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Locals wary of Iemma port plans
Source: Southern Courier
Author: Tim Martin
Posted: Tue 5 Jun, 2007
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http://www.villagevoice.com.au/article/20070605/NWS10/706040327/Locals+wary+of+Iemma+port+plans

Trains are the key to the state government's freight strategy for the expanded Port Botany, but critics say local roads will be completely overwhelmed by truck movements.

The Premier, Morris Iemma, announced what he said was one of the "big decisions for the State's economic future" last week when he outlined his Government's commitment to increase rail freight from Port Botany.

Mr Iemma said that in releasing his Government's freight strategy for the port expansion, he aimed to get heavy trucks and containers off local roads and onto rail and to provide for the increasing container traffic.

He also announced an intermodal freight terminal to be built at Enfield where containers would be unpacked and distributed to warehouses and distribution centres throughout Sydney.

"By putting more of your container traffic on rail you've relieved congestion and you've relieved pollution for local residents," he said.

He estimated that about 300 heavy containers currently on and around Port Botany roads and other roads in the Inner West would be removed daily as the Government strove to achieve a target of 40 per cent of freight carried by rail.

Maroubra MP Michael Daley welcomed the announcement.

"This is fantastic news for people of the local area and particularly, the people of Botany," Mr Daley said. "I'm working hard to ensure we get as many large trucks off our local roads [as possible] and one of the best ways to do this is to put them on rail."

But Botany Bay mayor Ron Hoenig, who is opposed to the port expansion, said the only way to reduce its impact on the local area was to properly mandate the rail target.

"Our residents have had enough," Cr Hoenig said. "We have to get this to a 40 per cent minimum. If they have to mandate that target to do so, then so be it." He said roads in and around the Botany area were already at full capacity. "If this rail target is not met, that puts an extra 2 million trucks on the road and I don't know where they are going to go."

State Greens MP and spokeswoman on ports, Lee Rhiannon, said Mr Iemma's expansion plan would "unnecessarily strangle Sydney".

"Port Botany will run 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Over 50 Sydney suburbs will become industrial thoroughfares for increased road and freight traffic," she said.

Save Botany Beach deputy chairman Greg Killeen was also angry at the Government's proposal: "Its impact will squeeze the last breath of air from Sydney's choking roads," he said
 

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More Nimby dickeads, they have all the infrastructure there and still they complain. If you want to live near and airport and port, then fecking put up with it!

The port needs to expand and using rail is an excellent idea to move the freight around. Hopfully this is part of the clearways project and wont cause congestion on the commuter and suburban networks.
 

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And a related story -

Terminal spells 'dark day'
Source: Inner West Courier
Author: Joseph Sumegi Posted:
Wed 6 Jun, 2007

http://www.villagevoice.com.au/article/20070605/NWS10/706050305/Terminal+spells++dark+day+

The Port Enfield freight terminal will soon become a reality, after the State Government announced its plan to streamline trade through Port Botany by opening two new freight terminals.

The Enfield centre, which is expected to be joined by a centre in Moorebank, will handle freight coming into Port Botany. The freight will be transported by rail to the Enfield terminal, which will operate 24 hours a day and have the potential to move 300,000 containers a year.

It is expected more than 1000 semitrailers and B-doubles will move each day and night through the Strathfield municipality alone.

Premier Morris Iemma said the plan should lower truck movements around the airport, Port Botany and Marrickville.

"Most of this freight is going from [Port Botany] to western Sydney, so if we don't act now to increase rail movements, we will see more heavy trucks on our roads and more congestion," Mr Iemma said.

Mr Iemma also said the Government would consult residential groups about the plan. But the plan has already angered residents living near the former Enfield marshalling yards.

No Port Enfield (NoPE) spokesman Gary Blaschke said the Government's announcement spelt a "dark day for this part of Sydney", because Enfield would be used as an intermodal logistics centre, where containers could be opened and unpacked onto smaller trucks.

"So, on top of the extra semitrailers, there's a quarantine issue for Enfield," Mr Blaschke said.

Strathfield mayor Bill Carney said the proposal lacked sufficient detail and further investigation into the plan was needed.

"I would like to know what infrastructure is planned to support this proposal at Enfield, as there is simply just not the level of detail one would expect for such an important development proposal," Cr Carney said.

