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L.A. climbs past 4 million
The city has as many people as New Zealand, more than 24 states. California's total is nearly 37.7 million.

By Cara Mia DiMass
The Los Angeles Times
May 2, 2007



Finally, something to explain the gridlock at your local coffeehouse and clogged freeways that seem to extend well into the night.

The population of L.A. quietly surpassed the 4-million mark for the first time last year, the California Department of Finance announced Tuesday.

Angelenos probably don't need a demographer to tell them what they already know: that the city is growing more densely populated. But the numbers show that the city gained 37,658 residents last year, and as of Jan. 1, its population was 4,018,080.

"It's a spectacular arc of development when you consider that in 1900, L.A. had a population of 102,459," said historian Kevin Starr.

L.A. lore holds that the city was founded in 1781 by 44 people, transplants from the San Gabriel Mission. That puts the 226-year gain in population at 4,018,036.

The L.A. numbers were part of a report released Tuesday that pegged the state's population at almost 37.7 million. That represents a growth of almost 1.3%, or 470,000, in 2006.

State demographers use a variety of data — including driver's licenses, school enrollments, Medi-Cal recipients, birthrates, immigration and state to state migration — to estimate population change.

The Riverside County city of Beaumont saw the state's fastest growth rate, 21.2%.

In Orange County, Irvine passed 200,000 in population, bringing to 20 the number of cities in the state that exceed 200,000 in population.

But it was the Los Angeles numbers that had most people talking Tuesday.

Just how big does that make L.A.?

With 4 million people, the city of Los Angeles has more people than 24 states, according to federal census data. And it's got roughly the same number as the entire country of New Zealand.

The increase occurred over the last year, as L.A. added 10,239 housing units, according to the state data.

Many of those units were downtown, where the city has seen a marked increase in population as former commercial buildings have been converted into lofts and apartments and a number of new residential buildings have opened.

The city, Starr said, is "embracing and exulting in its urbanism."

Starr and other historians have said that Los Angeles' role as an international city, attracting immigrants from all over the world, has been a key factor in its quick demographic rise.

Los Angeles, said Harry Pachon, a USC public policy professor, has "been in a growth mode…. The dynamism of Los Angeles continues to attract people."

Pachon sees modest growth in the foreseeable future. Families in Latin America are having fewer children, he said, diminishing population pressures there. He also said that the continued increase in housing prices in Southern California meant that more people were seeking economic opportunity outside the region.

L.A. threw itself parties (and the L.A. Times produced banner headlines) when the city reached the 1-million and 1.5-million levels, in 1923 and 1940. (The 1-million mark was estimated by counting the number of, among other things, barber shops.)

But don't expect a lot of celebrating of the new milestone.

Edward Soja, a professor of urban planning at UCLA, called passing the 4-million mark "not that dramatic a transition," especially as L.A.'s population gains are eclipsed, in percentage, by growth elsewhere in the region.

But he said that he worried that Southern California in general is ill-equipped to deal with rapid growth, especially the area's administrative and governmental structures.

"I would say never before is it more needed to have some form of regional coordination, whether we are talking about housing and homelessness or transportation and airports or environment and pollution," Soja said.

The L.A. region, he added, "has the worst housing crisis anywhere in the developed world. It's not being addressed with the urgency it needs to be addressed."

Janelle Erickson, a spokeswoman for Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, wasn't weighing in about whether the numbers were a good or bad thing. But she did hint that she understood why people were moving to the city.

"What the mayor always says is that Los Angeles is a city where the world comes together," Erickson said. "Los Angeles is a city of America's hope and promise, where the dreams of so many have come to life."

Except, perhaps, on the 405 Freeway at rush hour. Or the Starbucks line at 8:30 a.m.
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but the city has 1,290.6 km² that a lot of surface area! it is not so crowded as I was thinking.
Los Angeles sprawls for miles and miles yet it maintains a pretty high density. It is also the densest metro area in the United States. For a car-oriented city, Los Angeles is very dense and matches the average population densities of some European cities even. Keep in mind that cities such as Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta all have population densities in the 3,000's while LA maintains a population density of about 8,500/square mile.
Los Angeles has a lot of sprawl going on, but is a very heavily car-reliant city, so having so many cars (not the people) is problematic.
^Statistics will show that more and more people are riding the Metro. We are extending the Gold Line to East LA which will open in 2009 and we also are opening a new line that will stretch from Downtown to Culver City which will open in 2010. That should ease traffic some.
Los Angeles has a lot of sprawl going on, but is a very heavily car-reliant city, so having so many cars (not the people) is problematic.
I'm not jumping on you but tell us something we don't know.
The beach front density is just incredible.
^Statistics will show that more and more people are riding the Metro. We are extending the Gold Line to East LA which will open in 2009 and we also are opening a new line that will stretch from Downtown to Culver City which will open in 2010. That should ease traffic some.
That's an advantage since I stay in Culver City when I'm in LA.

