LRT/MONORAIL/MRT Train Announcements and Signage at the station.

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KLhunter

Discussion Starter · May 4, 2014

IMHO our train announcement should be clear and use the proper voice. recently the new KJ line train announcement not so good compare to the previous one. the best train announcement so far is in the KLIA transit and KLIA express. The voice is clear and the pronouncation was good. Why lrt and monorail cant implement the good one...

The signages at the stations also need to change because the one that using now looks so bad.

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THE PERFECTOR

· #141 · Aug 11, 2014 (Edited)

A bus stop in Singapore:

All the bus stops in Singapore are given a proper name and hard copy signage:

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AsHalt

· #142 · Aug 12, 2014

THE PERFECTOR said:
A bus stop in Singapore:

All the bus stops in Singapore are given a proper name and hard copy signage:

Actually no ,they are not named but instead they were given identification markers from the street they are on and the LTA code for the bus stops.
And also the bus stops are not all that well built ,some are faced with overcrowding while some are "ancient artifact"

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THE PERFECTOR

· #143 · Aug 13, 2014 (Edited)

AsHalt said:
Actually no ,they are not named but instead they were given identification markers from the street they are on and the LTA code for the bus stops.
And also the bus stops are not all that well built ,some are faced with overcrowding while some are "ancient artifact"

At least it's still better than Malaysia, NOTHING. ILEK. Identification marker or not, the stop "name" it's still on the hard copy signage as you can see. Overcrowding, ancient artifact or not, their public transport ranking and services in the world is ANYTIME better/higher than Malaysia or even Kuala Lumpur. And what is identification marker??? Does it work like a name too??? Before we Malaysia, the public transportation system is still lacking FAR BEHIND many other countries, we don't have the right to be arrogant and too proud of our public transportation system. Even try to compare with countries like Nigeria, Myanmar, Vietnam, Indonesia, Nepal (those lousy backward third world countries or regions) to JUSTIFY the efficiency and coverage of our own public transportation system.

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THE PERFECTOR

· #144 · Aug 13, 2014

Study: Singapore's public transport system one of world's most efficient
PUBLISHED ON JUN 2, 2014 4:43 PM
BY ROYSTON SIM
SINGAPORE - Singapore has one of the most cost-efficient public transport networks in the world, according to a study released on Monday.

Conducted by London consulting firm Credo, the study sought to calculate the "economic cost" of inefficient transport to the economies of 35 cities, as well as the economic benefits of investing in transport.

It derived the cost of commuting using factors such as journey time, fares, crowding levels, and ease of using the network. The more efficient a transport network, the lower the impact on productivity.

The study found that in Singapore, the economic cost of transport to an individual commuter is 8.9 per cent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita.

(If we want to learn, we have to LEARN FROM THE BEST, the nearest to us is Singapore)
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/transport/story/study-singapores-public-transport-system-one-worlds-most-efficient-20

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THE PERFECTOR

· #145 · Aug 13, 2014

What are the world's best metro systems?
There are few better ways to avoid traffic jams and road rage than by using underground rail -- but which systems are the best? by CNN
Singapore
SMRT swept “the MetroRail Awards” in 2010, taking home prizes for Most Energy Efficient, Most Technologically Innovative, Best Metro in Asia-Pacific and Most Improved Odor.

After an amalgamation of several transit-service-providers in 2000, SMRT has grown to 600 million passengers per year.

Some use it to seek refuge from the heat outside, lapping up the air-conditioned comfort.

The system gets demerits for lack of EZ-Link ticket card machines at some stations, meaning frequent lengthy lines for travelers needing to top up or buy a ticket.

http://travel.cnn.com/explorations/life/10-best-metro-systems-746919

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dexter.yyunus

· #146 · Aug 13, 2014

dexter.yyunus said:
New KTM Komuter (in train) Annoucement

http://soundcloud.com/dexteryyunus/ktm-komuter-in-train

http://soundcloud.com/dexteryyunus/ktm-komuter-in-train-1

KJ Line (in train) announcement

http://soundcloud.com/dexteryyunus/kj-line-announcement-recording

I think we need to reduce the noice inside the train. Perhaps, some sound proof on its body.

