New York must be the only top tier global city that hasn't hosted The Olympics

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Manila-X

Discussion Starter · May 18, 2012

It seems that NYC is the only top tier global city that has not hosted The Summer Olympic games.

It's contemporaries such as Paris, Tokyo and currently London have hosted.

NY's American counterparts such as LA or Atlanta have hosted as well with LA hosting twice.

The Big Apple did bid for The 2012 Olympic Games but lost to London and did not even made the finalist.

Now, the question, Is NY really that capable on handling such event and where will the stadiums and other facilities be built?

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desertpunk

· #2 · May 18, 2012

NYC doesn't need nor want the Olympics.

The 2012 bid fell because the city simply didn't want Deputy Mayor Doctoroff's awful stadiums and other venues and attractions. Because the megalomaniacal I.O.C. demands that cities virtually recreate themselves to suit their grandiose tastes, NY'ers will never support having such an Olympics. If the games ever return to their core mission of promoting sport, as opposed to reshaping societies or pimping the brand to the highest bidder, then there's a chance of another bid. As always, should another city's attempts to stage an Olympics collapses, NYC is well prepared to host the sporting event; as many billions have been spent on new stadiums and arenas in just the last decade.

Hindustani

· #3 · May 18, 2012

NYC is too good for Summer Olympics

New York City is much above these summer & winter olympics.

When you're mecca of basketball, football, ice hockey, baseball, you dont need Michael Phelps winning 8th gold metal to put the city is sports historys map forever.

I.O.C. is known for corruption & bribery to give mega cities the games. It has been well documented. NYC will rather built more iconic supertalls than waste valueble manhattan building soon to be abandoned summer olympics stadiums after olympics.

Calvin W

· #4 · May 18, 2012

Hindustani said:
New York City is much above these summer & winter olympics.

When you're mecca of basketball, football, ice hockey, baseball, you dont need Michael Phelps winning 8th gold metal to put the city is sports historys map forever.

I.O.C. is known for corruption & bribery to give mega cities the games. It has been well documented. NYC will rather built more iconic supertalls than waste valueble manhattan building soon to be abandoned summer olympics stadiums after olympics.

Mecca of hockey? hahaha good one...
Football? hahaha again.
Basketball? One good team make them a mecca?
Baseball, might be right on this one.

hmmm? 1 out 4?

Elsongs

· #5 · May 18, 2012 (Edited)

Manila-X said:
It seems that NYC is the only top tier global city that has not hosted The Summer Olympic games.

It's contemporaries such as Paris, Tokyo and currently London have hosted.

NY's American counterparts such as LA or Atlanta have hosted as well with LA hosting twice.

The Big Apple did bid for The 2012 Olympic Games but lost to London and did not even made the finalist.

Now, the question, Is NY really that capable on handling such event and where will the stadiums and other facilities be built?

I would throw in Hong Kong as well...

I do think the city's density has something to do with it. There's simply not enough space in the city proper to host the events. Sure they could do events in Long Island, Connecticut, or Jersey, as every Olympic city puts events in its outskirts, but you want to have the majority of the events hosted in the city proper, ESPECIALLY the main Olympic venue which hosts the opening/closing ceremonies, which NYC doesn't even have, nor has space for.

Which NYC venues would be ready to go? Only 4 - Madison Square Garden, Yankee Stadium, Citi Field and the new Nets arena in Brooklyn. Now consider the fact that baseball is no longer an Olympic sport, and you're left with only two venues...

This "NYC Doesn't Need An Olympics" jabber is typical Noo Yawker arrogance.
London doesn't need an Olympics either, but they're going to host their THIRD in a few months. Pity Chicago didn't get to host it. I didn't think Atlanta was worthy to host the games. I wouldn't call them a "World Class" city by any means. And one ******* terrorist ruined the party.

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poshbakerloo

· #6 · May 18, 2012

desertpunk said:
NYC doesn't need nor want the Olympics.

If they got it though, can't imagine they would complain. Just sayin' :eat:

Well I guess New York is dyer need of investment from tourists, but then again, neither is London. I guess its just a chance to say "hey look at me and how great I am" etc.

Knitemplar

· #7 · May 18, 2012 (Edited)

Elsongs said:
I would throw in Hong Kong as well...

Well, the 2008 Equestrian events were held in Hong Kong. Plus, HKG is the site of the 5th Disneyland Park. Only 5 cities in the world are blessed with those.

Sao Paulo, Mumbai and Shanghai are the other three alpha-mega world cities that have yet to host an Olympics.

In New York's defense, it is the home of the United Nations; and it had hosted TWO grandiose World's Fairs, and the 1964-65 one was the ONLY World's Fair that ran for two years. Also, the 1984 LA Torch Run began at the United Nations Hqtrs in NYC.

