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"Steep" toll fees aside, no toll collection until all ramps mapa NB / SB are 100.00% completed? Goodluck nalang kay RSA nito. There's no pile boring at the A. Bonifacio SB on-ramp yet.
 

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"Steep" toll fees aside, no toll collection until all ramps mapa NB / SB are 100.00% completed? Goodluck nalang kay RSA nito. There's no pile boring at the A. Bonifacio SB on-ramp yet.
I wonder if TRB and SMC will debate the level of ramp completion required for SMC to be allowed to finally collect toll. Or if this is just a tactic by TRB to get them off the PHP274 number
 

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^^ Yeah, baka a tactic to lower the toll fees.

Kasi lugi naman na SMC diyan, ginagamit na ng motorista tapos hindi nila nababawi yung insane construction costs...eh meron ng O&M costs yan sa tao, aspalto, lighting, etc...
 

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Based on the recent TRB statements, doesn't look like SS3 will collect toll until all of the under-construction ramps have been finished.
Kung aantayin pa yung mga ramp na matapos lahat baka matagalan pa yan dahil may mga ramp na may nakaharang na poste na kailangan irelocate.

regarding sa insane construction cost, sino ba kasi yung [email protected] na mga engineers na nag-estimate nyan tapos sisingilin sa mataas na tollfee yung incompetence ng mga nagplano nyan
 

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Where are they planning to put the additional ramps kaya? Sana southbound entry and northbound exit near aurora boulevard for san juan residents.
 

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Where are they planning to put the additional ramps kaya? Sana southbound entry and northbound exit near aurora boulevard for san juan residents.
This link has the list of ramps:


The six ramps listed as planned, rather than under construction:

1. Southbound onramp from Osmena Highway near Quirino Avenue
2. Northbound offramp towards Osmena and Roxas Boulevard (this may be the Skyway Stage 3 - Quirino Extension seen in SMC's NMIA expressway plan map)
3. Northbound onramp, Pandacan (Tomas Claudio/NLEX Connector)
4. Southbound offramp, Pandacan (Tomas Claudio/NLEX Connector)
5. Northbound offramp, Valenzuela Street, tied into the Pandacan listing above
6. Southbound offramp, Valenzuela Street, tied into the Pandacan listing above

I've interpreted #5 and #6 as essentially Santa Mesa access from NLEX Connector, thus providing northbound Skyway drivers their route into Santa Mesa, and drivers from that area a way towards the Skyway.
 

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after several hours of image editing, created from scratch a Straight Line Diagram of the Skyway from Susana Heights to NLEX and towards NMIA, including some of the interchanges either under construction now or shown in OpenStreetMap. (Straight line diagrams are schematics I've seen from state departments of transportation in the US, to help visualize distances between interchanges and interchange layout). Really emphasizes how packed the Magallanes-Buendia and Quirino-Tomas Claudio portions of the highway are.

 

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Source DPWH website
  • · Ramps ongoing construction:
  • 1. RS3 – Southbound Off-Ramp Plaza Dilao
  • 2. RS3’ – Southbound Off-Ramp United Nations
  • 3. RN3 – Northbound Off-Ramp Nagtahan
  • 4. RN3-1 – Northbound On-Ramp Nagtahan
  • 5. RS3-1 – Southbound Off-Ramp Nagtahan
  • 6. RN4 – Northbound On-Ramp Araneta/N Domingo
  • 7. RN5 – Northbound On-Ramp Araneta/Landargun
  • 8. RS5 – Southbound Off-Ramp Araneta/Bayani
  • 9. RN8 – Northbound Off-Ramp to C3
  • 10. RS8 – Southbound On-Ramp from C3
  • 11. RS8-1 – Southbound Off-Ramp to C3
  • 12. RS9 – Southbound On-Ramp Balintawak/Ayala (with utilities obstruction)
  • 13. RN9 – Northbound Off-Ramp Balintawak/Ayala

  • · Ramps under planning:
  • 1. RS2 – Southbound On-Ramp Quirino~Osmeña
  • 2. RN2” – Northbound Off-Ramp Osmeña~Roxas Blvd.
  • 3. RN4 – Northbound On-Ramp Pandacan
  • 4. RS4 – Southbound Off-Ramp Pandacan
  • 5. RN4’ – Northbound Off-Ramp Valenzuela St.
  • 6. RS4’ – Southbound On-Ramp Valenzuela St.
 

