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I've been recently (April) in Belarus, one of the less known European countries. It's usually hard to find information about this country, except some bad news about its president Lukashenko, and it's also hard to find recent (and decent) pictures of its towns. So here are some pictures of this quite big country (like UK), starting from the capital, Minsk.

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Very interesting, thank you!
Any info on this building?
I looked on Emporis but I couldn't find it... it's very close to the National Library (the strange building you see in the pics around this), but I have no news about that skyscraper, which looks rather new and nice.
 

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Commieblocks are typical of all eastern-Europe. Unfortunately Minsk was destroyed almost at 100% during WWII so there are more than in other places (and very big ones), but at least most of them are very well kept/restored, unlike in most of the other former socialist countries...
 

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the city looks nice, but at the same time it looks very empty and boring...
That's my fault, I've the bad habit/ability to take pics without people! :D In reality Minsk is really a lively city, full of young people out every night, and by day too... It's not chaotic anyway, also because streets are so large that it's almost impossible to have a traffic jam (cars are also not so many like in Western EU, but most of them are quite modern ones, better than in the neighbour countries).
 

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Yeah, tidy and clean, that's the fist thing you notice in Belarus, everything is incredibly tidy and clean, like in Switzerland! :D And then police and army people everywhere, at least in the capital. Surely you feel safe, I never felt in danger for a single moment (and it doesn't happen often in a 1,7mil people city!), but at the same time you feel a bit "oppressed" by all those police/army people expecially if you are one of the very few tourists walking around with a camera. Walking around Lukashenko's palace was quite a surrealistic experience, there was no car (very large streets there too, of course) and almost no people walking there, only armed people watching me! :D But I didn't take any picture, I still take care about my life! :)
 

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Yeah, tidy and clean, that's the fist thing you notice in Belarus, everything is incredibly tidy and clean, like in Switzerland! :D And then police and army people everywhere, at least in the capital. Surely you feel safe, I never felt in danger for a single moment (and it doesn't happen often in a 1,7mil people city!), but at the same time you feel a bit "oppressed" by all those police/army people expecially if you are one of the very few tourists walking around with a camera. Walking around Lukashenko's palace was quite a surrealistic experience, there was no car (very large streets there too, of course) and almost no people walking there, only armed people watching me! :D But I didn't take any picture, I still take care about my life! :)
Reading Ur impressions and seeing the pics it seems that Belarus is another victim of the so called "free journalism" because of their unappropriate government. I don't say it's all fine with Lukashenko, that he's not a loon and all. But with the already seen formula, pamflets where the negative sides are multipled by 100 while the positive ones are ignored are served to the wider public of the so called democratic world. That's why most of us would have a stereotype of this dirt poor country, underdeveloped in most aspects without knowing any better. Other countries are victims of the same "free unbiased journalism". For example Iran. One just has to go to the Iranian section of SSC and see what a metropolis Teheran is altough most of us would imagine it to be no better than war thorn Kabul or Kandahar.
 

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I totally agree with you dewrob. Even if I'm much interested in Belarus and looked for much of information (but only in English or Italian, I don't know Russian) before I left, I was very surprised, in a positive way, when I saw it with my eyes. And I was hosted in families so it was also even more interesting to see how people live and to talk with them about their country and of course about their president, who is everywhere and all the time on TV! :D
People in Minsk usually don't support Lukashenko and they miss not much freedom, but the lack of possibilities for private business... ;) That's why most of them prefer Russia. Other people, instead, prefer Lukashenko to Putin (even if they don't like both) since in Belarus, at least in cities, they have a standard of living which is not bad for almost all the population, it's still very socialistic from this point of view. People inthe countryside are big fans of Lukashenko and probably they are right, without the "kolkoz" they'd probably die of hunger...
Few people feel like "proud Belarusians", speak Belarusian and are 100% agains Lukashenko's regime. They are usually some intellectuals, like Milinkevich, the former candidate for president, a very clever and good person but not one who can convince the population to make a revolution. Expecially after seeing what's left of the Orange Revolution in nearby Ukraine. And having visited both the countries very recently I can say Belarus looks much better than Ukraine. At least they have stability, no "ethnic" problems and quite an equal standard of living. For quite a poor country I think they are the most impotant values these days. Hoping of course to see more democracy and freedom too.

Of course I don't support Luka, as you can see from my avatar and signature, but yeah it's true, it's not so bad like the "free press" want us to think...
 

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Reading Ur impressions and seeing the pics it seems that Belarus is another victim of the so called "free journalism" because of their unappropriate government. I don't say it's all fine with Lukashenko, that he's not a loon and all. But with the already seen formula, pamflets where the negative sides are multipled by 100 while the positive ones are ignored are served to the wider public of the so called democratic world. That's why most of us would have a stereotype of this dirt poor country, underdeveloped in most aspects without knowing any better. Other countries are victims of the same "free unbiased journalism". For example Iran. One just has to go to the Iranian section of SSC and see what a metropolis Teheran is altough most of us would imagine it to be no better than war thorn Kabul or Kandahar.
i couldn´t agree more.
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Carletto how long did you stay in Ukraine obviously you dont know anything about Ukraine. Starting from architecture all the way to orange revolution.

P.S. Never compare Belaruss to Ukraine!
 
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