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Another misleading header given to what's actually a pretty fair-minded feature. Provides some food for thought.

Every city should have its own Boris

Catalysts for urban renewal: more elected mayors may be the solution to London's dominance
Tim Hames
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/tim_hames/article3871994.ece

It is a Bank Holiday Monday. So how about a quick quiz? What, at the last census, was the third most populous city in the United Kingdom? Manchester, maybe, Liverpool, perhaps, I sense you wondering. No, it is Leeds. How about the fourth largest then? It is Glasgow. The fifth, it must be Manchester or Liverpool surely, but it is Sheffield. And finally the sixth.

Just one shot at this. Hard luck. It is Bradford. Liverpool comes in eighth (behind Edinburgh) and Manchester is ninth (ahead of Bristol). I would have put Newcastle in the top ten but Cardiff, Coventry, Leicester, Belfast and Nottingham all outscore it.

If these answers come as a surprise, you could be forgiven. Because, put bluntly, these cities are an irrelevance. There is only one city that truly counts in this country and that is London. It is not just the largest place in the UK but comfortably the biggest in the whole of the EU.

It will retain that status until Turkey, and through it Istanbul, is awarded membership, so (in my view, alas) it is safe for a fair few decades, if not another century. In 2001, London was (at 7.17 million people) seven times larger than the second city of Birmingham (971,000).

Population estimates since then indicate that the margin had expanded to 7.5 by 2006 and could reach a factor of 8 by 2011.

It is rarely appreciated how unusual this situation is. In France, Paris is a mere 2.5 times the size of its nearest rival (Marseilles). In Germany, Berlin is but twice that of Hamburg. In Italy, the ratio between Rome and Milan is 2:1 as well. In Spain, the same applies to Madrid and Barcelona. In Poland, it also the case for Warsaw and Lodz. With the exception of micro-states, it is hard to find any other similar dominance of one city across the rest across Europe. There is, in fairness, a place that is almost the same. Whether, in the light of events, we deem Austria a sound fellow model is debatable.

So we live in what is universally recognised as a highly centralised country that is overwhelmed to an arguably deeply unhealthy extent by one supersized city. To compound this, what is the sole part of England that enjoys a decent element of decentralised authority? London, the conurbation that lords it over every other city, town or village.

The real significance of the mayoral election in the capital on Thursday was not the identity of the winner. In fairness to Boris Johnson, it was an extraordinary triumph. Like many others I could not imagine how he would see through a lengthy campaign without saying something that would sink himself or being found in bed with half the Arsenal Ladies football team (“Cripes. How did this lot get here? Oh. Who cares?”). David Blaine was lauded last week for holding his breath under water for more than 17 minutes. To my mind, Mr Johnson holding his tongue for more than 17 was far more astonishing.

Yet what truly matters is that this was the year when the mayoralty as an institution came of age. It has taken two terms of Ken Livingstone for Londoners to work out what it does, what it is reasonable to ask from it and for it to attract high- profile contenders across the spectrum. The Scottish Parliament needed an equivalent length of time to take root but under Alex Salmond and the SNP it too has unquestionably done so. The turnout in the capital was 45 per cent, staggering by the standards of local elections, and the media coverage was exhaustive. The expectation of the mayor has become that he should be able to cut crime, recast public transport and frame planning practice in his own fashion.

If a directly elected mayor is beneficial for Londoners, why not other British cities? Well, once bedded in they most certainly would be. Tony Blair's original vision was that where London led, the likes of Birmingham and Leeds would wish to follow. It is absolutely vital that they do so. For if they do not, London will be able to exploit its advantage and become even more omnipresent over the nation.

Why have these other cities not adopted mayors? Simple. Vested interests oppose this. Councillors loathe the idea of being marginalised while one single individual exercises a semi-Napoleonic status. MPs are also not that wild about no longer being the king of the castle in their neighbourhoods. It is an irony of London itself that if the GLC had not been curtly abolished by Margaret Thatcher, then it would probably have been impossible for Mr Blair to have created a directly elected mayor as the GLC would have fought fiercely to prevent this new position sidelining it. If it is left to the councils in Britain's other cities, no new mayors will ever emerge.

That is why, paradoxically, if bottom-up local democracy is to be revived here then top-down action is essential. Mayors can only be established today either at the behest of councils (fat chance, in the main) or via a complicated locally inspired referendum. This is too restrictive. It would be better for both Gordon Brown and David Cameron (and Nick Clegg if he is brave, for his party will not much care for it) to acknowledge that the directly elected mayoralty has shown its worth in London and must be duplicated in the 19 next-biggest cities in the country.

It will take a decade before their impact is evident. It is safe to assume that in time they would be catalysts for urban renewal.

Ten years ago, I wrote a pamphlet for the think-tank Politeia, which examined the American experience of elected mayors and concluded that ministers should allow a mayor of London maximum power. One politician condemned the proposal as “virtually fascist”. I wonder whether, in the light of his experience, Mr Livingstone might reconsider his assessment more sympathetically
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Yes, saw this and agree the writer made some good points, albeit he's possibly rehashing his old conclusions with a 2008 slant. US politricks is structured differently though, and local party organisers don't always toe national party lines, so mayors are often at odds with their councilmen and a lot of time is wasted on in-fighting. Miami's a good example.

