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Mayors Want To Turn Florida Into Two States
NORTH LAUDERDALE (CBS4) ― The City of North Lauderdale is taking a tough stance on home rule, and because of this they are spearheading an effort to split Florida into two states. They have passed a resolution, asking that a boundary line to split South Florida from the rest of the state be drawn at the Palm Beach County line. They're taking it so seriously that they want counties in South Florida, such as Miami-Dade, Broward, and Monroe to join in supporting them.

This is about money and politics. Here's an example: If an orange represents the Florida budget, the mayors of these two South Florida cities say we contribute two slices, but only get one slice back.

"This is South Florida's Boston Tea Party," said Margate Mayor, Pam Donovan.

Mayor Donovan and North Lauderdale Mayor Jack Brady feel like patriots. They are floating the unusual idea to take South Florida's beaches, residents, schools and everything else, and create a South Florida State. The reason is because they say South Florida bears an unequal burden—paying more in taxes than this region gets back.

"Our residents and all of South Florida residents have had enough," said Jack Brady. "We want equal representation for everybody."

In the area of education, Broward and Miami-Dade are bearing the biggest burden of legislative cutbacks. Senior citizens are also seeing cuts in funding.

"We have the highest concentration of elderly down here and they cut back on the elderly spending, they cut back on education."

The mayors want Palm Beach County, Broward, Miami-Dade and Monroe to create their own state. And aside from money, Mayor Donovan questions the judgment of many legislative leaders.

"They made evolution a big priority, but what about the FCAT?" asked Donovan. "That's more of a big priority down here."

No one know is the idea will fly. It would require an act of Congress, but these mayors want other South Florida cities to vote on it. They told CBS4's Carey Codd that it's most important to send a message that they are angry. North Lauderdale passed the resolution, and Margate will consider it on Wednesday.
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As much as I would LOVE to see that happen. I don't think it will.

Although, a great POLITICAL case for the politicians in Congress to looking into this is the ability to split Florida's numbers in the electoral college. Which I suppose could be a good thing...or a bad thing....but...

I don't know...seems like an uphill battle. Unless they keep at it with the "Boston Tea Party" rhetoric and more people begin to listen and agree.
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wow. I would love to see this happen. It would be the same as these little villages like miami shores and el portal to break away from miami and fund their own things because they can make it better. So I say go for it.
They should increase the area of "South Florida". I'd say include Martin County since it is already becoming part of the greater West Palm Beach area. Include Collier County and Lee County as well because Naples & Ft. Myers have much more in common with Broward & Palm Beach than they do with places like Tallahasee & rural north florida. You could probably go up the east coast an include every county up to Vero Beach (Indian River County).

Population figures for my new "South Florida"
2007 pop pop growth since 2000
Miami-Dade: 2,387,170 133,808 (5.9%)
Broward: 1,759,591 136,573 (8.4%)
Palm Beach: 1,266,451 135,267 (11.9%)
Lee: 590,564 149,676 (33.9%)
Collier: 315,839 64,462 (25.6%)
St. Lucie: 260,939 68,244 (35.4%)
Martin: 139,182 12,451 (9.8%)
Indian River: 131,837 18,890 (16.7%)
Monroe: 73,223 -6366 (-8.0%)

Total: 6,924,796 712,985 (11.5%)

"South Florida" would have been the 15th largest state in 2000 (between Massachusetts and Indiana) and would have climbed up to being the 13th largest state in the US in 2007 (between Virginia & Washington). Virginia has 7,712,091 and Washington has 6,468,424.
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I read something like this on stormfront, and they actually liked the idea, but for the wrong reasons. I think you already know what those reasons are.:eek:hno:
young putrid minds

A steady diet of Stormfront and Fox leads to a feeble mind. Try a little NPR for balance.
I like the idea too. It's not a perfect situation, but at first glance it seems like it would solve more problems than it would create. I think this may fall under Art. IV, sec. 3 of the Constitution, which means it would require approval from Congress. Although, a strict reading seems to suggest that it wouldn't, in which case I don't know how you go about splitting a State in two. They did it with Virginia and West Virginia after the Civil War, but those were different times.

