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Well there are way worse airports in the world than NAIA but NAIA earned this reputation because is is a major aviation hub. Even if an airport is extremely dilapidated and has bad service and comfort with high incident rates and dishonest staff, it won't make the world's worst list if it is tiny. NAIA is an embarrassment because it has world class traffic without world class infrastructure and management.
 

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What funding? They were well funded = P1.1B. Even COA criticized the authorities for letting the P1.1B fund go stale. The money was there but they did not know how to use the money.

Bottom line: INCOMPETENT MANAGERS

Rep. Sherwin Gatchalian is correct. It's time for Manager Honrado to resign.
The issue has been there since the previous administration. For whatever reason almost every managers who took over NAIA , T1 most especially has been in sorry state as far as I can remember. I still see the pattern in the sleeper's report, we discussed these here already that even the taxi service is being connected to the Airport when infact the issue should not even added to that complain because it is a city wide issue and that even if you get in a cab from the shopping mall, church or offices, you'd still face that same dilemma about dishonest drivers and operators. The fact of the matter is, the main complain is mostly on the lack of areas to lounge around and sleep in when they cannot get into the business class lounge because they bought a coach class ticket. For one, the issue of congestion is actually addressed, what got NAIA in its current state now is more on corruption whenever the government started uncovering the legal issues with frapport/piatco vs the construction of T3.
 

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^^ Yes we all have been through the worst airport in the world, and that doesn't necessarily mean NAIA at T1. But what I see at T1 and the operations of NAIA is they see the little problems, can talk about them in the press forever but can't find fixes (even the simplest ones) to address the issues.

Last Wednesday, I flew out of T3. Ceb Pac was already delayed 1 hour, for "technical reason" we had to change plane. After changing planes, we were asked to wait for 45 min on the tarmac, the 15th plane on the line. Ceb Pac pilot apologized for the "inadequate facilities" at the airport. By the time we got to take off, we were nearly 2 hours on the tarmac. We were LUCKY. Some people I got talking to in Puerto Princesa, were delayed as much as 5 hours, and apparently 100 flights cancelled! Apparently, they were fixing or upgrading the radar. Why would NAIA wait just a few days to announce they were going to do that. They should know by now what maintenance/upgrading program they should do, considering practically everything at NAIA is antiquated. What about the productivity and revenue loss for the airlines and the passengers? Do they even get a f........g s.....t?

On return, I stood in line for the yellow cab at T3. I noticed they were coming in at 5 minute interval, and there was a very long line. (In the past the most I would wait is 15 min) I asked the dispatcher if he could contact the other terminals, to send their cabs. At T1 I noticed I could get a cab as soon as I got out the door. He agreed, because the cabs there prefer to scoop foreigners on itnl flights (so they can rook them, which nearly happened to me 2x in the past). He said, he was only a dispatcher, on contract, from an agency, and he didn't have the mandate, the responsibility, the authority to do it. He only records, dispatches cabs as they come.

On the other side, people were waiting for the city bus (almost 1 hour no bus), and those waiting for the shuttle bus almost 1 hour before one came by. Even those who wanted to take a cab they were nowhere to be found. It seems there were no real employees, there who could help people. Everywhere I looked outside, they all seemd to be working for security agency or employment agency, not one real NAIA employee. Can't NAIA at least get one more shuttle bus to run for those who have to connect to other terminals? Couldn't the NAIA admin connect the dispatchers with some form of communication system so they can shift cabs from one terminal to the next?