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Kung aantayin pa yung mga ramp na matapos lahat baka matagalan pa yan dahil may mga ramp na may nakaharang na poste na kailangan irelocate.

regarding sa insane construction cost, sino ba kasi yung [email protected] na mga engineers na nag-estimate nyan tapos sisingilin sa mataas na tollfee yung incompetence ng mga nagplano nyan
Kaya tumaas ng husto ang cost ng construction ay dahil sa right of way, hindi iyon kontrolado ng mga engineers, habang nagtatagal nag aapreciate ang halaga ng property, masyadong mabagal kumilos ang mga nakaraang administrasyon kaya nagkapatong patong ang problema, matagal ng nagawa ang plano at marami ng nagbago.
 

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Flood on Ilog Section approaching SM Centerpoint taken and experienced by myself this afternoon. Baha rin sa SB approaching double deck. Probably dahil di pa tapos 100% yung works.
Dami pang segments sa S3-S5 ang ongoing padin ang drainage works.
 

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^^ Yeah, baka a tactic to lower the toll fees.

Kasi lugi naman na SMC diyan, ginagamit na ng motorista tapos hindi nila nababawi yung insane construction costs...eh meron ng O&M costs yan sa tao, aspalto, lighting, etc...
The insane amount is still not justified dahil soft opening paren to, sobrang daming inaayos at tinatapos the entire line is still construction zone. Isara nalang nila kase yung main line ng matapos na lahat ng kulang
 

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I can see the toll dispute between TRB, the public, and SMC on all of their perspecties:

- TRB absolutely notices that there is much of Skyway Stage 3 that remains unfinished, and that key access points (Santa Mesa, Nagtahan, Caloocan, A. Bonifacio heading towards EDSA) are not open, thus making it hard to get a full sense of the utility of the road.

- SMC wanted to get the mainline opened before 2021 hit, to fulfill their marketing promises from October (as well as acknowledging how far behind the project had gotten due to the Pandacan fire and the pandemic). They also spent their own money to make the key San Juan River section happen - notice that no construction at all for the PUP right of way has commenced, which is now being repurposed to link to the NLEX Connector. And they view SS3 as essentially the start of their grand plan for NMIA. Also, in theory (once all the ramps have opened), no toll or too low of one could eventually lead to congestion if the Skyway completely supplants EDSA as the main north-south road between Balintawak and Makati.

- The public really likes the road for the most part (just look at all those Youtube videos where the vloggers run a stopwatch between Balintawak and Buendia!) after years of contending with EDSA's design and commercial zoning deficiencies, but also is not in a position to pay PHP274 for a daily commute, each way. PHP274 is about $5.70 at current exchange rates, and that is now painfully similar to tolls in the US (i.e. Bay Area bridge tolls of $7) - tolls that are usually only collected in one commute direction!

It's like the dilemma for how much an arena or stadium or auto racing track should charge for sporting events or a concert - one can get a sellout by charging nothing or a nominal fee, but not make back the costs required to hold the event. But too high and people will opt not to go at all. Given the success this project has had in making a dent on years of EDSA congestion, I strongly believe that SMC should understand that getting as many people as possible to use the road will pay for itself, even if the initial costs in the 2017-2020 construction period were higher than originally anticipated.
 

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Just revised my straight line diagram graphic for the Skyway. Added the city names on here as well - IMO, one of the issues with the sparse presence of signs between Alabang and Magallanes is that the lack of pullthroughs and other identifying markers makes that straight bit of road very visually repetitive.

 

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1/25/2021 - Ongoing dredging activities along Tullahan River in Fairview, Quezon City. Perhaps this is connected to the upcoming Skyway Stage 3 - NMIA Expressway via Tullahan (apologies for crappy shot).

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Kaya pala hindi pa nila tinatapos ng buo yung toll gates hehehehe. Sana nga lower than 274. Kung mga 150 to 200, ok na siguro at reasonable na, but more than that, baka ma-discourage talaga mga tao.
Baka ploy ito ng smc. They have plan a and b, if makalusot ang 274 well and good, but they really have a price that they are comfortable with. If naapprove ang plan b nila( for example: 249 pesos) it gives a perception na mas mura ang babayaran nila vs. The first one and mas gaganahan ang mga tao to use it.
 

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Nice drone footage of Skyway Stage 3 around Sgt. Rivera, Del Monte, Quezon Avenue, Santa Mesa Heights, San Juan River and Pandacan:

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earlier in the thread Bruno14 mentioned some flooding issues on the road. Here's some brief footage of more flooding along the Skyway, at the beginning of this video (which then shows footage of other segments of the road)

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Looks like the segment of Skyway Stage 3 from Cloverleaf mall to NLEX now has multiple lanes open:
 

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I was surprised of the heavy rainfall kahapon. Sa Alabang maaraw pagdating ko sa Quirino grabe ang buhos ng ulan!
 
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