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[Quote/] Several African countries have enjoyed economic growth in recent years - but there are fears that a failure to develop manufacturing could prove to be costly.

"Made in China" is a stamp that is ubiquitous and can be found on a wide range of objects - anything from T-shirts and shoes, to watches and televisions - worldwide.

The same is true of labels showing that an object originated in Taiwan or Vietnam.

But it is rare to find an object which has a mark that points to origins in African country - "Made in Nigeria" or "Made in Chad", for example.

Despite experiencing regional economic growth in recent years, Africa commands a meagre 1.5% share of the world's total manufacturing output, according to the United Nations Industrial Development Organisation.

That compares with a 21.7% share for the Asia Pacific region, 17.2% for East Asia and North America's 22.4% share.

"Economies that have sustained high growth over the long term have typically gone through a process of economic diversification, the spread of new technologies, rising productivity in agriculture, the expansion of the manufacturing sector, and the development of a skilled workforce," write the authors of a recently published Africa Progress Panel report.

"These have not been characteristics of growth in Africa, even in sectors that are attracting foreign investment. Put differently, there has been a lot of growth but little structural transformation," they conclude.

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World manufacturing output
Europe: 24.7%
North America: 22.4%
Asia & Pacific: 21.7%
East Asia: 17.2%
Others: 6.7%
Latin America: 5.8%
Africa: 1.5%
Source: Unido

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27329594
 

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only 1.5% of the worlds manufacturing comes fromAfrica, if the continent continues to squander the revenues from its resource boom the continent will never be able to properly develop
 

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Now imagine the effects of signing the EPA with the EU....
Maybe with an industrialist like Dangote showing it can be done, more African money men can invest in African manufacturing.
 

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This is a very depressing reality.....Africa will continue to be the poorest region in the world if there is no mass industrialization.

Big countries (from 15 million and up) need to be aggressive in industrialization.

I don't see this happening if there are no economic competition/rivalries between big countries like that which made the West induatrial, and that East Asia is following.
 

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This is a very depressing reality.....Africa will continue to be the poorest region in the world if there is no mass industrialization.

Big countries (from 15 million and up) need to be aggressive in industrialization.

I don't see this happening if there are no economic competition/rivalries between big countries like that which made the West induatrial, and that East Asia is following.
You have resource rich countries like Botswana, Nigeria and Angola patting themselves on the back for resource based growth and failing to recognise they need to invest in manufacturing to sustain long term growth, while on the other hand you have countries like Kenya who want to run before they can walk by investing in high tech manufacturing. Either way the ow tech manufacturing which China built itself upon and the west before it, is largely ignored.
 

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Africa has an opportunity now China is becoming too expensive for low tech manufacturing. That means that western manufacturers will seek to move their production else where. Bangladesh and Cambodia have all ready acquired the textiles market from China. But opportunities remain in a lot of low tech industries and if Africa doesn't sieze these opportunities they will go to the likes of India, Bangladesh and so on.
 

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You have resource rich countries like Botswana, Nigeria and Angola patting themselves on the back for resource based growth and failing to recognise they need to invest in manufacturing to sustain long term growth, while on the other hand you have countries like Kenya who want to run before they can walk by investing in high tech manufacturing. Either way the ow tech manufacturing which China built itself upon and the west before it, is largely ignored.
Considering we have these big populations, not only big, but grow so fast....there is only one cure, mass industrialization....africans don't get it at all, even when South Africa is just in the neighborhood as an example.

All Africans produce the samething (agroculture, some minerals, some Oil/Gaz), nothing else...how are they even going to boost Intra African trade when they produce the same things. they all import the same things, even basics like Textiles. Sonme countries used to produce more textiles, some how Asians took that away.

Africans must think of mass industrialization or else we'll stay last of the class position.
 

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Considering we have these big populations, not only big, but grow so fast....there is only one cure, mass industrialization....africans don't get it at all, even when South Africa is just in the neighborhood as an example.

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Look how this thread is largely being ignored, the attiude amongst many African's is were seeing growth don't question it. Unless its a thread patting each other on the back people ain't interested. African countries have the opportunity to fix the roof while the sun is shinning but you know they won't. Mineral prices will fall before weve had a chance to do anything and we will be back to square one.
 

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Considering we have these big populations, not only big, but grow so fast....there is only one cure, mass industrialization....africans don't get it at all, even when South Africa is just in the neighborhood as an example.

All Africans produce the samething (agroculture, some minerals, some Oil/Gaz), nothing else...how are they even going to boost Intra African trade when they produce the same things. they all import the same things, even basics like Textiles. Sonme countries used to produce more textiles, some how Asians took that away.

Africans must think of mass industrialization or else we'll stay last of the class position.
There does need to be more coordination between African countries regarding economics.
Rather than many countries having the same small businesses that cannot grew into behemoths, we need more Dangote Cement type giants and then the smaller businesses can be integrated into their supply chains.
 

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Africa has an opportunity now China is becoming too expensive for low tech manufacturing. That means that western manufacturers will seek to move their production else where. Bangladesh and Cambodia have all ready acquired the textiles market from China. But opportunities remain in a lot of low tech industries and if Africa doesn't sieze these opportunities they will go to the likes of India, Bangladesh and so on.
I recently watched a stream on BBCNews about a Nigerian Textile factory up in Cano that exmployed i think 5,000 empleoyees (I think).


A very depressing news.
 

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There does need to be more coordination between African countries regarding economics.
Rather than many countries having the same small businesses that cannot grew into behemoths, we need more Dangote Cement type giants and then the smaller businesses can be integrated into their supply chains.
Yes, we need lots of Dangotes. it's what i've been saying we need industrialization.

The African politicians are really a big obstacle clogging the progress...They seem not to have the will of supporting lioocal industrialists...

Recently Forza Kimono posted a looting article (corruption) in SE Nigeria h how Aba,a local industrial city that has been starved of electrcity.

Some local Kenyans trying investing in an auto industry, but i don't think they will get the support they need for mass production and overall development of that auto project.

There are many small developments around in some countries that needs big government supports to develop into industrial scale companies...But again, the political elites are so mentality inap to do their jobs.
 

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Industry requires funding and support. Politicians want to use the money to fund expensive imports from Europe and else where, for them selves and their cronies. Can you believe Lagos has a Ferrari dealership?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/23/africa-super-rich-luxury-cars
I saw that news about the Ferrari. interesting. East Europe Oligachy at work.

While factories are dying down, other industrial citiies being starved of basics like electricity.

DRC has 4 textile factories that no longer function. I remember back when i was a kid in 1990s, DRCas Zaire was not importing Cotton textiles as these factories produces them and were fed with Congolese farmed Cottons..but that is history, Congolese go to Asia for imports :nuts:
 

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I don't get it how the continent just lost the Textile industry alltogether. while we're massively importing, politicians pocketing funds with fat checks.\ only to go import luxuries that are even expensive for the developed world.
 

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Because the governments allowed their countries to be flooded by cheap Chinese imports and high end European ones. Pocketing for themselves a bit of money on customs duty and killing Africa's textile industry in the process.
 

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The infrastructure simply isnt there in most countries. Power at least is a basic.

I also watched a clip about a Chinese factory in Accra. The managers were going crazy because of the lack of puncuality and discipline in the staff. Such attitudes need to change. For factories you need to be right on time.
 
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