Anyway, in the US they even elect judges and dog-catchers, they aren't neccessarily a great role model for political structure.
Although I can see the worth of a mayor, I personally think it's a double-edged sword. As exhibited by Ken Livingstone, a mayor can have a positive influence on a city. However on the other hand, it also has the potential for conflicted situations where the mayor and the ruling party at the Town Hall are of different political persuasions, and therefore have their own agendas to follow. Imagine a Lib Dem council in Liverpool, but with a Labour mayor. There may as well be a hung council if that ever came to pass.

There are also issues with one person having so much control. You also only have to have a glance over in the London forum to see the regulars over there expressing concern about the future growth of their city, and in particular tall buildings. Apparently Boris doesn't do tall buildings so there is now concern about projects currently in planning hitting the skids (The Shard is one I've seen mentioned often), and London being left behind. Would we really want someone like that in Liverpool. We are having enough difficulty as it is attracting high-rise developments without sending out a message that we're anti-tall (although arguably we're doing a good job of that anyway, but I digress).

Should a mayor for Liverpool be given due consideration. Absolutely. Should we plough on regardless ignoring the risks just because it worked out in London? Nope. What works in one place doesn't always work in another, and if Liverpool has proved one thing over the years, it likes to be unique. As such we should investigate the idea, but not be afraid to drop it, even if our neighbours far and wide gain a mayor in their cities.
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I thought that article was actually going to make a point of how council boundaries rarely relate to the real conurbation, but it's point, sadly, was that in the UK, only London matters.

Quite simply, we need our own form of devolution similar to London, containing at least Liverpool, Wirral, Knowsley, Sefton, Halton & St Helens.
Although I can see the worth of a mayor, I personally think it's a double-edged sword. As exhibited by Ken Livingstone, a mayor can have a positive influence on a city. However on the other hand, it also has the potential for conflicted situations where the mayor and the ruling party at the Town Hall are of different political persuasions, and therefore have their own agendas to follow. Imagine a Lib Dem council in Liverpool, but with a Labour mayor. There may as well be a hung council if that ever came to pass.

There are also issues with one person having so much control. You also only have to have a glance over in the London forum to see the regulars over there expressing concern about the future growth of their city, and in particular tall buildings. Apparently Boris doesn't do tall buildings so there is now concern about projects currently in planning hitting the skids (The Shard is one I've seen mentioned often), and London being left behind. Would we really want someone like that in Liverpool. We are having enough difficulty as it is attracting high-rise developments without sending out a message that we're anti-tall (although arguably we're doing a good job of that anyway, but I digress).

Should a mayor for Liverpool be given due consideration. Absolutely. Should we plough on regardless ignoring the risks just because it worked out in London? Nope. What works in one place doesn't always work in another, and if Liverpool has proved one thing over the years, it likes to be unique. As such we should investigate the idea, but not be afraid to drop it, even if our neighbours far and wide gain a mayor in their cities.
Chris, people argued against Scottish and Welsh devolution on the idea that it would be unworkable if there was different ruling parties in these devolved bodies from that of Westminster. People continue to argue this against the idea of a devolved English parliament. If we're talking a city region mayor with assembly, the moyor would have his/her own set of responsibilites, with powers mostly inherited from central government, its regional quangos and the joint metropolitan boards such as Merseytravel. He/she would not be running local councils, so if the city region mayor was Labour, the city council would still be run by the Lib Dems, as things stand today. If you're talking about a mayor for the city council, that would be true, theoretically, although it'd be then upto the mayor and the majority party to find mutual ground and co-operate.
I'd say any approach couldn't work without Ellesmere Port and Neston (which would then demand Chester and Queensferry in to the mix) and Helsby and Frodsham. You start to get to a point were decisions made actually mean something to the region and would be done for the wider regional benefit rather than purely the Liverpool conurbation.
I think the six existing councils, whilst perhaps not ideal, could work fine on their own. Any additional areas could opt in if and when they want to. Currently, Ellesmere Port can't as it's currently under Cheshire. From next year, it'll be in a rather clumsy unitary council area with Chester and Vale Royal, given the clumsy name of Cheshire West and Chester. Whether or not that new council shows interest, like Halton did once it left Cheshire, remains to be seen. The only other bordering areas are Warrington, which has shown little or no interest, Wigan, which would have to defect from Greater Manchester and also seems to have little interest in doing so, and West Lancashire (Ormskirk and Skelmersdale), which probably would be interested but can't do anything about it whilst being in Lancashire. Ideally, I'd like Southport to leave Sefton and join West Lancashire in a new unitary authority. However, if it's only possible with the current six council areas we have now, then we should just get on with it.
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How can Bradford possibly be bigger than Liverpool? How absurd to even publish rubbish like this. Liverpool's conurbation is at least 4 times the size of Bradford's. I know the table reflects only modern day randomly drawn council boundaries that include previously independent towns into the likes of Bradford but exclude 2/3 of Liverpool's suburbs from theirs. But this is what people around the country and world are being led to believe. It is what is being taught in our schools.

As for the make up of the Liverpool City Region, in addition to the 6 Greater Merseyside authorities it simply has to also include next years newly created Chester & West Cheshire and West Lancs (including Southport) to carry any real clout. I realise that both these councils needs to become unitary authorities (which Chester will become) to make this possible but surely their leaders can see the advantages of joining an up and coming dynamic new model of local government (in which their towns are in reality, already key components of). Rather than being stuck in moribund hopelessly out of date county councils, where allegiences have mostly long since changed.

The new City Region should then be given resposiblity for its own policing, fire brigade, transport, waste issues, law courts, further education and business enterprises. It would be a sort of modern day, forward thinking, more business orientated Merseyside County Council.
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