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Looking at this forum everyday as well as skyscraperpage I never seem to see much about the south side of chicago. All the photo tours are of the north side. I walked from the museum of science and industy to downtown last summer and it dident seem that bad. It was clean, there were nice parks along the lake front and many tree lined streets. It also seems that the south side gets alot of bad press as well, just turn on WGN for the nightly news. Its eaither a shooting or an apartment fire. Tell me these things don't happan on the north side as well. I am requesting an indepth tour of the south side, I hear there is much new construction in the area, will it ever be high rises along the souther lake front? How about the proposed grey line, is that going to happan in the near future, it seems like the best proposal out there. After high school I plan to move to Chicago and I want the views of people who live their. I don't want to live in a really expensive area eaither. Thier just has to be a couple of things in the area. Transit, a park and a basketball court. I have been to both areas and I would have to say that the north side is more viabrant but what do you think the south side will be like in 10 years? So chicago people tell me what you think. North Side or South Side??
 

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I lived on the south side for 5 years while attending college at UofC. I like Hyde Park/South Kenwood a lot. Certainly an elegant neighborhood with an intellectual character by virtue of UofC's presence. There are other benefits: the park on Promontory Point is wonderful--like parts of Lincoln Park but without the overcrowding in the summer. However, its certainly not vibrant like Lincoln Park or other parts of the North side. And another negative is the grocery stores--no Whole Foods or Dominicks or even a Jewel, only two neighborhood groceries which, despite being technically owned by their customer base (its a co-op) do not, in my opinion, serve customers very well. For a good grocery store with good prices, variety and produce that is actually fresh, you have to drive west to Cub Foods on the city border, or up north to the new grocery stores on Roosevelt.

Your neighborhood requirements seem to be low, so maybe Hyde Park would do the trick. The prices per square foot are certainly lower than downtown or North Side, and commuting to the Loop is relatively easy if you're near the Metra stop. (If not though, taking the 55 bus to the Red Line is drag, and coming home that way late at night, if it can be avoided, should be!)

For me, an urban neighborhood has to have a good movie theater that is within walking distance, and Hyde Park was so-so on that account. When I was there, the neighborhood lacked a good movie theater with the exception of Doc Films, the university's wonderful student-run theater showing unusual/foreign films on weeknights and second-run blockbusters on weekends. The Hyde Park theater on 53rd was extremely run down and rarely played movies I wanted to watch. There was talk of a multiplex replacement for the Hyde Park theater several years ago, but I don't know if that ever took off.

As to crime reportage, the crime rates in south side must be higher than in the north side--especially surrounding Hyde Park. Hyde Park is bordered on three sides by neighborhoods (or the remains of neighborhoods) that are terrible. The murder rate along 55/Garfield itself was high enough that some cab drivers refused to drive down that road. You can claim that this is overreacting, and I think you would be right -- I rode my bike through some of these neighborhoods without incident, but the psychic costs of crime are high even for those who never experience it themselves.

As to highrises along the southern lakefront: they do exist but some are farther from the lake. Just south of McCormick Place is the landscaped "Prairie Shores" -- one of the few examples of "towers in a park" concept in the city that is market rate, not public.
 

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I like the south side, but my experience is really limited to Bridgeport, Woodlawn, Hyde Park/Kenwood, and as a student I've only really lived in Hyde Park.

I'd just have to say that a lot of the south side is not nearly as bad as you may think. The 55/Red Line trip is more anti-hype than anything else (of course, if you're standing at the stop, waiting for the 55, fanning yourself with a stack of benjamins, you may have some trouble).

My main problem is that the areas i discuss tend to be residential deserts. They're nice, quiet, but I don't particularly want nice and quiet out of a neighborhood. Living east of the Metra tracks would be a bit different, since stuff along Cornell and east is a lot more active.

EDIT: I would prefer to live in a nearer-to-Loop location, but apartments and homes along Cornell, as I said, I wouldn't mind living in at all. Close amenities, easy transportation, just the minor inconvenience of living in the same neighborhood as my college days :).
 

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Thats some good info. Thanks much. To be honest I could never live on the North Side. I see the south side being more distressed than the north side and I want to help fix that. I would love nothing more than to buy a old house and fix it up. I looked at realtor.com and they are dirt cheap. If more people did that than I could see the south side devolping into something like the north side. But the south needs its own distincitive style. I would never fan myself with a stack of benjamins. I never have a stack to begin with. I think I would fit right in down there, I don't dress fancy, and mind my own business. Does anyone have any pics of these places.?.?...
 

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I've been meaning to get a hold of a camera so I can take pics when I go on a romp through the southside.

Careful, though, some places are dirt cheap for a reason. I would wait before going to someplace like Canaryville. Others are just dirt cheap because everyone wants to live in Lincoln Park.
 

