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Check it out from the Miami Herald :eek2: !!

It's on the front page of http://www.miami.com. Click on the banner on top!
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Very well done, had a couple of projects I had never heard of
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I'm surprised that there's some "new" buildings that are new to me, such as Park Place in Brickell. Where did all this come from? Miami's real estate boom in downtown/brickell/edgewater/midtown is bigger than I thought!
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/11698211.htm

Then there is the other factor, anecdotal and unquantifiable: the speculator.

''As much as 85 percent of all condominium sales in [downtown Miami] are accounted for by investors and speculators,'' housing analysts at investment firm Raymond James warned in a March report.

Banks have started to back off lending on condo projects, or have instituted new rules to avoid giving mortgages to investors.

Spiegelman sold the condo units in the Marina Blue condo going up on Biscayne Boulevard.

''One hundred percent of the buyers were investors and speculators,'' he said. ``Anyone who tells you their projects are different are deluding themselves.'"
Some skeptics, noting the high condo prices and the out-of-town provenance of buyers, fear that instead of the diverse, working 24-hour downtown that city leaders envision, the boom will instead create a seasonal playground for the rich, a Monte Carlo on Biscayne Bay.

''I bet those buildings are going to be empty a lot of the time,'' said Joel Kotkin, an urban historian and consultant who has written about the rise of what he calls ''ephemeral cities'' -- places like San Francisco, Berlin and parts of New York that increasingly cater to the rich, the childless young and tourists.

''Maybe this is Miami's karma, to be this kind of place, a temporary, hip, cool, nomadic population serviced by a poor population,'' said Kotkin, author of The City: A Global History. But, he added: ``History shows a city has to maintain some sense of a middle-class character if it wants to thrive.''
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^ Thanks for making sure we heard from the hand-whringers.
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That's great. Why is the 330 Biscayne project only 659ft tall!? Did I miss something?
lauderdalegator said:
That's great. Why is the 330 Biscayne project only around 650ft tall. Did I miss something?
Likely based on old information.
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The projects were likely chopped by the FAA. There were articles around the time the 1200 foot empire world project came out that mentioned buildings on biscayne being limited to 650ft.
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^ Thanks for making sure we heard from the hand-whringers.
There was another article in the herald today that was nothing but complaints. It's been a long pattern.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/11698217.htm

These are just great big cash registers'

By ANDRES VIGLUCCI

[email protected]

Buildings speak.

To Vincent Scully, the eminent architecture critic and historian, the best ones speak eloquently of human aspirations and human experience.

But on a bright recent morning, as Scully viewed the expanding skyline of downtown Miami and Brickell from an overlook on Virginia Key, the buildings stood mute.

''It's getting to look like one big megastructure. There's just so much of it. What can you say?'' Scully said, wagging his hands over the mass of skyscrapers across the water as if to conjure up its meaning.

Finally the words came in a rush.

''It's daring, greed, vitality, optimism . . . enormous confidence,'' Scully said. ``This is still an American frontier town. This is globalization.''

As he picked out individual towers and contemplated the multiplicity of cranes portending more and bigger buildings, Scully found little to love.
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The 659 ft. figure for 330 Biscayne was mentioned in various articles *prior to* the announcement of the Empire World project.

I suspect the Herald is just lazy.
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logybogy said:
The projects were likely chopped by the FAA. There were articles around the time the 1200 foot empire world project came out that mentioned buildings on biscayne being limited to 650ft.
Logybogy :) , this comment is not about you , But this is B--- S--- !!! :bash:

p.s. I still say the City of Miami can VETO the F.A.A. :bash: there's got to be a Solution to this 9/11 Freakin scare of the F.A.A. :bash: , and its got to stop , Now !!! :cheers:
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^ I'm fairly sure this is laziness on the part of the Herald.
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sweet. i saw in yesterday's herald that they were gonna do this for sunday's edition, so i didn't expect to see anything about it today.

looks like the info comes directly from the city's large scale development report that we've been checking. that's why 330 biscayne is listed at 659 ft., since the last report had it listed as that. they should be updating the report soon (hopefully the May report will have it) to show the new height, all 1,200x2 glorious feet!

now let's get these projects built!
^ No, let's wring our hands and wonder how they can possibly be built. :cheers:
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Dale said:
^ I'm fairly sure this is laziness on the part of the Herald.
not only lazy, but not terribly sharp either. they were the one's who broke the story about the 1,200 ft. towers. you'd think they'd realize that 330 biscayne is the same project, just updated. especially since they put a pic of the new 1,200 footers in this flash presentation, but listed them at 659 ft.
pics of some of the projects we hadn't seen yet:

600 Biscayne-what the hell is the circular thing in the upper right of the pic?


Cardinal Symphony-this is gonna be across from or at least near the omni, right?


The Ellipse-i think hatter posted a pic of this from the commission meetings.


Paramount Park-i think this one's a little different than what we've seen. or not, i dunno.
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Everyone :) , If these two 330 biscayne blvd Towers don't get built at 1,000 feet or above, Then We :) the Members of the Miami Forum will Never see a 1,000 foot Tower in our city of Miami in our lifetime !!!, I guareentee that as a true fact from me, These two towers are !, and Only the last chance for us to see a 1,000 foot tower rise in our City of Miami, and I quote that to myself. :cheers:
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dave, that's the world's largest Reese's Peanut Butter Cup on top of 600 Biscayne.

Of course the FAA will probably squawk about it.

I like the design though. That and Cardinal Symphony.
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