NYC's main preoccupations are Finance, Fashion and Art, Advertising, Publishing, Theatre and the governance of the world. :lol: It's NOT desperate to stage an Olympics.

If NYC were to host, there are Flushing Meadows in Queens, Staten Island, the Meadowlands and Central Park as wide opens space where to put new venues, either temporary or permanent.
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Hindustani

· #8 · May 18, 2012

Calvin W said:
Mecca of hockey? hahaha good one...
Football? hahaha again.
Basketball? One good team make them a mecca?
Baseball, might be right on this one.

hmmm? 1 out 4?

Hmmm!

no

thats 4-4!!!

Yes it is.

NY Giants won 2 superbowls as underdogs in last 5 yrs. go figure that.

NY Rangers & NJ Devils are NYC metropolitan area NHL teams fighting off the NHL playoffs series, much anticipated & watched series so far.

NY Yankees are always in the hunt of World Series Penent.

Madison Square Garden was, is & always will be called "Mecca of Basketball" & this years Knicks did not do too bad with all the injuries.

NYC is not an overrated sports town like London which desperately needs an american like Michael Phelps & Jamaican like Usain Bolt to market London so that world can tune in to watch 2012 London Olympics.

NYC is superior to any Olympics & dont ever need one to market itself.

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Baleares

· #9 · May 18, 2012

With the terrorist threat it will still remain.

LosAngelesSportsFan

· #10 · May 18, 2012

Hindustani said:
Hmmm!

no

thats 4-4!!!

Yes it is.

NY Giants won 2 superbowls as underdogs in last 5 yrs. go figure that.

NY Rangers & NJ Devils are NYC metropolitan area NHL teams fighting off the NHL playoffs series, much anticipated & watched series so far.

NY Yankees are always in the hunt of World Series Penent.

Madison Square Garden was, is & always will be called "Mecca of Basketball" & this years Knicks did not do too bad with all the injuries.

NYC is not an overrated sports town like London which desperately needs an american like Michael Phelps & Jamaican like Usain Bolt to market London so that world can tune in to watch 2012 London Olympics.

NYC is superior to any Olympics & dont ever need one to market itself.

New Yorkers are funny

Knitemplar

· #11 · May 18, 2012

Baleares said:
With the terrorist threat it will still remain.

ANY Olympic host city, Rio and winter cities included, will ALWAYS be attractive to terrorists. The Olympics are such a high-profile event that anyone against the host country will always use the Games to highlight their agendas.

Blackpool88

· #12 · May 18, 2012

Hindustani said:
Hmmm!

no

thats 4-4!!!

Yes it is.

NY Giants won 2 superbowls as underdogs in last 5 yrs. go figure that.

NY Rangers & NJ Devils are NYC metropolitan area NHL teams fighting off the NHL playoffs series, much anticipated & watched series so far.

NY Yankees are always in the hunt of World Series Penent.

Madison Square Garden was, is & always will be called "Mecca of Basketball" & this years Knicks did not do too bad with all the injuries.

NYC is not an overrated sports town like London which desperately needs an american like Michael Phelps & Jamaican like Usain Bolt to market London so that world can tune in to watch 2012 London Olympics.

NYC is superior to any Olympics & dont ever need one to market itself.

This post is absolutely brilliant... You do realize that 90% of the world don't give a shit about any of those sports right? Sporting capital is the one thing that New York City aint my friend! You bid for 2012 for God's sake!

ssiguy2

· #13 · May 18, 2012

NYC hasn't hosted the Olympics because they are smart.

Olympics are an obscene waste of funds especially the summer ones which tend to be much larger and have higher security.

They create havoc on the city itself turning it into an armed camp. They are ridiculously expensive requiring huge new sports facilities which ussually lose a fortune after the games and sit unused. They drain the treasury of precious funds which would have been far better spent on social/educational/health services. They always result in mass evictions of people in lower income areas for real estate speculation. Vancouver is a stellar example of that.

The only people who profit from Olympics are the real estate speculators, the developers, and politicians who get wet dreams over ribbon-cutting ceremonies. Vancouver is a stellar example of that where the "low income" social housing that was suppose to be a result of the games sold for an average of a million bucks per unit after the games. The new sports arenas look nice but taxes have soared to cover the cost and services like health are declining.

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pi_malejana

· #14 · May 19, 2012

i would rather have Chicago host it than NYC, and i'm from NY...

Calvin W

· #15 · May 19, 2012

Hindustani said:
Hmmm!

no

thats 4-4!!!

Yes it is.

NY Giants won 2 superbowls as underdogs in last 5 yrs. go figure that.