"Noise impact and air emissions from locomotives travelling 24 hours a day to and from the logistics centre will destroy the amenity of the neighbouring residential suburbs."

Like Mr Blaschke, Cr Carney also questioned whether there was a need for a freight terminal in Enfield.

"There appears to be very little sense in locating an intermodal logistics centre in Enfield some 18 kilometres from Port Botany," he said.

"The economic viability of double handling and transporting the containers for such a short distance is questionable."
 

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The goodsyard at Enfield is a perfect location for the terminal. When I go through there it always seems quiet there and not ulitised in the way it should. When you think of it, not as many people as you think will be affected. It is right in the middle of an industrial area. It will cope.

However I don't support the expansion of Port Botany. There isn't much space for the terminal to expand and not to mention damaginging the fragile environment of the bay. Send it to Port Kembla and Newcastle.
 

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The goodsyard at Enfield is a perfect location for the terminal. When go through there it always seems quiet there and not ulitised in the way it should. When you think of it, not as many people as you think will be affected. It is right in the middle of an industrial area. It will cope.

However I don't support the expansion of Port Botany. There isn't much space for the terminal to expand and not to mention damaginging the fragile environment of the bay. Send it to Port Kembla and Newcastle.
It's fine to say don't expand Port Botany, but our rail links to Wollongong and Newcastle are already under enormous pressure and clearways will only reduce traffic within the suburban lines. We really need state of the art prot facilities like this in places like Singapore, Korea and Hong Kong. Work smart, not harder.

BTW Newcastle already has substantial Port issues as it is. While there is alot of room to build and expand, there is the current problems of capacity for coal loading. Having 50 bulk carriers stretching as far south as the Northern Beaches is ludicrous. It's costing money when that money should be funnelled into expanding our facilities to better handle multiple ships. Adding further container freight to Newcastle will complicate the situation.

Hehe Fabian you are so starting to sound like a South Sydney Greens representative ;) I guess it's great you want to protect the bay. Government already wants to move frieght to Pt Kembla and Newcastle but we need massive infrastructure upgrades to make it happen.
 

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I'm converstaive but at the same time where I feel the environment needs to be protected, I'll support it. I've been up bought around Botany Bay. I don't quite live around the bay now at Sylvania these days, but the port combined with other development around the bay has damaged it. they have said that the bay could have no natural coastline by 2025. And there's the concern it could erode Lady Robinsons Beach even further.

And our freight lines are long due for an upgrade. The government has done little to tackle this.
 

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how come the hawkesbury river area never had a port developed? i'm including brisbane waters/pittwater in this too, the whole waterway area up there. isn't it quite deep in it's main channels? i guess it would never happen nowdays, there's too much national park and it is too pristine to be torn up for a port but why wasn't it back in the past?
 

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how come the hawkesbury river area never had a port developed? i'm including brisbane waters/pittwater in this too, the whole waterway area up there. isn't it quite deep in it's main channels? i guess it would never happen nowdays, there's too much national park and it is too pristine to be torn up for a port but why wasn't it back in the past?
Simple reason: not anywhere near enough flat land.
 

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From the SMH yesterday.
A quiet start to the project.

Authority to ensure estuary not lost to birds with Port Botany expansion
John Huxley
May 29, 2008


On site … Hazel Watson starts her new role.

BY THE time work officially started yesterday on the controversial $1 billion Port Botany expansion, Hazel Watson had been up for a couple of hours patrolling the foreshores, not so much looking for trouble as heading it off.

Every day, morning and afternoon, for the next few years, Ms Watson will count the shorebirds using the near-by Penrhyn Estuary. She will monitor their behaviour and blow the whistle on any construction activity that appears to disturb them.

More at: http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...botanyexpansion/2008/05/28/1211654124115.html
 

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So now that freight is going to be railed from Port Botany to Enfield with trucking to take over from there, does that mean that the truck tunnel from the M4 east to Botany and the widening of the M5 for trucks to Port Botany will not be needed?

Or will it be like Iron Cove Bridge - it will be widened anyway for more road traffic even with a metro being built along the same corridor?

This government is a master of the wolf in sheep's clothing.
 

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Are you telling me they actually implemented Kirby's recommendations only 30 years after he told them to do it?
 
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