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Thanks Choggers, downloading application now.

Nice to see work still progressing on this. I believe much of the delay has been in sorting out highways issues. Assuming this revised application addresses those concerns, should be no stopping it?

Actually seeing this today triggered a thought. This site must be no more than a minute or two from the Leigh guided bus-way. The race course will obviously require a large car park (with excellent access to the M60) that will only be used to capacity half a dozen times a year, many of the meets being either at the weekend, or in the evening. Wonder if this could be used for park and ride?
 

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Salford racecourse on track





PLANS to return horseracing to Greater Manchester are under starter's orders.

The £100m scheme, called Salford Forest Park, was first unveiled five years ago, by developers Peel Holdings .

It was withdrawn and scaled down slightly after fierce local opposition and finally submitted for planning permission in July 2004. And it stalled after Salford City Council insisted on more information and changes to the proposals.

But now Peel has re-submitted the plan and it is likely to be considered by councillors later this year.

However the scheme - which would be on green belt land next to Botany Bay Wood, in Worsley and Boothstown - is so vast it would have to go to a public inquiry.

However Peel, owners of the Trafford Centre, are keen to get a decision from the council to give the scheme impetus.

A major change to the plan will involve how traffic to the racecourse is filtered off the M60 at junction 13, Worsley. Three years ago opponents feared the staging of around 30 race meetings a year would cause traffic chaos.

The development would also create a leisure park, involving an oval racetrack and 6000-seat grandstand, 18-hole international standard golf course, 80-bedroom country hotel, equestrian centre, and "eco village" with overnight accommodation and camping facilities.

There would also be 11 miles of cycle trails, eight miles of horse riding trails and 20 miles of footpaths.

It will be on a 1,690-acre site and will involve opening up largely inaccessible land, owned by Peel.

Original plans

In 2004 a pub and golf driving range were dropped from the original plans. Now further tinkering includes a reduction in size of the equestrian centre, stable lads' accommodation and the dropping of plans to floodlight an outdoor arena at the equestrian centre. The height of a clubhouse at the golf course would be reduced.

It is estimated that 500 jobs will be created by the return of the sport of kings to the region, following the closure of the Castle Irwell course in Salford in 1963.

Since 2004 Peel have staged a series of public exhibitions and consulted with local people about the plan.

Salford Council has had to send the plan to a number of organisations and statutory bodies, including the Highways Agency.

Philip Rothwell, senior development manager at Peel Holdings, said: "As a result of the consultations, some modifications to the original scheme have been made are the subject of a supplementary Environmental Statement. These have now been submitted to Salford City Council and we believe the council should now be in a position to make a decision."

Objectives

No changes are proposed to any of the fundamental objectives for the Park or to the range and quality of facilities proposed.

"The main modification is an amended layout of the M60 Junction 13 western roundabout," said Mr Rothwell. "The previous proposal envisaged a free flow left turn into the site from the M60 slip road and this is replaced by a signal controlled improved roundabout with a new arm providing access into the Salford Forest Park site."

There will also be a traffic light controlled pedestrian facility and a broad central reservation between the inward and outward lanes of the Salford Forest Park access at its entrance. The entrance will be landscaped and also feature a new sculpture.

"The scheme has been designed to deal with SFP's busiest occasions, but significantly it will bring a major benefit to the local area during the rest of the time, by reducing existing queues and delays at the junction," said Mr Rothwell.

The new scheme has been designed in full consultation with the Highways Agency.

"Salford Forest Park is important to the new Salford, we have consulted widely, made modifications where appropriate and now we really need Salford City Council to take it to Committee and make its decision," said Mr Rothwell.
 

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A tradition going back centuries

M.E.N. racing correspondent

IF a Greater Manchester racecourse were to be reborn in the 21st Century, it would revive a tradition going back hundreds of years, writes PETER LEVY.

Racing in the area dates back to a meeting on Barlow Moor in 1647, while another meeting was recorded 34 years later on Karsey Moor, which later became Kersal moor.

Over the years, the track moved to Castle Irwell, to New Barns before finally returning to Castle Irwell, where it stayed until 1963. The first race had taken place there in 1847, but ownership of the site passed into the hands of gambling abolitionist John Fitzgerald junior, who refused to renew the racecourse lease in 1867.

The Manchester racecourse company then moved a couple of miles away to New Barns, where it flourished for more than 30 years.

The Lancashire Plate, at £11,000 one of the most valuable races in the country, was run for the first time in 1888, but that race only lasted to 1893 and nine years later the racecourse company, which had finally bought back its former Castle Irwell site, staged the first meeting of the new era.