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boxxy

· #147 · Aug 14, 2014 (Edited)

dexter.yyunus said:
KJ Line (in train) announcement

http://soundcloud.com/dexteryyunus/kj-line-announcement-recording

I think we need to reduce the noice inside the train. Perhaps, some sound proof on its body.

Frankly, I don't think sound proofing is going to be effective nor is it going to be cheap. It's better if they have visual signals/announcements to compliment the audio announcement. Since LCD technology, is getting real cheap and small, I am sure they could imitate the Yamanote Line in Tokyo Japan by having visual destinations shown on LCD screen above every other door. Of course, this brings it back to the basics for showing only simple and relevant information which I know Malaysian Transport Operators have a tough time doing.. But this would be much better.

Door opening information

Uses could also include showing other relevant information such as status concerning other relevant train lines, diversions etc.

Note the use of 2 separate LCD screens on top of each door. It's done so one could show adverts or whatever without interrupting the other's use for displaying pure train information.

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dexter.yyunus

· #148 · Aug 14, 2014

boxxy said:
Frankly, I don't think sound proofing is going to be effective nor is it going to be cheap. It's better if they have visual signals/announcements to compliment the audio announcement. Since LCD technology, is getting real cheap, I am sure they could imitate the Yamanote Line in Tokyo Japan by having visual destinations shown on LCD screen above every other door. Of course, this brings it back to the basics for showing only simple and relevant information which I know Malaysian Transport Operators have a tough time doing.. But this would be much better.

Yes, the visual signals/annoucements is not only to compliment the audio announcement but it helps those OKU (having impaired hearing; deaf) to identify the station.

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THE PERFECTOR

· #149 · Aug 14, 2014

Yes, now it's the time to discuss about LCD and LED info display at public buses, taxi or the metro rolling stock or even KTMB train. Let's have a look at some samples:

BUS IN CHINA (INSIDE):

INSIDE A SMRT BUS, SINGAPORE:

BIG AND CLEAR LED DISPLAY SIGN by SMRT BUSES OF SINGAPORE:

SMRT BUS VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pNu5pE9Jhs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GezyPZfP4BE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlCOaVVqr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZPTc1s8yM

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THE PERFECTOR

· #150 · Aug 14, 2014

LED SIGNAGE AT METRO TRAINS/ROLLING STOCK:

LCD and LED Passenger Information System at Seoul Metro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5iroo5FZOg&list=TL1siTtqqfRqzlAqLbw0lSKWs8XTXI7Nkz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMq4nili0Ms&list=TL1siTtqqfRqzlAqLbw0lSKWs8XTXI7Nkz&index=6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFexaAlXtqw&list=TL1siTtqqfRqzlAqLbw0lSKWs8XTXI7Nkz&index=11

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THE PERFECTOR

· #151 · Aug 14, 2014

TAXI PASSENGER INFORMATION SYSTEM:

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sabre23t

· #152 · Aug 15, 2014

THE PERFECTOR said:
A bus stop in Singapore:
http://www.terragalleria.com/images/malaysia/sing48875.jpeg
All the bus stops in Singapore are given a proper name and hard copy signage:
http://www.program.com.hk/upload/portfolio_images/Singapore-02.jpg

Bus stops a little bit off topic "LRT/MONORAIL/MRT Train Announcements and Signage at the station" ...

But why do you think bus stops in KL (and Klang Valley) do not have unique identification (names and code number)?
Which authorities are in charge or owns the bus stops?

THE PERFECTOR

· #153 · Aug 15, 2014

sabre23t said:
Bus stops a little bit off topic "LRT/MONORAIL/MRT Train Announcements and Signage at the station" ...

But why do you think bus stops in KL (and Klang Valley) do not have unique identification (names and code number)?
Which authorities are in charge or owns the bus stops?

I stay in KL, I know. ONLY a VERY FEW bus stops in KL got identification. ONLY those in very very major and prime important locations like KL Sentral, Pasar Seni, Bangsar LRT station or Wangsa Maju lrt station and so on. Besides that, you won't see identification or even schedule for bus stop at taman-taman areas like what they have at all the very normal and average residential areas in Singapore. Oh, it's not off topic, feeder bus for all these rail stations are very important too. I don't believe areas like Bedok, Chua Chu Kang, Simei or Yishun are very prime locations in Singapore. Ang Mo Kio is also a very average residential area in Singapore.

