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a new round up is needed...
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Anyone want to work for the Birmingham Development Company? If you do, I think I speak for all of us when I say you're our mole.
^^It's a bit late now. Stage one was supposed to be finished by June 15th :|
Oh yea, I'm a fool. They should delete the link off the Mailbox site then really.

I also can't work out why they want your CV and a recent photograph. Is this a real job with them or doing bar work at Missing?
I don't think the Radisson was meant to be 5 star - none of their other properties seem to be - plus the size of the gym and lack of a pool would work against them. And if inspectors take into account the surrounding area - they're screwed.
There are plans afoot you'll be pleased to hear Stephen. I visited the offices of Kinetic AIU last week, as part of

I spied a model of a new building occupying that very site. I assume it's not been previewed here before, so this is an exclusive; It was a nice, slimline tower, between 10 & 20% taller than Beetham/HCT. I'm afraid i didn't get the chance to ask if it was a proposal or at what stage it was. Anyone know anymore?
Oh oh, this must be it - okay there's nothing on there except mixed use and expected for 2012. I'm hoping though some images might start appearing

I'm also rather glad I now know the name of that little building. St George's House.

So seems unlikely to be a vision? Thanks for the news mahill, very interesting
That might be it but it doesn't seem to feature on the picture. Either way I'll see what we get! :)
I know, so I did a Google search on St George House, and it's address is 32-34 Hill Street, Birmingham B5 4AN. And that does seem to be that nasty little building. I guess the picture is the view we'd have of a tower.

God I'm so obviously bored.
I'd love em to keep the sign (somewhere!). Even though it's tainted by Heinz, it still says something about a great brand that was born in Birmingham. By getting rid of it they're forgetting about the loyalty of the people of this area to something 'we' created and are still very proud of.
Hmmm hopefully BM&AG might try and get it for their Birmingham galleries
Dear Splop, nice name by the way...

... Companies are normally JUST companies whether they are British or non-British. The purchase of British companies by foreign based entities should occasionally be seen as an opportunity to change with the times and reinvigorate working communities, cities and regions.

The demolishing of an old building perhaps less fit for purpose in 2007, than in 1907, may have been a necessity in order to give that particular area a new opportunity to develop a new dynamic and capable business core to revive a faltering, stagnant, micro-economy. These foreign companies are sometimes needed to inject new money into such areas and the people/leaders investing this mostly hard-earned money are providing a massive vote of confidence for the area concerned.

Its misguided, ill-conceived myths of the fear of foreign investment that could significantly damage Birmingham's prospects of bringing in new wealth and investment in the same way other cities are having to reach beyond their boundaries and beyond their own shores to sustain the excellent growth that Urban UK is having at the moment. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
What twaddle. We're talking about foreign companies that buy a company then **** off elsewhere with it, leaving entire communities devastated. Like Heinz did here. There is no foreign investment here. Ironically, your argument seems to be it's good that the foreign companies pull out, as then the community gets extra money from the council and government - polar opposite to foreign investment, no?
Liam Byrne (birmingham hidge hill) is the new 'West Midlands Minister' a new power position created to be the champion for the region, he is very close the Brown and worked for him at the treasury I believe

another powerful voice for the city at the heart of government, first time I can remember so many Birmingham people so high up

the only problem is he replaces the idea of city regions
He also was and is Immigration Minister - also my MP. Which annoys me as he answered my question about the Parliament Act by sending me two copies of Hansard. So costing about £15, when I actually asked for his opinion.

The regional question times should be interesting at least. Though they should make use of the Town Hall and have a public question time with him every so often. I like the changes Brown's been making - pleasant surprise so far.
Is this official then? so there's gonna be no Mayor or Assembly for a Greater Birmingham? or has Gorden just appointed him to keep the seat warm for a mayor/assembly leader.
I think Brown still wants assemblies at least, as Cameron was knocking them during his response yesterday. Not sure how Brown feels about mayors, that said, despite him being chancellor for the past decade, I'm not sure how Brown feels on just about any issue.
It was announced last week, but it wasn't clear until the PM's statement yesterday as to how important these roles will be

Byrne to be most powerful politician in Midlands
Jul 4 2007

By Jonathan Walker, Political Editor

Birmingham MP Liam Byrne is to become the most powerful political figure in the West Midlands under radical plans unveiled by the Prime Minister yesterday.