LA may surpass 4 million but it's still not the largest city in THE US.
I find I hard to believe that LA has only four million people. My guess is that with all the illegals it's probably around 5 million. I mean come on, the city has had for decades of heavy immigration from Mexico.
I find I hard to believe that LA has only four million people. My guess is that with all the illegals it's probably around 5 million. I mean come on, the city has had for decades of heavy immigration from Mexico.
LOL, there are illegal immigrants from other countries as well. They also liveamong the 8 million people in...shock..NEW YORK CITY!!!

You don't have to "hop a border" to be illegal. Getting a legal visa into the USA and staying long after it expires is illegal as well. A lot of Asians, Africans and...shock..EUROPEANS come into the county illegally that way.

Whatever...typical ignorant NYer.
I'm not jumping on you but tell us something we don't know.
Not everyone knows it, lol, pointing out the obvious and then posting about nothing but pointing out the obvious... :nuts:
It makes sense that a lot of LA's illegal immigrants come from Mexico, I don't get why you are being so aggressive. I'm getting out of this thread, many LAers being protective of their precious city...

Anyway, I think census doesn't care if you are illegal or not (of course, some people might be afraid to report themselves because of misinformation)... overrepresenting yourself in the census is a good thing, because a lot of funs allocation, electoral votes, etc. are based on census figures ( I think )
I'm getting out of this thread, many LAers being protective of their precious city...
Maybe its because of the majority of people on this board who likes to talk shit about our city and think they know what there talking about when they don't have no fucking idea whats going on here.

You're damn right were going to be defensive about our city.
4 million is very misleading. The metropolitan region of Los Angeles is closer to 17 million people. It is important to realize what geographic boundaries people are using. For example, the City of Toronto is 2.5 million, Greater Toronto is 5.2 million, the Greater Goldern Horseshoe (the urban region around the western edge of Lake Ontario) is 8.1 million.
4 million is very misleading. The metropolitan region of Los Angeles is closer to 17 million people. It is important to realize what geographic boundaries people are using. For example, the City of Toronto is 2.5 million, Greater Toronto is 5.2 million, the Greater Goldern Horseshoe (the urban region around the western edge of Lake Ontario) is 8.1 million.
When i first saw the thread i was like "NO WAY! THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE IN SYDNEY THAN LA!" I guess not if u say there are 17 mill.. hahahaha.
^It's actually 18 million. That's the CSA population of course.
Los Angeles sprawls for miles and miles yet it maintains a pretty high density. It is also the densest metro area in the United States. For a car-oriented city, Los Angeles is very dense and matches the average population densities of some European cities even. Keep in mind that cities such as Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta all have population densities in the 3,000's while LA maintains a population density of about 8,500/square mile.
From the US Census Bureau's American Fact Finder:

Population Density per square mile for Primary Metropolitam Statistical Areas in 2000:
1. Jersey City PMSA 13,043.6
2. New York PMSA 8,158.7
3. Orange County PMSA 3,605.6
4. Los Angeles-Long Beach PMSA 2,344.2
5. San Francisco PMSA 1,704.7
I thought LA city proper had more inhabitants
that's because cities try to look bigger and always show big numbers to get investment. is something that has more than 1000 km2 a single city?
I thought LA city proper had more inhabitants
Data estimated for 2005 from the United States Bureau of the Census and rounded because of different estimation techniques used:

Los Angeles City ~ 4 million
Los Angeles County ~ 10 million
Los Angeles Urbanized Area ~ 12 Million
Los Angeles Primary Metropolitan Statistical Area ~ 13 Million
Los Angeles Combined Statistical Area ~ 17.5 million

Each one of these different geographic defintions for American Cities are precisely defined at:
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/reference.html
Yes it really is that complicated and to make matters worse every nation tends to use different definitions, especially for urbanized area.
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