would be cool if they actually kept the port cranes.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...3IDgCw&usg=AFQjCNEIsZXwr7PbAQhw01E_1WhuQ_AsrwOwner Mark Davis: Oakland is on its 'last chance' to keep Raiders
The Raiders want a new stadium and if something doesn't happen soon, they might be leaving Oakland. Owner Mark Davis said this week that he wants to stay in the city where his team has been since 1995, but he needs to see some progress as far as stadium planning goes.
An investment group led by the world's third-largest privately held real estate firm, Colony Capital LLC, made headlines in October when they promised to redevelop the coliseum-area into a 'sports and entertainment center.'
"We are very enthusiastic about the opportunity… to develop this unique property, which we expect will become a transformational and vital urban, residential sports and entertainment center for [Oakland]," Colony CEO Thomas J. Barrack, Jr. said in October, via the Oakland Tribune.
If Colony Capital's plans fizzle out though, the Raiders will likely be leaving Oakland.
"I don't want to call it a last-ditch effort, but it does seem to be the last chance that Oakland is going to get," Davis told the San Francisco Chronicle. "We can't continue to play in that stadium, with the baseball field and all of that stuff."
The Raiders lease at O.co Coliseum actually expired after the 2013 season and the team could've looked at moving to another city, but Davis and the Raiders agreed to a one-year extension to stay in Oakland. Davis made the agreement with hopes of seeing the stadium project move forward in 2014.
The Colony Capital deal looked promising when it was announced in October, but almost five months later, Davis hasn't heard anything regarding the project moving forward.
"They brought in Colony Capital and based on that, I decided to go ahead and do a one-year extension with them. But there's been no progress," Davis said. "I had high hopes when Colony Capital came in. I still do have hopes, but they're not as high because I haven't really heard anything positive from either group. It's gone silent again. We have to get something done."
If something doesn't get done, then 2014 could be the Raiders final year in Oakland. However, Davis didn't want to talk about a possible move to another city, "I don't want to talk about using someplace else for leverage," Davis said. "If I get something done in Oakland, I am staying."
The Raiders had a chance to move-in with the 49ers at their new stadium, but Davis decided that wasn't in the best interest of his team. That's a decision he still doesn't regret, "I really believe with the 49ers moving down to Santa Clara, and leaving the San Francisco Bay Area, that it leaves it wide open for someone to say, 'Wow, this is really a good opportunity for Oakland,' Davis said.
Besides the stadium deal, Davis touched on several topics during his lengthy interview with the Chronicle, which you can read here. If you're a Raiders fan, or you just want to read about Davis calling the 2012 Chiefs 'inept,' it's worth a click.
He really can't possibly be that stupid, can he?"I really believe with the 49ers moving down to Santa Clara, and leaving the San Francisco Bay Area ..."
I'm guessing they've tossed this idea around already, but I think it would be so costly, they might as well build a whole new one. Mt. Davis only spans the east sideline, and they would probably have to rebuild the lower section, though it wouldn't be totally necessary. But, it would at least keep the costs down a little I suppose. Especially if they can design a cheaper alternative for the remaining 3 sides.^^None of those sound feasible for a variety of reasons (lack of premium seating, capacity etc), but the one option that still makes sense to me is rebuilding the Coliseum; If they were to keep Mt. Davis with a rebuilt lower bowl containing new club seating it already has enough suites for the Raiders going forward. Then the other three sides could be rebuilt in a much simpler manner, without any suites or club seats bringing the cost way down. So if they rebuilt the lower portion of Mt. Davis with some suites and a field club, converted half of the top suite level into a new press box and did a simple two level stand the rest of the way (with a really big single concourse near street level to eliminate costly elevators/escalators) around you'd end up with about 60-62,000 seats, 7,000 club seats and about 88 suites. That sounds pretty functional and way cheaper than the new stadium options being thrown around. I know it's not as sexy as a new stadium, and the location isn't exactly scenic at the moment but it seems practical, at least to me.
I said a while back that they should be able to raise $600 million fairly easily. Even the Raiders can get $300 million in seat licenses, add $200 million from the NFL's G-4 loan program, and $100 million from naming rights. Then do like was said, remove everything but Mt. Davis, and make a very bare-bones bowl around the remaining three sides. Add some suites and the media areas above the bowl, and add just enough of an upper deck to raise the capacity to maybe 55,000. Once the cash flow improves, add to the west side upper deck. But they will have a (3/4) new stadium, with no one going further into debt.I'm guessing they've tossed this idea around already, but I think it would be so costly, they might as well build a whole new one. Mt. Davis only spans the east sideline, and they would probably have to rebuild the lower section, though it wouldn't be totally necessary. But, it would at least keep the costs down a little I suppose. Especially if they can design a cheaper alternative for the remaining 3 sides.
The Raiders may well have, and there could be any number of reasons for not persuing that option to this point (site issues, demolition costs etc). I would guess a lot of it is no one gets excited about a renovation the same way they get about a new building.I'm guessing they've tossed this idea around already, but I think it would be so costly, they might as well build a whole new one. Mt. Davis only spans the east sideline, and they would probably have to rebuild the lower section, though it wouldn't be totally necessary. But, it would at least keep the costs down a little I suppose. Especially if they can design a cheaper alternative for the remaining 3 sides.
What kind of question is that, $$$ is your reason. In California state subsidies for stadiums don't exist. The Raiders don't have the kind of cash flow to go buy waterfront property and build a new stadium from scratch themselves. Plus they aren't in a position to ask fans to swallow $600 million in seat licenses like the 49ers were.No no no the Oakland coliseum needs to be completely knocking down.
I don't see why the can't build a new stadium like the titans & buccaneers have, have the endzone's running east to west with views of the Pacific Ocean to the west and the Oakland hills to the east
Implode the 60's section of that stadium (which I know is MOST of it) and match it all with Mt. Davis.The pic below (taken from Mt. Davis) is looking almost due west, and shows the current stadium in football mode. Even though it's a drizzly day, you can tell that there is no view of the bay to speak of. And there are too many mountains on the far side of the bay for any ocean views. The round building just beyond the upper deck is Oracle Arena, where the Warriors play. Still a first rate arena, despite the claims of San Francisco.
We know that. If you go back a bit, it was mentioned that we are talking about what could happen after the A's left.um, the A's still play there