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It's all moot point anyway. Fair work ruled that metro's training was adequate.
If only. 48 drivers stood down, 10 services cancelled:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-28/metro-train-drivers-stood-down-as-tram-drivers-go-on-strike/11905738

If the drivers want to present themselves as professional, the professional thing to do would have been to raise this issue not when the lines are due to reopen early disrupting their summer holiday plans, nor even when the lines were closed for works a month ago, but a year or 18 months ago when the plans were announced. Otherwise, if they are not professionals, follow the instructions from those who are.
 

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If only. 48 drivers stood down, 10 services cancelled:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-28/metro-train-drivers-stood-down-as-tram-drivers-go-on-strike/11905738

If the drivers want to present themselves as professional, the professional thing to do would have been to raise this issue not when the lines are due to reopen early disrupting their summer holiday plans, nor even when the lines were closed for works a month ago, but a year or 18 months ago when the plans were announced. Otherwise, if they are not professionals, follow the instructions from those who are.
I suspect it has been raised. Just Metro stick thier fingers in thier ears and don't listen nor care.
Metro's problem is greed.
 

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/yarra-trams-push-for-more-separation-between-trams-and-cars/news-story/6002f541719cf19b213c667c7851ec9e

Yarra Trams push for more separation between trams and cars
Motorists would be blocked from driving on inner city tram tracks in a $42 million bid to slash the number of collisions and improve journey times. See if your commute would be affected.

Tom Minear and Kieran Rooney, Herald Sun


Motorists would be blocked from driving on inner city tram tracks in a $42 million bid to slash the number of collisions and improve journey times.

The Herald Sun can reveal Yarra Trams is planning to install bluestone or concrete kerbs along 38km of busy routes including along Collins, Elizabeth, Flinders and Bourke streets.

Busy inner city thoroughfares including Bridge Rd, Nicholson St, Racecourse Rd and St Kilda Rd would also be targeted for permanent separation.

About 40 per cent of collisions occur on just 15 per cent of track where hard barriers are not used.

Trams and vehicles collide almost three times a day but Yarra Trams predicts installing solid kerbs would prevent about 270 crashes a year.

Busy inner city thoroughfares including Bridge Rd, Nicholson St, Racecourse Rd and St Kilda Rd would be targeted for permanent separation.

But authorities also know the move could create traffic problems for motorists as cars are given less space to park and move.

The company has identified that road authorities may reject changes in some areas if they feel that traffic flow would be impacted.

A Yarra Trams spokeswoman said 75 per cent of the network was shared with cars and other road users, with separation recently increased along Lygon, Nicholson, Williams and Swan streets.

“Trams can’t swerve to avoid collisions, and we ask motorists to be aware when driving on or around tram tracks,” she said.

Yarra Trams expects the plan would reduce the incident rate in treated areas by a massive 80 per cent.

Over the last five years, trams have collided with cars about 1000 times ever year and 10 trams are typically unavailable for peak services due to repairs which then causes frustrating delays and cancellations.

A preliminary business case on the kerb upgrade, prepared for Yarra Trams by GHD Advisory, found bluestone kerbing would cost $42.7 million to install along 38km of tracks.

It would then cost $5000 per year to maintain — compared to $17,000 for plastic strips.

Yarra Trams passenger and network innovation director Emilie van de Graaff said “inadequate maintenance” of plastic strips likely contributed to higher rates of collisions.

A government spokesman said the Department of Transport worked closely with Yarra Trams to assess each project.

“Improved tram separation will continue to be considered as part of the program of road safety improvements that we carry out on a regular basis,” he said.
 

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As this is a PPP isn't the actual cost of this delay being eaten by evolution rail (apart from the embarrassment)?
 

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For all those who want to know what is actually in the BRI Framework document signed by the Victorian Govt here it is.
Its not a secret as the right wing media and the LNP will have you think!
 

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Journos asking questions re: HCMTs, Minister's response just after Premier intro at 24m10s:

Nothing but spin. The trains have issues it's that simple.

I was talking to someone who knows a bit more than I do "They may as well write the cheque now" is what they said in reference to the 150 million penalty.

It's to a point the next timetable will happen. HCMT or not.
 

