In theory yes [though would almost certainly need to be Newcastle-Gateshead or even 'Tyne-Tees or Tyne 'n' Wear. Back of a fag packet we'd need to build:Newcastle and Commonwealth Games:
Could Newcastle host such an event if? If so what would we need to get up to scratch for hosting it?
Continuing the legacies from London and Manchester. If we build the venues here would we be able to make full use of them afterwards. Newcastle really needs a decent size Olympic swimming pool. A velodrome would be nice and may 'inspire a generation'. Gateshead stadium would certainly benefit as they host a few internationals anyway.In theory yes [though would almost certainly need to be Newcastle-Gateshead or even 'Tyne-Tees or Tyne 'n' Wear. Back of a fag packet we'd need to build:
It's possible but in this climate there's not a prayer.
- 50m pool and diving pool - though there might be one in Sunderland. For an event like this you actually need 2 50m pools, one for competition and one for warm up. There also needs to be associated seating etc
- Probably significant expansion of Gateshead stadium - assuming that was the athletics venue
- An 'arena' for sports such as weightlifting, gymnastics etc
- A velodrome
- Athlete's village - though there are lots of vancant sity centre flats
- Somewhere for the shooting [probably not that tough to find]
- 'Infrastructure' [separate training facilities, admin, medical etc
Be great but check the numbers [2002 prices]:Continuing the legacies from London and Manchester. If we build the venues here would we be able to make full use of them afterwards. Newcastle really needs a decent size Olympic swimming pool. A velodrome would be nice and may 'inspire a generation'. Gateshead stadium would certainly benefit as they host a few internationals anyway.
Here is an article on Manchesters stadiums:
Plus that was pre 2000 prices when they would have started buildingBe great but check the numbers [2002 prices]:
Set the stadium to one side [and there's no infrastructure or athlete village] and that's £62mil
- velodrome £9.5mil
- arena £10mil
- upgrade of all weather for hockey £3mil
- bowling £1mil
- squash £3.5mil
- pool £32mil
- warm up arena £3 mil [this is probably closer to Gateshead stadium]
- Main stadium £112mil
Aye... also some of the emerging nations are more willing to chuck money at this sort of project. Not a perfect comparison but the growth in F1 comes from nations willing to pay..As Britain has had/will have games in Edinburgh (70 and 86), Manchester (02) and Glasgow (14), it suggests another UK city would not have a prayer until 2026/30, and then it will probably be Belfast (as Cardiff had a crack in 58), so that would give us a City of Tyneside games in 2038/42/46. This would be quite timely, as the high speed rail might have got up to Darlington by then.
We could do this and I feel right at this time the government would back us. They would back us because they need to show that they care> everyone is feeling left out at the moment with Scotland wanting full independence. The government showing their support for us would give them 'loads'a votes' and we'd get decent transport links and infrastructure.
Then the alarm goes off.
But seriously, this would be huge for us.
Nope and to be honest we d not get it anyway [unless we were the only bidder or against somewhere really scary]. If we got it we couldn't pay for it and we'd end up with costly white elephants.It would definitely be the North East's "turn", having missed out on the Commonwealth Games, The Capital of Culture, The Tour, a number of major lumps of investment etc...
Thing is, bearing in mind the expensive lumps of kit you're left to maintain, would we want it?!
I rest my case..... Liverpool's [or really Merseyside] has got more chance and more marginals. It's just not going to happen here.This could inspire a generation into sports, and healthy living. It could also change young lives.
Sure we would have a couple more venues, but would they really be a white elephant? How many people would have thought the aquatics centre in Sunderland would be successful?, how many people would have thought the Great North Run would do so well and last so long? Having these new venues could bring new events to the area, new investment.
More importantly though in order to host these events the government would have to make sure that supporting infrastructure was up to date and adequate. If hosting the Commonwealth games was the difference between HSR coming to the region, or the A1 being dulled, even a bit more investment in to the Metro to possibly extend it or even investments to Newcastle airport then surely it would be worth just for even 1 of those to happen?
I meant more in terms of the success - of course it s not essential for it to be a city. I just meant that with a relatively low bar it failed.We don't need Gateshead to be given city status,
Depends what you want to spend - and your priorities. For me [if you believe there's a low prospect of success] then a good 5 figure sum that it would cost to simply think about a bid and then decent sized [at minimum] 6 figure sum that a bid would cost would be better spent on the sport rather than the consultants. Bear in mind this is my speaking as someone who is one of the people that is occasionally admirably paid for working on sporting consultancy jobs.We shouldn't make an official bid or announce our intuitions to the government for fear of rejection, if we did that then we might as well pack up now and stop making other bids for other forms of investment. Our bid for European city of culture a few years ago would never have got off the ground if we feared rejection, and yes we were beaten to it by Liverpool but the senses is that we deserved it more and should have been given it, heck Hull are even getting in on it now.
Shouldn't we try and be disappointed if we fail instead of sitting around moping that noting comes our way? Yes we will get comments on how money could have been better spent on the sports themselves or better spent elsewhere but why let that stop us?, these comments will come no matter who makes the bid. Tax payers in my age range will be paying off the Olympics for their rest of their working lives (another 40 years or so), I'd sleep a lot happier at night if I knew my taxes were going towards Tyneside and Wearside hosting the Commonwealth games with potentially new and upgrades venues.
Because if we have spent the money on suits and glossy bid documents rather than sport itself then when the local pool shuts through lack of funding we ll have some explaining to do to the 12 year old who can no longer aspire to the olympics.... or even swim once a week !Yes we will get comments on how money could have been better spent on the sports themselves or better spent elsewhere but why let that stop us?
Errrr ... that s precisely what should stop us.sure Merseyside would stand more of a chance, you could list possibly anywhere else in the UK that would but the point is that shouldn't stop us..
I think though that the example is important here. Like you I regarded the whole idea as being a moment of comedy genius.... but lots didn't and I was playfully blowlamped here for being rude about the bid.City of Gateshead is just about the most ridiculous notion ever put forward by a Local Authority in the North East. The real question is whether people want the Commonwealth games hosted in Newcastle and Gateshead. If its 'yes' then the local authorities should get together and commission a feasibility.