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Miami's New Central Station, Expansion of Metrorail, Metromover, light rail, Tri Rail

anyways i believe that since Miami is growing really big as i see it all the time its growing and that is cool because Miami will have the Metrorail expansions and will grow big like the LA Metro and such

well also the Tri Rail is looking for expansions as well for the system to grow and also the metromover and Light Rail will begin here in Miami as well and the people mover might get expanded as well Miami will be the King of Mass Transit here in Florida

also the Central Station will be huge like the grand central of Miami where High Speed Rail, Amtrak, Tri Rail, Metrorail, People mover to airport, buses and all that including the Car Rental Faclity will be constructed cool huh
 

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anyways this is Golden Glades station for the Tri Rail and i use it to transfer to the metrorail to go to downtown Miami to hop on the metromover to go to my college

anyways i like this station because it passes the Tri Rail, CSX Freight and Amtrak passes by this Station and Amtrak goes very fast passing this station fast and its cool with the clickity clack and the wind wooshing cool
 

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The ridership is modest 61.000. Why people don't like to use it?
The Miami Metrorail does not serve alot of areas (except for Brickell, Downtown, and in the future the airport). Plus since South Florida is very car orientated most people just find it easier to drive to their destination.
 

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^^ Apparently this is the plague that affects all mass transit in the USA except Manhattan and maybe DC... they build good lines with good stations but the system simply does not cater to the demand in the cities...
 

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http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/12/miamis-long-sought-plans-for-metro-extensions-dissolve-as-funding-disappears/

Miami’s Long-Sought Plans for Metro Extensions Dissolve as Funding Disappears

Yonah Freemark

July 12th, 2010

» Northern extension to Broward County line to be pulled out of federal New Starts process as limited tax revenues hit home. A reconsideration of priorities was in order anyway.

Miami-Dade County voters were promised way too much when they were asked to endorse a half-cent sales tax increase for better transit back in 2002. Not only would they get much more bus service, but also the construction of two new Metrorail extensions, more than doubling the size of the system by 2020.

Suffice it to say that despite electoral approval of the funding source, little has improved. Thanks to a reduction in tax receipts seen across the country and corruption within the transit agency, bus offerings have been cut back to levels not much different than those available around ten years ago. The one Metrorail line that has entered construction, the 2.4-mile AirportLink, has seen its cost double to more than half a billion dollars and its opening date delayed to April 2012.

Miami’s first and only Metrorail corridor opened in 1984 and now includes 22 miles of service to about 70,000 daily riders.

After a year of confusion about the status of the full “Orange Line,” which would have eventually included links west to Florida International University and north to the Broward County line, Miami-Dade County’s manager has announced that he will remove the project from the federal New Starts applicant pool. The County has been unable in recent years to convince Washington of the merits of the project, thanks both to difficulties assuring local support for transit operations and low projected ridership numbers; it has repeatedly received medium-low ratings from the Federal Transit Administration, making it unable to qualify for aid. In addition, the county’s sales tax revenues have been too low to even support a “light” bus rapid transit program along the NW 27th Avenue corridor where trains were supposed to go.

The North extension, also known as Orange Line Phase II, would have cost $1.6 billion and carry about 23,000 daily riders along 9.5 miles of tracks, a miserable investment-to-return ratio. The even more expensive 10.6-mile East-West line has been assumed to be dead for years.

This is bad, albeit unsurprising, news for Miami, which has been particularly hard hit by the recession. And it’s not alone: Other cities, including Dallas and Charlotte, are suffering similar fates. Nonetheless, the fact that Miami now must reevaluate both its transit funding system and its future priorities could lead to better thinking about cost-effective ways to advance the future of the city’s public transportation. It could also force local leaders to push for more sustainable funding.

The problem with Miami’s decision-making when it developed the Orange Line program ten years ago was that it envisioned very expensive metro service to areas that do not have the passenger demand for much more than upgraded buses. The low ridership estimates for the North corridor attest to the fact that areas to which extensions would run are of relatively low densities, with few big user generators along the route. Meanwhile, potentially more attractive routes through the county’s most populated areas, including along the waterfront and to places like Miami Beach and Little Havana, were simply not considered priorities by a board skewed towards the needs of the county’s north and west sides.

Moreover, the project was pursued without serious thinking as to how the system would work in the long term. Because both extensions would have been from sections of the existing system north of downtown, the Metrorail line would have become seriously unbalanced, with far more service needed to northern destinations than to areas south of downtown, causing operational difficulties. Even the first section to the airport, a one-station spur, will produce some difficulties, since Miami doesn’t have the funds to increase service dramatically and trains already only run every seven to eight minutes at rush hour and every 30 minutes on weekends. How attractive can an airport link be to customers who are forced to wait more than half an hour for a train?

The county does not have the funds to ponder major transportation projects at the moment, though it could focus on simple and cheap bus improvements like installing signal priority at intersections, improving customer information displays, and marking off dedicated lanes. These require no significant spending, just good management. Does Miami-Dade have what it takes?

Once the economy recovers and county board members wake up to the benefits of increased spending on public transportation, though, there should be a countywide rethink about the best way to use varying modes of transit. In the past, I’ve suggested that routes into Midtown and Miami Beach likely could garner enough passengers to merit the installation of cheap street-running light rail (though probably not Metrorail). In other areas, bus rapid transit is sufficient. But until the county’s back on its financial feet, nothing is going to be built.
 

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^^ Apparently this is the plague that affects all mass transit in the USA except Manhattan and maybe DC... they build good lines with good stations but the system simply does not cater to the demand in the cities...
Mass Transit Systems in places like DC, NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, San Francisco tend to be more used since those cities grew up before the rise of the automobile so they were more dense (ie more walkable) to begin with.

Most of the cities you see in Florida, Atlanta, Texas, etc grew up when having your own car was gaining more popularity so you don't tend to see alot of people taking transit in those areas.
 

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Miami between the most touristic places in the world, until Miami Beach wouldn't be linked with downtown/university/airport with metro, it will continue being underused.

there must be a particular interest why this isn't even planned in the short term
 

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Most of the cities you see in Florida, Atlanta, Texas, etc grew up when having your own car was gaining more popularity so you don't tend to see alot of people taking transit in those areas.
And all of those states/cities have TERRIBLE traffic problems. Miami is routinely one of the top five cities in terms of traffic congestion.

Wedding itself to the automobile has not been beneficial to the South.

At least Dallas has been aggressive in expanding it's light rail system.
 

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Well, atleast LA is trying. We just got a voter approved tax increase that will bring whole bunch of new projects coming. I think everyone in LA knows driving to Downtown pretty much sucks, and I would love to use rail no matter how much I love my car. Sorry to see Miami lose it's funding.
 

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Well to be fair Houston has been expanding their system, and Austin & Phoenix just installed light rail as well.
BTW,what about Miami's light rail plans?I found some info (it was put few months ago) that this project was accepted and Miami will receive funds for light rail. How looks this situation for today?

Sorry for OT,but there's no thread about Miami's light rail ;)
 

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The subway cars look identical to the Budd Cars on Baltimore's subway line. The drafters of Miami's subway plan apparently did not account for all the free parking in Miami. I remember reading when the subway was being built, the city added thousands of free parking spaces to the city.
 

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The subway cars look identical to the Budd Cars on Baltimore's subway line. The drafters of Miami's subway plan apparently did not account for all the free parking in Miami. I remember reading when the subway was being built, the city added thousands of free parking spaces to the city.
That's because Miami and Baltimore ordered the cars for their system's together in order to save money.
 
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