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Nothing but spin. The trains have issues it's that simple.

I was talking to someone who knows a bit more than I do "They may as well write the cheque now" is what they said in reference to the 150 million penalty.

It's to a point the next timetable will happen. HCMT or not.
Gee, that is blatant denial by Dan and Jacinta to the extreme.

Spoke to who happens to be a train driver (mainly drives Xtrap's but Comeng's sometimes) apparently the HCMT's have severe electrical compatibility issues that have had to be resolved, issues with doors not closing and lining up properly, amongst others.
 

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So it’s basically like every other train that’s been introduced to the network over the years.

bouncy x’traps, slip’n’slide Siemens.... did comeng ever have intro issues? $100 says they probably did, ditto hitachis...
Tell me, which of the above "every other train" fleets had its introduction set back twenty months (and counting!)??????

Even the Waratah's in Sydney (same manufacturer as the HCMT's) were delayed by only 12 months due to the issues they had.

"bouncy x’traps" is merely a (justified) criticism of choosing spring rather than air suspension - Nothing to do with being unfit to pass for introduction.
Yes, the Siemens Nexus did have braking issues, discovered a few years post-introduction.

High Capacity Metro Trains Project Project Summary – February 2017
Table 2: Contract milestone summary
Contract milestone Date

Contract Close 21 November 2016
Financial Close 24 November 2016
Provisional acceptance of the depot 14 December 2018
Provisional acceptance of the 1st HCMT
(commencement of revenue service) 29 March 2019

Provisional acceptance of the Initial Fleet 2 August 2021
Provisional acceptance of the Fleet 18 July 2023
Provisional acceptance of the Project 18 July 2023
Final acceptance of the Fleet 29 January 2024
Maintenance phase 14 December 2018 to 18 July 2053
Contract expiry date 18 July 2053
Two separate links of the same document:
High Capacity Metro Trains Project
https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/file_uploads/HCMTP_Project_Summary__1NypCQKs.pdf
 

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Tell me, which of the above "every other train" fleets had its introduction set back twenty months (and counting!)??????

Even the Waratah's in Sydney (same manufacturer as the HCMT's) were delayed by only 12 months due to the issues they had.

"bouncy x’traps" is merely a (justified) criticism of choosing spring rather than air suspension - Nothing to do with being unfit to pass for introduction.
Yes, the Siemens Nexus did have braking issues, discovered a few years post-introduction.

High Capacity Metro Trains Project Project Summary – February 2017


Two separate links of the same document:
High Capacity Metro Trains Project
https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/file_uploads/HCMTP_Project_Summary__1NypCQKs.pdf
In that project summary there's a bit with the dates of every sets provisional and final acceptance.
There should be 18 trains provisionally accepted with 11 having reached final acceptance.
18 trains should be carrying passengers now.
 

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Nothing but spin. The trains have issues it's that simple.

I was talking to someone who knows a bit more than I do "They may as well write the cheque now" is what they said in reference to the 150 million penalty.

It's to a point the next timetable will happen. HCMT or not.
That will learn them!
 

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Great little bit of info from Rob Barton about the Caulfield to Monash/Rowville light rail project:

Minister for Transport Infrastructure Jacinta Allan’s office has confirmed that the planning for the Caulfield to Monash light rail is largely complete in terms of a route selection but cannot be finalised until a decision is made about the location of the Suburban Rail Loop station at Monash University to ensure the tram and trains connect.

We understand that as soon as the location of the Monash station is confirmed the route of the light rail can be finalised.
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I had wondered if this project had been quietly shelved in favour of the SRL, as we haven't heard a thing about it since planning was announced in 2018. But it sounds like they're waiting for the planning around the SRL Monash Uni precinct before they move forward with it. Makes sense as the tram line can get up quicker and would be a great feeder line for the loop, turning Monash into a real hub.

So it's possible that we'll hear more later this year or when the SRL business case is released next year, though it seems pretty clear this isn't as big of a priority for the government as their other projects.
 

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I'd almost forgotten about that project!

Given the coordination cited, surely this could build a case to extend the Balwyn North/48 Tram to Doncaster and beyond - perhaps out to Donvale so it becomes a feeder for the Doncaster SRL station as well?
 
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