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A historic former Birmingham City Council office block could get a new lease of life as a hotel.

Louisa Ryland House, a cluster of three Victorian buildings behind Birmingham’s Council House, has been empty since it was sold for development in 2014.



Now its owner Euro Property Investments Ltd wants to turn the grand five-storey building into a 173 room apartment-hotel.

The rooms will have extra facilities such as kitchenettes and would be aimed at business customers

It is a change from original plans for the Grade II listed building, approved in 2016, to revamp it as offices with restaurant and cafes at the ground floor.

There was controversy over a two-storey roof top extension which was opposed by the city’s Victorian Society but ultimately backed by the planning committee.


According to a report to the city’s Conservation and Heritage Panel, the rooftop extension would remain as part of the hotel complex
https://www.birminghampost.co.uk/ne...otel-plan-landmark-former-birmingham-14646785
 

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Needs a good scrub as part of the refurb... whatever the end use
 
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Application now in for this one

We have a operator for the Hotel too, Native Hotels https://www.nativemanagement.co.uk/apart-hotels/

Application Number 2018/04429/PA
Application Type Listed Building
Site Address Louisa Ryland House Newhall Street/Edmund Street City Centre Birmingham B3 3PL
Proposal Listed Building Consent for demolition of existing mansard roof and erection of two storey roof extension, together with internal and external alterations in connection with change of use from offices (Use Class B1) to hotel (Use Class C1) and offices (Use Class B1)
https://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk...tion Details&PUBLIC=Y&DAURI=PLANNING&XMLSIDE=

Application Number 2018/04367/PA
Application Type Full Planning
Site Address Louisa Ryland House Newhall Street/Edmund Street City Centre Birmingham B3 3PL
Proposal Change of use from offices (Use Class B1) to hotel (Use Class C1) and offices (Use Class B1); demolition of existing mansard roof and erection of two storey roof extension together with internal and external alterations
https://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk...tion Details&PUBLIC=Y&DAURI=PLANNING&XMLSIDE=
 

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Few changes. The whole ground floor fronting Newhall Street & Cornwall Street will be used as a bar/ restauraunt as the operators of it required more space than previously envisaged. So the entire Newhall St ground floor will be in active use, including the Edmund Street corner

Following the increase in floorspace, the double height space on Newhall St has been dropped by Native as they feared it would detract from their ground floor functions, although it will have zero impact externally.

Plus, there was office space penciled in for the 5th floor initially. This has now being shelved in favour of more rooms, which means we get an increase from 173 to 182 hotel rooms
 

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Few changes. The whole ground floor fronting Newhall Street & Cornwall Street will be used as a bar/ restauraunt as the operators of it required more space than previously envisaged. So the entire Newhall St ground floor will be in active use, including the Edmund Street corner

Following the increase in floorspace, the double height space on Newhall St has been dropped by Native as they feared it would detract from their ground floor functions, although it will have zero impact externally.

Plus, there was office space penciled in for the 5th floor initially. This has now being shelved in favour of more rooms, which means we get an increase from 173 to 182 hotel rooms
Having the ground floor bar and restaurant will be fantastic, especially as this whole area will be pedestrianised so hopefully the bars will spill out onto the street european style
 

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Conclusion

I consider that the scheme complies with local and national planning conservation policies. In particular, the public benefits of the proposals, including securing its optimum viable use, offset the less than substantial harm resulting from the roof top addition. Subject to safeguarding conditions I therefore consider that the application is acceptable.

Recommendation: Approve subject to conditions.
This goes to the planning committee on the 13th of September
 

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The original office conversion plan was for 2 ground floor commercial units with removal of the roof and proper 2 storey extension on top

Will be interesting if they’ll do anything more than a refurb though
 
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