I'm very lucky my flight was delayed 2 hours only, lucky I got a cab in 45 minutes on a slow Saturday. Others, had it really bad. But a country that's giddy with its investment rating, the operation of its premier airport is still at a junk bond grade. A country that wants to project "fun" it isnt fun if you were a tourist, biting your nails if you would catch your connecting flight at another terminal. Again I don't consider T1 the worst airport in the world, I've had far worse experience, but I just can't figure out why simple things can get complicated. And let me add, there was no typhoon, no flood, (fantastic weather really), no earthquake, no rallies or revolution happening. Go figure. :bash:
 

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^^ Yes we all have been through the worst airport in the world, and that doesn't necessarily mean NAIA at T1. But what I see at T1 and the operations of NAIA is they see the little problems, can talk about them in the press forever but can't find fixes (even the simplest ones) to address the issues.

Last Wednesday, I flew out of T3. Ceb Pac was already delayed 1 hour, for "technical reason" we had to change plane. After changing planes, we were asked to wait for 45 min on the tarmac, the 15th plane on the line. Ceb Pac pilot apologized for the "inadequate facilities" at the airport. By the time we got to take off, we were nearly 2 hours on the tarmac. We were LUCKY. Some people I got talking to in Puerto Princesa, were delayed as much as 5 hours, and apparently 100 flights cancelled! Apparently, they were fixing or upgrading the radar. Why would NAIA wait just a few days to announce they were going to do that. They should know by now what maintenance/upgrading program they should do, considering practically everything at NAIA is antiquated. What about the productivity and revenue loss for the airlines and the passengers? Do they even get a f........g s.....t?

On return, I stood in line for the yellow cab at T3. I noticed they were coming in at 5 minute interval, and there was a very long line. (In the past the most I would wait is 15 min) I asked the dispatcher if he could contact the other terminals, to send their cabs. At T1 I noticed I could get a cab as soon as I got out the door. He agreed, because the cabs there prefer to scoop foreigners on itnl flights (so they can rook them, which nearly happened to me 2x in the past). He said, he was only a dispatcher, on contract, from an agency, and he didn't have the mandate, the responsibility, the authority to do it. He only records, dispatches cabs as they come.

On the other side, people were waiting for the city bus (almost 1 hour no bus), and those waiting for the shuttle bus almost 1 hour before one came by. Even those who wanted to take a cab they were nowhere to be found. It seems there were no real employees, there who could help people. Everywhere I looked outside, they all seemd to be working for security agency or employment agency, not one real NAIA employee. Can't NAIA at least get one more shuttle bus to run for those who have to connect to other terminals? Couldn't the NAIA admin connect the dispatchers with some form of communication system so they can shift cabs from one terminal to the next?

I'm very lucky my flight was delayed 2 hours only, lucky I got a cab in 45 minutes on a slow Saturday. Others, had it really bad. But a country that's giddy with its investment rating, the operation of its premier airport is still at a junk bond grade. A country that wants to project "fun" it isnt fun if you were a tourist, biting your nails if you would catch your connecting flight at another terminal. Again I don't consider T1 the worst airport in the world, I've had far worse experience, but I just can't figure out why simple things can get complicated. And let me add, there was no typhoon, no flood, (fantastic weather really), no earthquake, no rallies or revolution happening. Go figure. :bash:
CAAP said, they had a meeting with the local airlines one month before the upgrade and was told to reduce their flights to 40% for the duration of 30 hours and submit to CAAP which flights to be cancelled and which will proceed. The limit would be 11 arrivals and 11 departures both local and foreign airlines but the foreign airlines will be given priority.

The announcement was told to the public very late both from CAAP and from the Airlines. Airlines should announce this first earlier on flight cancellations in print, audio/visual and online while CAAP should announce on when the scheduled upgrade of the radar, IMO: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/21/13/caap-limited-flights-naia-oct-23

Then CAAP blames Cebu Pacific for the cause of delays in NAIA because Cebu Pacific didn't follow the 40% reduction
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/24/13/caap-blames-cebu-pacific-delays-naia
 

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Just because you think there are other airports worse than NAIA, it still does not change the fact there are numerous unresolved problems at NAIA, it is still a lousy airport. It does not change anything for NAIA!:cheers:
Like I said, I've been there, and if you think NAIA is lousy, then just go on with your business. Airports can not satisfy everyone at anytime.
 