THE PERFECTOR

· #154 · Aug 15, 2014

sabre23t, just look at the bus stop at Jurong industrial area, it's even better than many bus stops at our KL prime areas.

Note: Boon Lay it's within Jurong East area.

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anantha92

· #155 · Aug 15, 2014

sabre23t said:
Bus stops a little bit off topic "LRT/MONORAIL/MRT Train Announcements and Signage at the station" ...

But why do you think bus stops in KL (and Klang Valley) do not have unique identification (names and code number)?
Which authorities are in charge or owns the bus stops?

It's not off topic. Anyway what is really needed is a signpost at every bus stop with an identifier code and each stop must be on a sidewalk to allow the disabled to board the bus. A strict timetable is also needed, even if it is every 30 minutes, at least people can plan when to leave their house, right now the low frequency buses which leave every hour are totally useless as no one has any idea when the bus will arrive.

THE PERFECTOR

· #156 · Aug 15, 2014

If you think I didn't compare an apple to another apple and being unfair, what about we look at Taipei in Taiwan (8.5 million)???
Bus stops and buses in Taipei, Taiwan:

Bus stops at average normal housing or residential areas in Taipei, Taiwan.

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THE PERFECTOR

· #157 · Aug 15, 2014 (Edited)

The Importance of Public Transport Passenger Information System by The Institution of Highway and Transportation United Kingdom:
(Kindly download the PDF)
file:///C:/Users/DELL/Downloads/public_transport_passenger_information%20(1).pdf

How can a train rolling stock or a metro/commuter train can be considered equipped/qualified with proper and complete passenger information system???
http://www.ruf.ch/en/telematik/ruf-telematik/

ScuderiaVincero

· #158 · Aug 15, 2014

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned to you before The Perfector, but do refrain from using Caps Lock in your posts. It's akin to shouting, and there's no need for that, as your fellow forumers are able and willing to hear you out. Caps Lock aside, you make a good case for what you are arguing for and the numerous examples and references you provide are top notch.

kay:

Also, if everyone could find a way to keep their picture posts to a more moderate size, something that doesn't require sideways scrolling, that would be lovely! Carry on lads!

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sabre23t

· #159 · Aug 15, 2014

anantha92 said:
It's not off topic.

Not off topic? I guess TS should amend the thread topic "LRT/MONORAIL/MRT Train Announcements and Signage at the station" to include Bus & Bus Stops.

anantha92 said:
Anyway what is really needed is a signpost at every bus stop with an identifier code

THE PERFECTOR said:
ONLY a VERY FEW bus stops in KL got identification.

I agree with many of what both of you say about bus stops in KL (Klang Valley). However, lets focus on this case of "identification code" for bus stops. Perhaps you can answer the following questions ...

Who put the "identification code" on those bus stops in KL? SPAD? DBKL? Bus Operators?
Who should put the "identification code" on bus stops in KL and rest of Klang Valley?
What does RapidKL currently use to identify bus stops in Klang Valley? Ref MyRapid Routes & JourneyPlanner http://www.myrapid.com.my/bus/rapidkl/routes .
What does SPAD currently use to identify bus stops for services they directly give to passengers in KL? Ref GoKL four routes http://www.spad.gov.my/transport-operators/buses/route-map-gokl-city-bus .
What does MBPJ currently use to identify bus stops for their community bus service? Ref SSC thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1698255

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sabre23t

· #160 · Aug 15, 2014

wolnivek said:
Hi everyone, I have done a very brief redesign of the signage system of the LRT. Please leave a comment, and I will really appreciate it.
It is an idea that combines Malaysia identity and signage. Signage placement and more will be added on next phase of design.
http://i.imgur.com/hASMtti.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5EeEesx.jpg

Sorry late comments.
I don't see how you incorporated the concept of "line colours" into your signages. This concept of line colours goes across all the rail operators (RapidKL, KTM, ERL, MRT) as endorsed by SPAD in this map http://www.spad.gov.my/klang-valley-rail-transit-map . Nine line colours have been identified.

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