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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...new-mini-suburbs/story-fn7x8me2-1226413894648
Stats for Montague:
50ha / 0.5 square kilometres
up to 25,000 living here, 15,000 working there and 13,000 dwellings.
Three neighbourhoods:
- City Road precinct, mainly low-rise / transition from low-rise South Melbourne/Albert Park, ~300 people/ha (30k people/square km)
- 'Southern Neighbourhood' - mid-rise / Euro-small-urban type development, 40m height limits, 20m podiums with 5m setbacks, ~500 people/ha (50k people/square km)
- 'Northern Neighbourhood' - mid to high-rise, height limits of 60m and 100m closer to West Gate, but that's not likely to be set in stone, ~530 people/ha (53k people/square km).
shitty 'concept' from the HUN
better 'concepts' from City of Port Phillip themselves: http://www.portphillip.vic.gov.au/montague-precinct-structure-plan.htm
City Road precinct
Southern precinct
Northern precinct
Given this is only 1/5 of Fisherman's bend is sets a pretty hefty precedent over the next few decades if Port PHillip adopts something like this - as the majority of the Fisherman's Bend area is in Port Phillip... 25k * 5 = 125k living in ~2.5 square kilometres over a 20-30 timeframe, imagine if that was all in the sprawl belt.
Transport relies on the existing light rail lines, but it'll fail given that ~125k people could live in Fisherman's Bend alone along with ~75k people working there (if the same ratios were applied in all the new Fisherman's bend stages) we're going to need a proper heavy rail metro line.
some of my musings re: what could (should?) happen for PT in the area.
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The planning scheme change means that Fisherman's Bend, E-Gate and Richmond station are effectively going to be treated like how Southbank, Docklands and the CBD are now - obviously with Montague they want something specific, but it pretty much ends up with the ultimate goal of redeveloping industrial areas to fit a shitload of people living and working in the area.
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Other areas we're yet to see much detail (but outside the scope of the recent announcement) is the South Kensington / Wholesale markets & Arden (to be redeveloped when the Melbourne Metro tunnel is built) areas:
South Kensington area with Footscray CAD in bottom left - just a random concept with no real oompf behind it - well at least not publicly at this stage
only a minor render of the potential station in the Arden / North Melbourne area, but given the context it looks like it'll be something somewhere between the likes of the Southern and Northern neighbourhoods in Montague:
IIRC, a further 20-25k people are expected to live in Arden once it's fully redeveloped after the station is built and the new rail link is operating.
Montague's structure plan is open for submission and the City of Port Phillip will make a decision to adopt the following or not later in the year.HUN said:THE central business district has been expanded in the biggest inner city rezoning in the nation's history.
The central city now stretches from Spring St to Williamstown Rd after the Baillieu Government redrew the boundary to include the 240ha Fishermans Bend redevelopment site.
Residents of the new suburbs will have increased rights to object to nightclubs, taverns, brothels and adult bookshops in the area.
Planning Minister Matthew Guy said yesterday that the precinct would eventually house 50,000 people, with 5000 flats worth $1.5 billion expected to be built in the next decade.
This would create 13,500 construction jobs in an area that will add 50 per cent more land to the current CBD comprising the Hoddle grid, Southbank and Docklands.
"This area will be home to high residential towers, modern terraced townhouses, campus-style offices, warehouse lofts, a vertical school, small laneways, local parks, new art galleries and opportunities to work and open a business," he said.
A possible school site is opposite Murphy Reserve on Plummer St, Port Melbourne, while plans are afoot to extend light rail along Williamstown Rd and possibly up Salmon St or Todd Rd to jobs near the Yarra River. Developers will be required to help pay for new public schools and transport links, and the government wants private colleges to move into the precinct.
The new mini-suburbs have already been named - Wirraway, Sandridge, Montague and Lorimer.
Mr Guy will take responsibility for development applications above four storeys, involving more than 60 dwellings, more than 10,000sq m of floor space and worth more than $10 million.
Urban renewal authority Places Victoria will oversee the next 30 years of development.
Stats for Montague:
50ha / 0.5 square kilometres
up to 25,000 living here, 15,000 working there and 13,000 dwellings.
Three neighbourhoods:
- City Road precinct, mainly low-rise / transition from low-rise South Melbourne/Albert Park, ~300 people/ha (30k people/square km)
- 'Southern Neighbourhood' - mid-rise / Euro-small-urban type development, 40m height limits, 20m podiums with 5m setbacks, ~500 people/ha (50k people/square km)
- 'Northern Neighbourhood' - mid to high-rise, height limits of 60m and 100m closer to West Gate, but that's not likely to be set in stone, ~530 people/ha (53k people/square km).
shitty 'concept' from the HUN

better 'concepts' from City of Port Phillip themselves: http://www.portphillip.vic.gov.au/montague-precinct-structure-plan.htm
City Road precinct


Southern precinct


Northern precinct


Given this is only 1/5 of Fisherman's bend is sets a pretty hefty precedent over the next few decades if Port PHillip adopts something like this - as the majority of the Fisherman's Bend area is in Port Phillip... 25k * 5 = 125k living in ~2.5 square kilometres over a 20-30 timeframe, imagine if that was all in the sprawl belt.
Transport relies on the existing light rail lines, but it'll fail given that ~125k people could live in Fisherman's Bend alone along with ~75k people working there (if the same ratios were applied in all the new Fisherman's bend stages) we're going to need a proper heavy rail metro line.
some of my musings re: what could (should?) happen for PT in the area.
___________
The planning scheme change means that Fisherman's Bend, E-Gate and Richmond station are effectively going to be treated like how Southbank, Docklands and the CBD are now - obviously with Montague they want something specific, but it pretty much ends up with the ultimate goal of redeveloping industrial areas to fit a shitload of people living and working in the area.
_______________
Other areas we're yet to see much detail (but outside the scope of the recent announcement) is the South Kensington / Wholesale markets & Arden (to be redeveloped when the Melbourne Metro tunnel is built) areas:

South Kensington area with Footscray CAD in bottom left - just a random concept with no real oompf behind it - well at least not publicly at this stage

only a minor render of the potential station in the Arden / North Melbourne area, but given the context it looks like it'll be something somewhere between the likes of the Southern and Northern neighbourhoods in Montague:

IIRC, a further 20-25k people are expected to live in Arden once it's fully redeveloped after the station is built and the new rail link is operating.