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There are parts of the South Side that are improving, and there are areas that are nice already (i.e. Hyde Park, although the downside there is access to downtown). But there is a reason why most people want to live on the North Side.
 

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North side is very dense, the red line blue, and the brown line station there are crowded compared to the Orange, red or the green line in the south.

I like the spouth siide more, becuase I never live in the north side, and the north side feels so rushed! Plus, I am a sox fan...lol.
 

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Aside from Hyde Park/Kenwood there are some interesting hidden-away neighborhoods on the S Side, like South Shore, Morgan Park, Beverly, Chicago Lawn (which was quite a suprise...big old victorian houses from an old railroad suburb that was swallowed up by the city...sort of a South Side version of Irving Park)...and more blue collar areas like South Chicago, Back of the Yards, Bridgeport, Hegewisch, and that Polish area off of Archer (Bubaks or Bobaks grocery..what a find that was!)......

...and those bouelevards extending north from Washington Park...some interesting romanesque revival townhouses and villas there.

My experience w. Chicago while living there was nearly all on the Northwest side with some on the pre-gentrification N Side...with very little to no connection w. the South Side. I return at least twice a year now on visits and have been exploring the South Side more, and it is like a whole new city for me.
 

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For those of you interested in this topic, I just posted an article about a huge Lawndale revitalization being planned by 2 prominent Chicago Mayoral Aides. It's quite interesting and I would like to see what they come up with.

You'll find it in the "Projects and Construction" subforum under "da South Side" thread
 

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Bobaks! I love that place! I've been to the one in Burr Ridge at least a dozen times, and the Polish food doesn't get old. The Polish Sausages and the European chocolates kick ass. I've never been to the one in the city though, although I'm sure it's just as good.

As for the south side, I'm a big fan. I'd eventually (after school) like to move to Bridgeport, somewhere near Sox park. My family is from the Southwest suburbs (Oak Lawn, Bridgeview) so I'm *relatively* used to the area, but not all that used to it.
 

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Chi-town said:
There are parts of the South Side that are improving, and there are areas that are nice already (i.e. Hyde Park, although the downside there is access to downtown). But there is a reason why most people want to live on the North Side.
Do most people really want to live on the North Side? There are thousands and thousand of people on the South and West Sides who have absolutely no desire to live on the North Side. I'm one of those people.

The North Side is way too pretentious. The people there act like the rest of the metropolitan area does not exist. Well, I've got news for you. Many of us could care less about the North Side. Sure, I go there every so often but there is no reason for me to EVER go north of, say, Division St.
 

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Bobaks! I love that place!
I lived in LaGrange for a few years in high school, and all my friends and I would go to Bobaks to buy booze... those people had no concept of what constituded acceptable identification. "I left it in my other pants" would suffice.

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Do most people really want to live on the North Side? There are thousands and thousand of people on the South and West Sides who have absolutely no desire to live on the North Side. I'm one of those people.
Great. But if one believes in the basic economics of market capitalism, and I do, they would disagree with you. I don't doubt that many South and West siders have no desire to live on the North Side. But most people in general (including, of course, those moving to the city from elsewhere) absolutely do. There is a reason prices are higher on the North Side, and it is because there is more demand to live there.

And you're sort of the pot calling the kettle black with that last statement, Dampyre. You say yourself that you have no reason to ever go north of Division Street... why would I need to go south of Roosevelt? Both sides of the city have everything local residents need, and for anything else one can go downtown (that's the point of a downtown, is it not?). And Chicagoans on both sides of the city could care less about the suburbs, for the most part.
 

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How many of these new Northisider gentrifiers are actually from Chicagoland? I'd almost bet there is alot of in-migration there from out of town.

I can say one thing, the N Side is almost unrecognizable to me in parts. Particulary that Lincoln/Belmont/Ashland area...and its happening to North Lincoln too, the area around the Davis Theatre. The invasion of the pod people has moved that far north.
 

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yea most that i have met are from ohio, iowa, indiana, wisconsin.... south side is where the real chicago is. but i'll admit i go to the north side for comedy shows at such, but the real chicago is the south side.
 

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yea most that i have met are from ohio, iowa, indiana, wisconsin.... south side is where the real chicago is. but i'll admit i go to the north side for comedy shows at such, but the real chicago is the south side.

LOL..the "real Chicago!"...this could be another thread. For me the "real Chicago" was the Northwest Side..my old neighborhood of Cragin, and places like Six Corners and Belmont & Central, and Logan Square...
 

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As a North Sider, I've gotta say: thank God for the South Side. It's real. It's gritty. It's muscular. It's what Carl Sandberg had in mind.

There may be more money on the North Side than the South, but a lot what made Chicago rich, the heavy industry that drove the place for so many years, was on the south.
 
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