[Tuscani01]

So the province put in its 1/3rd, the city is ready to put in its 1/3rd, but it doesnt look like the feds put in their 1/3rd... what happens now? Will 2/3rds of the system be built until the final 1/3rd can be found... or will it just be a flop again?

 

[phunky]

probably will just go on as planned the same way the ttc plans on going ahead with their extension to york region.

 

[Gil]

probably will just go on as planned the same way the ttc plans on going ahead with their extension to york region.

I was thinking about that. COuldn't both the TTC and MT start their respective projects with the 2/3 funding they have and in the mean time save up 1/6 each to pay for the remainder of the project. If and when the Feds ever cough up the money they can use it replace the 1/6 each party used to complete the project.

In terms of the York U subway to Vaughan City Centre, how much is York Region going to pay? Since the unannounced section would be entriely within York Region, couldn't they pony up the cost of the line from Steeles to Hwy. 7? Meaning the TTC can go ahead with their plans to Steeles West (which is roughly 2/3 of the extension to Hwy. 7 anyway).

 

[jeicow]

Depending on who you to listen the money is either there or not. Flaherty sent the letter to Duncan saying that all money for the subway would be there before the feds announced their budget. I think that the the Transitway already has the money from my interpretation of the budget and I doubt that the city would delay construction if the money isn't there. Let's face it, this project has been on the books for over 35 years (predating Hazel's reign- yes there was a time before Hazel) so I think the city is eager to get it started. The part that sucks though is that this will only be the eastern section. Once everything is done I'll begin to celebrate.

 

[phunky]

GREAT NEWS!

THE MISSISSAUGA NEWS
Ottawa kicks in funds for Transitway


Radhika Panjwani
Mar 3, 2007

The federal government is set to announce it will pitch in its share of $65 million for the much awaited, but long delayed, Mississauga Transitway.
The announcement will be made next week.

The City already has received $65 million from Queen's Park for the project and has earmarked $ 66.5 million for the bus lanes that will extend along Hwy. 403 and Eastgate Pkwy., from Burnhamthorpe Rd. to Eglinton Ave. E.

Director of Transportation and Infrastructure Wendy Alexander from the City of Mississauga told The News that both the province and the City had paid up their share of the total cost, but Ottawa had yet to come through.

“The BRT piece is essentially waiting for a signal from the federal government,” Alexander said. “We were hoping to receive funding through the latest federal budget, which we clearly did not receive. We're talking with the federal government to see if we can get that process moving more quickly.”

The 16-kilometre, 16 station route will travel from Ninth Line (Ridgeway) in the west along Hwy. 403 to Cawthra Rd. From Cawthra Rd., the bus route will travel along Eastgate Pkwy. to Eglinton Ave. W. into Toronto and end at Eglinton West subway station.

The BRT stations would consist of platforms, pedestrian walkways, Kiss & Ride areas and Park & Ride lots.

The BRT will carry 5-10 thousand people per peak hour.

 

[Tuscani01]

I forgot about this thread...

So in the news article it says it will connect with Eglinton West subway station...

Is that a mistake? Traffic on Eglinton is INSANE during rush hour. It will take over an hour to get to Eg-West.

I live 10 minutes away from the station yet it takes over half an hour to get to it during rush hour.

 

[phunky]

I forgot about this thread...

So in the news article it says it will connect with Eglinton West subway station...

Is that a mistake? Traffic on Eglinton is INSANE during rush hour. It will take over an hour to get to Eg-West.

I live 10 minutes away from the station yet it takes over half an hour to get to it during rush hour.

Hmm I dunno. I thought that was strange as well. It makes sense though. And also the transitway is supposed to be a seperate road entirely. There is no room for that in many places on Eglinton once in Toronto...

 

[jeicow]

^ The Eglinton West portion from what I know (unless it changed) is suppose to be part of the larger GO Transit BRT Plan and is suppose to be a tunneled BRT line (my guess instead of the Eglinton West line which at one point was suppose to run all the way to the Mississauga Border when fully extended). From what I know, Mississauga will be letting off at the New Kipling Terminal. I'm not sure the exact route the buses are suppose to get there but I believe that part of the GO plan calls for HOV/Bus only lanes on the 427 but who knows.

 

[Tuscani01]

Good news from the Star this morning regarding the transitway...

"In Mississauga, Mayor Hazel McCallion cautioned the busway planned for her city won't be ready until 2009."

 

[jeicow]

Now the question is whether that's the full busway or only the section the city is respondsible for and add on the delays that will plauge construction (let's be honest, nothing ever comes in on time) and the cost overruns and it should probably be ready in early 2011. I hope they go full out on the stations though and create some buildings we can be proud of. Basically, we just have to make sure they avoid whoever designed the City Centre Terminal who was smart enough to decided two single person escalators, and three sets of door into the building would be sufficent enough until 2015. But good news that this is all finally happening (hopefully).

 

[phunky]

Wow ready by 2009. Wasn't it just a few weeks ago that we were looking at a 2010 or later date?

I think 2009 is totally feasible. Building a road doesn't take that long. And if they're building all the stations at the same time it will totally work. All the plans are probably already made. Just the actual work needs to start.

 

[ssiguy2]

Is this going to be a true Transitway like Ottawa's or just fancy buses on bus-only lanes, although admittedly that would too help?

 

[Tuscani01]

Is this going to be a true Transitway like Ottawa's or just fancy buses on bus-only lanes, although admittedly that would too help?

It will be a seperate roadway dedicated to buses... with stations, kiss n ride, and park and ride facilities.

 

[carpanatomy]

some more details on Mississauga Transitway

http://transit.toronto.on.ca/gotransit/2109.shtml

 

[Tuscani01]

I wonder if the funding for the transitway includes money for buses. Will the city be ordering new buses for the transitway, or does it just plan on using what we have?

 

[jeicow]

The current funding doesn't include a lot. The City wants 30 articulated buses (about $750,000 each) but those aren't included. They're including bus ramps at most stations so that local buses can use it (well, local to express) It also doesn't include the full grade seperated "road" between Mavis and Erin Mills. From the sounds of it, the buses will use the current bus lanes on the 403 instead, which will be interesting to see. I imagine this seciton being one of the most expensive parts of it, considering that a brdige for the Credit River and Valley will be $$$ as anything, and will likely face opposition from environmentalists (thank god most live in TO tho :-D )

 

[doady]

15 hybrid articulated buses will be ordered for the transitway.

Edit: wow, this thread is really old, which just shows how long the city has been waiting for the funding, fucking Conservatives.

 

[Tuscani01]

fucking Conservatives.

huh?

It should be thankyou conservatives for finally giving the money.

 

[doady]

Yeah they are only 1 year late and for a long time it was uncertain whether the money would come at all.

 

[Tuscani01]

Yeah they are only 1 year late and for a long time it was uncertain whether the money would come at all.

1 year vs. the how many years it took for the Liberals to deliver?