The track staged both flat and jumps races, attracting champion jockeys including Manchester-born Doug Smith, Steve Donoghue from Warrington, Sir Gordon Richards and Lester Piggott.
 

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6000 seater. Isnt that a little small?? Aintree is what; 80,000?
A 6,000 seat stand is pretty big as racecourses go.
Judging by the render there's a sizeable terrace and enclosure as well that will accomodate thousands more punters.

I'm not sure what Aintree's two new stands hold but it's well short of 80,000.
 

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I went to epsom at the weekend and their grandstand seemed about 6,000 too.

Everyone else either sets up their camper vans in the inner circle or plonks themselves on the grass surrounding the track. Various temporary marquees, fun fairs etc. all circle the track but the racecourse is esentially just a field with a grandstand next to it.
 

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Aintree:

"More than 27,000 people attended the course, now dominated by two new grandstands offering panoramic views close to the finish line.

The Earl of Derby and the Lord Sefton stands, which can hold an extra 3,000 guests along with 900 restaurant seats and luxury corporate boxes, were officially opened by Lord Derby and Aintree chairman Lord Daresbury."
 

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It just might be the same bloke!

It's not a coincidence that the stand resembles a 'cut-away' section of a jet-engine's cowling.

With seats and stuff inside it...
There was a big new statue put into millenium square in coventry the other day to celebrate his birthday. He was born, grew up and worked in coventry.Just thought u might be interested. lol. You can check out pics of it on

http://www.coventry.gov.uk/ccm/cont...ys-tribute-to-the-father-of-the-jet-engine.en

It is placed under the whittle arches and actually looks great.
 

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Thanks Choggers, downloading application now.

Nice to see work still progressing on this. I believe much of the delay has been in sorting out highways issues. Assuming this revised application addresses those concerns, should be no stopping it?

Actually seeing this today triggered a thought. This site must be no more than a minute or two from the Leigh guided bus-way. The race course will obviously require a large car park (with excellent access to the M60) that will only be used to capacity half a dozen times a year, many of the meets being either at the weekend, or in the evening. Wonder if this could be used for park and ride?
not really, the busway is a good mile away from the carparks at the point where it joins up with the East Lancs Road at Boothstown; and the route from there into the city centre is an ordinary bus lane along the dual carriageway, not a guided alignment

http://www.gmpte.com/pdf/td101A_p1web.pdf
 

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Couldn't find the golf course thread. Another long wait.

Plans hatched for a top-class golf course

13/ 3/2008



PROPOSALS for a new world-class golf course in Salford have been revealed.

The 18 hole, par 72 championship course would include a clubhouse and practice ground on the north side of the Bridgewater Canal on land close to the M60 near Worsley.

The course would be part of Peel Holdings’ existing plans to develop Salford’s Forest Park and would be part of a £100m leisure park which would include a horse-racing track, 6,000 seat grandstand and a hotel.

If planning permission is given this summer it will go to a public inquiry due to its size and green belt location.

However, the enquiry would not be held for at least a year and then, if approved, the scheme would take another three years to build.

Councillor Derek Antrobus, lead member for planning at Salford City Council said: "The application falls within a greenbelt area where development is not normally allowed so it will be very carefully considered later in the year."

However, ambitious plans from Peel to try and bring the Ryder Cup to the golf course have been dismissed by many as far fetched, with the course still in the planning stages.
 

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Councillor Derek Antrobus, lead member for planning at Salford City Council said: "The application falls within a greenbelt area where development is not normally allowed so it will be very carefully considered later in the year."

Translation:

"This is Peel so there should be no problem"
 

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Didn't realise there was any 'green' in Salford!

Couldn't they just clear some slums out of the way for it! Seems like a 'Win Win' situation to me. :lol:




p.s - it was a joke before everyone jumps down me neck!
 

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From Crains.

Peel close to deal for Worsley Hall Garden Centre
By Simon Binns


Peel Holdings is close to tying up a £9m deal for Worsley Hall Garden Centre on Leigh Road in Salford, Crain’s understands.

The centre is close to the site of the Trafford-based developer’s proposed racecourse development in the city and is expected to shut within the next six months.

Nobody from Peel Holdings was immediately available for comment.
 

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We used to get our christmas trees from there. Nice place.
 

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Does anyone know if this is still going ahead?
I'm thinking of moving closer to Manchester with my horse and the Equestrian Centre within the course sounds ideal:)
 
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