NY Rangers & NJ Devils are NYC metropolitan area NHL teams fighting off the NHL playoffs series, much anticipated & watched series so far.

NY Yankees are always in the hunt of World Series Penent.

Madison Square Garden was, is & always will be called "Mecca of Basketball" & this years Knicks did not do too bad with all the injuries.

NYC is not an overrated sports town like London which desperately needs an american like Michael Phelps & Jamaican like Usain Bolt to market London so that world can tune in to watch 2012 London Olympics.

NYC is superior to any Olympics & dont ever need one to market itself.

Well you keep thinking that mate. The World doesn't even watch those four sports you have mentioned. Outside of North America most if not all of those sports and leagues have little to no significance...

Giants win two superbowls and that makes you the "mecca" of football? **** you are funny mate.....

Lets see, hockey, how many Stanley Cups has NEW YORK won recently? Islanders, none in the last few decades, Rangers, one in the last 30+ years.

Hell NEW JERSEY is a better hockey "mecca" than New York, They have won three times since the last NEW YORK win

Now, NBA, here is a real laughing matter....
NEW YORK has won the NBA championship a total of "0" times since 1950 :nuts:, Yep "mecca"

YOu are real funny mate, keep dreaming what you dream, keep smoking what you smoke, because some day you will come off that high you are on and will return to reality.

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desertpunk

· #16 · May 19, 2012

poshbakerloo said:
If they got it though, can't imagine they would complain. Just sayin' :eat:

Well I guess New York is dyer need of investment from tourists, but then again, neither is London. I guess its just a chance to say "hey look at me and how great I am" etc.

Not many cried when NYC's 2012 bid fell completely apart before the final selection. There's always those who buy into this stuff lock, stock and barrel, but most were happy to not waste billions on ugly crap or to have to vacate the city to avoid the crowds around their neighborhood.

Let's see: instead of one butt-ugly stadium over the west side rail yards NY gets Hudson Yards and Manhattan West with 3-6 supertalls, thousands of apartments and condos , hotels, shopping and a new throbbing commercial district with year-round jobs and opportunities. And instead of a shitty West Side stadium that was too cramped for the Olympics and too expensive for the NY Jets, the Jets got a nice new, shared expense $1.6 billion stadium across the Hudson so they're not exactly crying either.

Instead of billions in debt for a wretched made-for-tv 2 week spectacle, NY'ers get more money for housing, transportation and other ammenities.

Instead of a 7 Train extension that wouldn't have been complete by mid 2012, leading to nasty Olympic traffic snarls and confused tourists getting fumed to death along 30th street by a sea of crappy Fung Wah buses, NYC gets to enjoy the High Line Park in peace and sheer enjoyment. Etc. etc.etc...

Yep, it's great that London got the games. Hooray! Go London!

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endymar

· #17 · May 19, 2012

NYC doesn't need those games and neither does any other city. What's the point? Bunch of people are sweating for money and medals and I suppose to watch that?
But the Olympics aren't nearly as bad as football/soccer world cup or something like that. In that case you have to handle borderline retards on the streets. Now that game brings out the lowest of the human population.

Skyrazer

· #18 · May 19, 2012

Frankly I think it's to NY's huge benefit that it hasn't hosted the Olympics. Like so many others have said, pouring massive amounts of funds and resources into an event that lasts a couple of weeks is utter wastage.

pi_malejana

· #19 · May 20, 2012

Calvin W said:
Well you keep thinking that mate. The World doesn't even watch those four sports you have mentioned. Outside of North America most if not all of those sports and leagues have little to no significance...

Giants win two superbowls and that makes you the "mecca" of football? **** you are funny mate.....

Lets see, hockey, how many Stanley Cups has NEW YORK won recently? Islanders, none in the last few decades, Rangers, one in the last 30+ years.

Hell NEW JERSEY is a better hockey "mecca" than New York, They have won three times since the last NEW YORK win

Now, NBA, here is a real laughing matter....
NEW YORK has won the NBA championship a total of "0" times since 1950 :nuts:, Yep "mecca"

YOu are real funny mate, keep dreaming what you dream, keep smoking what you smoke, because some day you will come off that high you are on and will return to reality.

i don't think you understand... NYC isn't the mecca, MSG is, with its history and all... it's just a nickname that stood through time, like "The Garden" for example...

also, New York Knicks has won 2 championships in 1970 and 1973 (during Greg Holtzman's tenure)... granted it's not 17 by Celtics and 16 by Lakers, but it's not "0" either...

:cheers:

Rev Stickleback

· #20 · May 20, 2012

desertpunk said:
As always, should another city's attempts to stage an Olympics collapses, NYC is well prepared to host the sporting event; as many billions have been spent on new stadiums and arenas in just the last decade.

Is there a stadium with a track in the city?

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