More interestingly, I think, if it did happen, would you want to be called South Florida or have a different name for the state?
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A steady diet of Stormfront and Fox leads to a feeble mind. Try a little NPR for balance.
What are you trying to say, son?
More interestingly, I think, if it did happen, would you want to be called South Florida or have a different name for the state?
Yeah, a more cooler name.

How about Mon (Monroe) Pamifort. (Palm Beach, Miami, Fort Lauderdale)

Mon Pamifort.
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Since South Florida is giving more than it's recieving, I am all for the split. There are too many differences between both halves of the state.
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Yeah, a more cooler name.

How about Mon (Monroe) Pamifort. (Palm Beach, Miami, Fort Lauderdale)

Mon Pamifort.
I guess that depends on whether the southern Gulf Coast would be included in South Florida. If it is, Tamiami might be a viable option, although the question then becomes, do you want to live in Miami, Tamiami?

One concern would be for North Florida. It's poorer than South Florida. It could get pushed to the gutter the way Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississppi and Alabama have been.
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If we're going to play make believe, let's at least come up with a decent name. South Florida just isn't cutting it.

I suggest:
Flagler
Biscayne
Sunrise
Columbus
Monroe

We'd probably have to make a concession to the northern neighbors and put the capital in Palm Beach.
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I think the capital should be Fort Lauderdale. It's more central. As far as a state name.......maybe Glades?
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I like the idea too. It's not a perfect situation, but at first glance it seems like it would solve more problems than it would create. I think this may fall under Art. IV, sec. 3 of the Constitution, which means it would require approval from Congress. Although, a strict reading seems to suggest that it wouldn't, in which case I don't know how you go about splitting a State in two. They did it with Virginia and West Virginia after the Civil War, but those were different times.

More interestingly, I think, if it did happen, would you want to be called South Florida or have a different name for the state?
I'm sure a Democrat led congress would love the idea. Splitting up a giant state that has gone Repulican in the last 2 elections into 2 medium size states with one being right leaning and one being more left leaning.
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Name-wise..., I think that North Florida & South Florida would work perfectly just like North Carolina & South Carolina, Virginia & West Virginia, North Dakota & South Dakota...,
Besides..., on those LONG road trips to New York, you'll feel a greater sense of accomplishment when you leave the State of South Florida & enter the State of North Florida...,
^^^^HAHA. And yes, let's just stick with North and South Florida.
Well, I think Miami would be an ideal capital for the new state, if Monroe was considered part of the new state as well, since in that case Miami would be very central as well as being the biggest city.

Also, I'd love to see North Florida become a poorer state than South Florida....those silly ********...:lol:
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This is pretty cool. A few years ago when I volunteered for the Boca Raton Historical Society, I did some research about a time when Boca Raton and Delray Beach tried to separate from Palm Beach County--actually, it happened three times, over the course of 70 years. Unfortunately, they were never successful in their attempts to create "Mizner County", but only literally because they had weak lawyers and politicians backing it.

If South Florida political leaders united together behind this idea, than I actually think there's a fighting chance that we could take this to Congress and present a worthy argument.

Things to consider if South Florida became its own state:
- It would screw up the American flag design.
- Because South Florida leans more democrat than the rest of Florida, there would likely be a huge rise in taxes.
- It would cost a fortune to settle all the legal obligations and name changes that come when things separate (Florida Turnpike? University of South Florida... in Tampa?)

When thinking about capitals, I just want to throw this out there (as I always do)--BOCA RATON, BABY! It's a college town, has a municipal airport, centrally located (PBIA and FLL airports are 20 minutes away, while MIA is only 40 minutes away), and there's a bit more vacant land for state-government facility potential than you might find in WPB, Ft. Lauderdale, or Miami.
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- Because South Florida leans more democrat than the rest of Florida, there would likely be a huge rise in taxes.
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THey wouldnt have to raise taxes since South florida spends much more in taxes to north florida than it receives. Simply keeping all of SFla's taxes local would negate the need for any new taxes and allow for much more services. Now our tax money goes to building airports in the panhandle and freeways in Orlando (our airports and freeways are locally funded of course).
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