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Here's my take: NAIA is a decent airport, and it has served its purpose for decades as Manila's international gateway to the world. However, it has already become overcrowded and seriously congested for its own good that Manila deserves a much larger, more modern, and very efficient terminal that the Philippines can be proud of. Yes, we may look to Singapore, Seoul, and Hong Kong for inspiration, but, I want to ask: do you think that a new Manila International Airport should embody the Filipino spirit of today rather than of 30 or 40 years ago? Do you sense that a new international airport will be able to cater to our growing travel needs and demands from other Asian nations? Do you believe that a new international airport will be needed to bolster our economic growth further, and instead of waiting for other local airlines to act, PAL should act and develop it so that it can be opened in time for an even further growth in air travel?

I mean, if we wait for other airlines to act, we will truly be stuck with NAIA for years to come up to a point that serious delays of around an hour could cause loss of productivity, especially for business travelers... why do we need to sacrifice their needs when we want a lot of investments? Airports provide a catalyst for increasing a nation's Foreign Direct Investment by providing better infrastructure to help businessmen and governments to start new deals and contracts with the Philippines... when do we want to start looking this way rather than staying blind and deaf on the urgent need to improve our infra by building a new airport? NAIA can still support international traffic, sure, but I think the traffic is already overcrowded for its own good.
 

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Here's my take: NAIA is a decent airport, and it has served its purpose for decades as Manila's international gateway to the world. However, it has already become overcrowded and seriously congested for its own good that Manila deserves a much larger, more modern, and very efficient terminal that the Philippines can be proud of. Yes, we may look to Singapore, Seoul, and Hong Kong for inspiration, but, I want to ask: do you think that a new Manila International Airport should embody the Filipino spirit of today rather than of 30 or 40 years ago? Do you sense that a new international airport will be able to cater to our growing travel needs and demands from other Asian nations? Do you believe that a new international airport will be needed to bolster our economic growth further, and instead of waiting for other local airlines to act, PAL should act and develop it so that it can be opened in time for an even further growth in air travel?

I mean, if we wait for other airlines to act, we will truly be stuck with NAIA for years to come up to a point that serious delays of around an hour could cause loss of productivity, especially for business travelers... why do we need to sacrifice their needs when we want a lot of investments? Airports provide a catalyst for increasing a nation's Foreign Direct Investment by providing better infrastructure to help businessmen and governments to start new deals and contracts with the Philippines... when do we want to start looking this way rather than staying blind and deaf on the urgent need to improve our infra by building a new airport? NAIA can still support international traffic, sure, but I think the traffic is already overcrowded for its own good.
Business travelers actually like NAIA. They have APEC cards that allow them to breeze through immigration no matter how crowded it is. They get in and out of the terminal with ease, and there's a car waiting for them from their companies to pick them up.

For tourists on package tours, upon their arrival, they're processed in the airport en masse, and there's a bus waiting for their arrival.

NAIA has its inefficiencies, and people have come up with ways to get around them.

The people who suffer the crowdedness and the lack of transportation options the most are backpackers, balikbayans, and the Filipino middle class going off on their trips.

Congestion is unavoidable. Even Changi, KLIA, and HKIA get really crowded in immigration sometimes. I remember being stuck in the immigration line in KLIA for a solid hour.

Congestion is, in a way a good sign. It means that people actually want to fly to the area that the airport serves.

When Aeroports de Paris made a masterplan for NAIA, they envisioned that T2 and T3 would serve our needs for much longer than originally planned.

I get the frustration with us not "moving forward" so to speak. If we look at history, NAIA-1 was over capacity for six whole years before NAIA-2 opened.

Now, it isn't just the terminal complex that's at capacity. We have to worry about runway capacity.

