Could be worse.... Could be the KFC Yum! Center, now that makes me want to vomit.
To each his own I guess.Really? It makes me want a 3 pc. and a biscut...
The Raiders may well have, and there could be any number of reasons for not persuing that option to this point (site issues, demolition costs etc). I would guess a lot of it is no one gets excited about a renovation the same way they get about a new building.I'm guessing they've tossed this idea around already, but I think it would be so costly, they might as well build a whole new one. Mt. Davis only spans the east sideline, and they would probably have to rebuild the lower section, though it wouldn't be totally necessary. But, it would at least keep the costs down a little I suppose. Especially if they can design a cheaper alternative for the remaining 3 sides.
What kind of question is that, $$$ is your reason. In California state subsidies for stadiums don't exist. The Raiders don't have the kind of cash flow to go buy waterfront property and build a new stadium from scratch themselves. Plus they aren't in a position to ask fans to swallow $600 million in seat licenses like the 49ers were.No no no the Oakland coliseum needs to be completely knocking down.
I don't see why the can't build a new stadium like the titans & buccaneers have, have the endzone's running east to west with views of the Pacific Ocean to the west and the Oakland hills to the east
It's something that never has been done very well. I don't to call a true multipurpose stadium impossible, but the differences in field geometry and culture of the respective sports are so great no one has ever made a facility that is good for both. It's either a decent ballpark that's terrible for football or a good football stadium that's a terrible ballpark. Not that I don't support innovative design, but history would suggest it's a futile exercise.Thinking waaay outside the box, but it sounds like what Oakland needs is a new multipurpose stadium. Before everybody starts screaming that it's a horrible idea, stop and think about it. This isn't 1965. Surely, with todays technology and some imaginative thinking, a single stadium could be designed that would perfectly meet the needs of both teams.
This is an architecture forum. Architects drool over the opportunity to break new ground. Architects are supposed to meet the customer's needs. A modern multipurpose stadium for the city of Oakland would be a chance to do both.
Think about it --- then flame away.
Yeah, but that would make WAY too much sense to actually happen.If this goes through, then the Raiders can stay in THIS stadium and remodel it as a football specific facility... which is what should happen.
Exactly, it makes sense in almost every way, therefore it's too practical to actually happen. I'd love to see them renovate the Coliseum, but when your owner is a man who takes a private jet flight 500 miles specifically to get this haircut:But it has the added benefit of involving the least amount of effort on Mark's part. So it also uses the law of inertia to it's advantage.
Okay, so "Mount Davis" opened in 1996.
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How feasible would it be to tear down the rest of O.co, then build a stadium around that, with a similar look? Wouldn't be a palace like AT&T Stadium or where the Falcons or Vikings are going, but it would be an upgrade over the current setup.
So I scribbled/photoshopped my thoughts into a little concept for the Coliseum, if the A's moved out.
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The upper levels are separated into four stands with open entry plazas in each corner.
The exterior is intended as mesh screen system to give a modern, clean feel at fairly low price
point and could allow for images . A new wrap on the pedestrian bridge along with plantings
could make the walk from the BART station seem pleasant or exiting instead of like entering a
post apocalyptic deathcamp.
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The geometry of the bowl is intended to match Mt Davis while keeping everyone in the
new bowl much lower to the field with good sightlines. A cohesive seat color pattern fading from
black to white to black seems sharp.
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The new bowl is two levels served by a single wide concourse (about 90' wide) and has
concessions set into pockets to prevent lines from congesting the concourse.
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Mt. Davis gets a new field club with 3,500 seats and sixteen suites like the sidelines suites at
AT&T in Dallas. the Plaza and Club suites are basically as is and the Loge (top) suite level is
mostly converted into a new press box. Concourses and existing Club on this side would get a
refreshing, but are more or less kept as is. The field level also contains locker rooms,
mechanical space, storage etc.
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Under the the new south end there is space for locker rooms, storage, prep kitchens etc.
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The North and West sides are kept as simple as possible with simply the concourse level. Concessions and restrooms are stacked at the outer
edge of the concourse. Concession stands are rotated 90 degrees to
keep the que lines from clogging the concourse. This concourse is 90'
deep where with concession ques and a 56' clear circulation path.
The total rough count for this little idea comes out to about 62,000 with 84 suites and
7,200 club. The new seating area has maximum of 68 rows, Mt Davis has 86 rows after losing the first 6 row to add in the field club and suites.