OAKLAND - Oakland–Alameda County Coliseum (63,132)
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NFL
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Oakland Raiders
3x Champion:
1976, 1980, 1983
MLB
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Oakland Athletics
9x Champion:
1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930,
1972, 1973, 1974, 1989
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Before the addition of "Mt. Davis" this was a much more beautiful ballpark
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Oakland Raiders
3x Champion:
1976, 1980, 1983
MLB
Oakland Athletics
9x Champion:
1910, 1911, 1913, 1929, 1930,
1972, 1973, 1974, 1989
Before the addition of "Mt. Davis" this was a much more beautiful ballpark
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I couldn't agree more. I've been to alot of Raider games at the Coliseum over the years, and it's actually a great place to watch football. It's not the reason that the Raiders aren't selling out.
If you could magically plop Reliant, Jerryworld or MetLife into Oakland, you would have a really nice half empty stadium and mostly empty luxury boxes.
If you could magically plop Reliant, Jerryworld or MetLife into Oakland, you would have a really nice half empty stadium and mostly empty luxury boxes.
Everyone says that the coliseum is 40 years old. Mt. Davis isn't. That section of the stadium opened in 1996. It's Ironic that those are the seats that they are tarping off because nobody wants to sit there. That side of the stadium was built to modern specs, (club levels, suites, etc.) which had the effect of pushing the upper deck too high and too far removed from the action. People (Raider fans anyway) want to be close to the action, not high above it.
They can't afford to court free agents anyway. No Albert Pujols or Josh Hamilton deals for them.
Thinking waaay outside the box, but it sounds like what Oakland needs is a new multipurpose stadium. Before everybody starts screaming that it's a horrible idea, stop and think about it. This isn't 1965. Surely, with todays technology and some imaginative thinking, a single stadium could be designed that would perfectly meet the needs of both teams.
This is an architecture forum. Architects drool over the opportunity to break new ground. Architects are supposed to meet the customer's needs. A modern multipurpose stadium for the city of Oakland would be a chance to do both.
Think about it --- then flame away.
This is an architecture forum. Architects drool over the opportunity to break new ground. Architects are supposed to meet the customer's needs. A modern multipurpose stadium for the city of Oakland would be a chance to do both.
Think about it --- then flame away.
I would agree with all of those arguments, particularly that it's never been done well, but when is the last time that anyone even tried to do it. Off the top of my head, I would say the Metrodome in 1982 was the last multi-purpose stadium built. There is zero comparison of what can be done today compared to what could be done in 1982.
Just because it's never been done doesn't mean it can't be done.
Just because it's never been done doesn't mean it can't be done.
On second thought, Skydome in 1989 was probably the last baseball / football multipurpose stadium, but that was still 25 years and light years worth of innovation ago.
I think in some cases that that may be true, but in the case of Oakland I think that the Raiders would be happy with about 55,000 seats and the A's about 40,000. By the time you remove some of the field seats that would be in place for football, there wouldn't be much of a difference.
I'm familiar with all of the arguments against trying it, but I think that it is possible and that Oakland's situation is somewhat unique. The Raiders and the A's don't need a perfect stadium, they just need a better stadium. If they were to share a new stadium on the same site, they could both get what they need, even if it's not necessarily what they want.
Honestly, I don't think that designing a suitable stadium is even the biggest obstacle. Getting the Raiders, A's and City of Oakland politicians to work together and act like grown ups would be the biggest obstacle.
Honestly, I don't think that designing a suitable stadium is even the biggest obstacle. Getting the Raiders, A's and City of Oakland politicians to work together and act like grown ups would be the biggest obstacle.
We'll see how unwelcome they are when there is actual money on the table.
After looking over the report, I am convinced more than ever that what Oakland needs is a modern multi-purpose stadium. I know all of the arguments against, but I can't imagine that there is any other way to keep both teams. They certainly won't be building two stadiums in Oakland. I'm not sure they can even manage one. With today's technology, I think it is possible to build one stadium to service both teams well.
I totally agree that this is where this whole thing is headed and I think that it is a shame. I'd just like to see someone throw a creative "hail mary" to try to save both teams.
Furthermore, Oakland is constantly referred to as a "small" market. The Bay Area has a population of seven million people. Even if you were to concede two thirds of that market to the Giants and 49ers, you are still left with a population larger than the Charlotte, Portland or Indianapolis metro areas. Only Montreal would be larger, and then only marginally so.
Furthermore, Oakland is constantly referred to as a "small" market. The Bay Area has a population of seven million people. Even if you were to concede two thirds of that market to the Giants and 49ers, you are still left with a population larger than the Charlotte, Portland or Indianapolis metro areas. Only Montreal would be larger, and then only marginally so.
If a little bit of gold paint is going to change votes one way or the other, then the NFL has bigger problems than anyone imagined. I don't think these businessmen are that petty.
As far as the gold numbers themselves, in my opinion they look awful. Furthermore, they don't even make any sense. If they are intended to commemorate the 50th Super Bowl, then use them at the Super Bowl. Not all season long.
As far as the gold numbers themselves, in my opinion they look awful. Furthermore, they don't even make any sense. If they are intended to commemorate the 50th Super Bowl, then use them at the Super Bowl. Not all season long.
No. I hear what you are saying, and you are probably right that it's not good to aggravate the other owners.
We might be jumping the gun though. Let's wait and see if the ugly gold numbers appear once the infield is sodded. The Raiders never paint anything other than standard white lines and markings on the field until the baseball season is over and I would guess that the gold numbers would fit into that category.
We might be jumping the gun though. Let's wait and see if the ugly gold numbers appear once the infield is sodded. The Raiders never paint anything other than standard white lines and markings on the field until the baseball season is over and I would guess that the gold numbers would fit into that category.
I agree. I grew up in San Jose and have been a Raider Fan since I was old enough to say football. If they were to move outside of California, I'm afraid that it would be all over for me. I REALLY don't see this as any more than a bargaining chip though. I guess we'll see.
I wonder how that will work when football season arrives? While that area of the stadium is beyond the left field wall for baseball, those are pretty decent sideline corner seats for football. I'm curious how they will handle the transition.
I suppose you're probably right. It's just that most NFL standing areas are high up in the end zone ala JerryWorld. This standing area would have a pretty sweet view of the field.
After the Raiders and Warriors leave, the A's will get a new stadium on the Coliseum property. It is truly the only site that makes sense, and there's no way that Oakland is going to let them leave when they are the only team left.
With there only being two seasons left for the Raiders in Oakland and with the excitement created by the return of John Gruden, has there been any discussion of removing the tarps from Mt. Davis for the football season?
Tonight's game 5 of the Bay Bridge Series drew 56,310, the largest home crowd for the A's of all time, and the largest crowd in the majors this season. They watched the A's nick the Giants, 4-3 in 11 innings. This nice panorama was taken from the very top of Mt. Davis. Tweeted by David Lombardi.
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