NAIA can last for just a bit longer. Many companies have realized that. There is a lot at stake when you look at the future of the airport. You have many different companies, be it airlines, air cargo handlers, franchisers of duty free, hotels, casinos, etc. All of these different entities have interests on where the next airport should be, and their interests all differ.

From a policymakers' point of view, we have reached a crossroads, and no matter where the airport is located, there will be winners AND losers. You can't just hope that "political will" is enough to make it happen. We are in a democracy, and there has to be some sort of consultative process. If you're wondering why study after study is being commissioned, that's because the results of most of these studies haven't been well-received by vested interests. For the longest time, airlines have been lobbying against moving to Clark, despite the fact that so many studies have shown that it is ultimately the cheapest option for the government.

The Aquino Administration has decided to just kick the can forward. They've already missed the boat when it comes to making the major decision to move.

This is the danger of democracy, but I wouldn't trade it for anything else. There are so many disparate voices that are slowing things down, but this "slowdown" is necessary for all parties to understand each other. It's a slow process, yes, but we'll get there.
 

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chowpau;108314469[B said:
]CAAP said[/B], they had a meeting with the local airlines one month before the upgrade and was told to reduce their flights to 40% for the duration of 30 hours and submit to CAAP which flights to be cancelled and which will proceed. The limit would be 11 arrivals and 11 departures both local and foreign airlines but the foreign airlines will be given priority.

The announcement was told to the public very late both from CAAP and from the Airlines. Airlines should announce this first earlier on flight cancellations in print, audio/visual and online while CAAP should announce on when the scheduled upgrade of the radar, IMO: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/21/13/caap-limited-flights-naia-oct-23

Then CAAP blames Cebu Pacific for the cause of delays in NAIA because Cebu Pacific didn't follow the 40% reduction
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/10/24/13/caap-blames-cebu-pacific-delays-naia
Well, the travelling public did not get the CAAP memo early enough. If it is CAAP working through the airlines AND the NAIA admin, it was their responsibility to ensure the word got out. The blame game, after the fact rationalizations, if it was really Ceb Pac why not penalize the airline? I wonder.

As for the shuttle bus, and taxi situation, oh well....
 

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If I have to judge, NAIA 1 is not the worst not even at the bottom list. Go to India check the airports.

Though I have to admit that my taste of airport (maybe most of Filipino) if you go out NAIA is also not in the top list, I think it is a must to renovate the airport.

If we think closer, the title worst airport to me is that this is a very busy airport and they want this airport to be renovated since they will be using this airport more often, so it was constructive. Just renovate, no need to resign.
 

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If I have to judge, NAIA 1 is not the worst not even at the bottom list. Go to India check the airports.

Though I have to admit that my taste of airport (maybe most of Filipino) if you go out NAIA is also not in the top list, I think it is a must to renovate the airport.

If we think closer, the title worst airport to me is that this is a very busy airport and they want this airport to be renovated since they will be using this airport more often, so it was constructive. Just renovate, no need to resign.

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Indira Gandhi International Airport, January 2012 (last year)

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If I have to judge, NAIA 1 is not the worst not even at the bottom list. Go to India check the airports.

Though I have to admit that my taste of airport (maybe most of Filipino) if you go out NAIA is also not in the top list, I think it is a must to renovate the airport.

If we think closer, the title worst airport to me is that this is a very busy airport and they want this airport to be renovated since they will be using this airport more often, so it was constructive. Just renovate, no need to resign.
The Indian government's actually been spending a lot of money to improve their airports, actually. The new Terminal 3 at DEL is proof of that (check the photo above). Even secondary cities like Hyderabad or Bangalore have had major renovations/new terminals built.
 

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Like I said, I've been there, and if you think NAIA is lousy, then just go on with your business. Airports can not satisfy everyone at anytime.
But they can satisfy most passengers most of the time.
One of the main reasons NAIA is considered the worst airport in the world is because it is not even connected to a metro station. I think it is the only major airport in the world that is not connected to a metro station.
 
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