons.
  • How much learning resources the person has available to them. - Foreign students of the Chinese language is still very few compare to the number of foreign students of the English language. Therefore, there are less learning resources for those who wish to learn Chinese, when compared to those for English. With that said, there is still a good amount of learning resources for Chinese if one knows where to look. But I remember growing up in Taiwan, it felt like every other street corner had a building with a sign that advertised learning English.
  • The environment the person lives in and the language is spoken in that said environment. - Environment is the most important factor in learning a new language. My parents sent me to English classes when I was young in Taiwan and I don't remember anything. But when we moved to the U.S., I became fluent in English within 2-3 years. The same can be said for any “外國人” that I know both here in the U.S. and those in China or Taiwan.

So point is, things are not always so black and white. :)
Pangu, Many thanks for your long comment, what you said are quite right, and means a lot to me. Thank again
 

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我想做可是因爲我的看法不符合"官方結論"我怕我會被抓。 :( 如果我年底回中華民國,我可以寫一個網誌。
也别如果。你赶快的回台湾。为台湾去做贡献。中华人民共和国没人挽留你。
 
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