Mr Byrne will be the public face of the region in dealing with central government while being answerable to MPs in regular parliamentary events dedicated to the region.

Describing his new role, the Birmingham Hodge Hill MP, who is already Immigration Minister, yesterday said: "Sometimes I will be the Minister for knocking heads together."

Under Gordon Brown's plan, as West Midlands Minister Mr Byrne will:

* Advise the Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Affairs - the new name for Trade and Industry - who should chair and sit on the board of Advantage West Midlands, the quango responsible for economic development, skills and tourism which spends £400 million a year.

* Co-ordinate local services and Whitehall departments in times of crisis such as flooding or major job losses n Become accountable to MPs in regular Commons question and answer sessions.

* Be interrogated by a new West Midlands Select Committee made up of local backbench MPs, which will have the power to demand answers from Ministers.

* Represent the West Midlands to government departments in Whitehall when policy is being drawn up or implemented, and champion the region at high profile events.

The plans may spell the end for hopes of creating a powerful West Midlands "city region", which was favoured by Tony Blair.

Mr Byrne was given his role as West Midlands champion last week, but it was only yesterday that the full significance of the position became clear.

"We have to make sure the billions of pounds being spent in the West Midlands over the next few years is spent properly," he said.

"I started this week by meeting the Transport Secretary to explain the importance of getting on with rebuilding Birmingham's New Street station.

"This role means there is someone speaking for the West Midlands who is able to pick up the phone and talk to anyone in Government."

Mr Brown set out his plans for the regions as he announced a major consultation on the way Britain is governed.

Other possible changes include lowering the voting age to 16, holding General Elections at weekends and drawing up a British Bill of Rights.

Mr Brown said the Prime Minister would lose a number of powers, such as the ability to declare war or sign international treaties without the approval of Parliament.

There will also be a new National Security Council, chaired by the Prime Minister, bringing together politicians, the military and security services.

The proposals were a "route map" rather than a "final blueprint" and there would be a major public consultation before any changes were made, he said.

Mr Brown, in his first statement to Parliament, told MPs: "I propose that in 12 areas important to our national life, the Prime Minister and Executive should surrender or limit their powers - the exclusive exercise of which by the Government should have no place in a modern democracy."

He added: "I now propose to surrender or limit these powers to make for a more open 21st century democracy." Tory leader David Cameron said he agreed with much of Mr Brown's statement but added there was a need for "real and lasting change" in the British system of politics.

He told Mr Brown: "The country is too centralised, Parliament is too weak, ministers don't get straight answers and people feel shut out of decision-making."

The reforms of regional government are very similar to plans set out by three of Mr Brown's close allies 12 months ago, while he was Chancellor.

In a pamphlet published by a think tank, Ed Balls, the Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families; John Healey, a local government Minister, and Chris Leslie, a former MP who helped run Mr Brown's recent leadership election campaign, called for regional ministers and select committees.

But at the time, the three Brown allies presented the proposals explicitly as an alternative to the idea of a city region.

A city region would involve Birmingham, Coventry and Black Country councils making joint decisions on issues such as housing, planning and economic development.

The MPs warned that creating city regions could lead to "a return to the old local antagonism" between big centres such as Birmingham and neighbouring towns and cities.

The Prime Minister outlined his latest thinking on the day that council leaders from across the West Midlands joined forces to demand greater powers from the Government.

The West Midlands Local Government Association said councils could be trusted by Ministers to run services effectively and provide value for money. Burdensome Whitehall regulation and red tape was stifling local decision making.
This is good for the mayoral debate:
5000? Is that it?

Otherwise it's all a none-story isn't it? The minister confirms that the council aren't really blocking the petition, just obeying the law, but he threw in a bit of party politics?

Would this 5k include the previous Post petition which turned into this (I think I read someone saying this is what happened as no-one really paid attention to the Post one?)
Yep. I started a thread named 'Liverpool Construction Forum' asking the simple question should we get our own as Liverpool has to help clear up the current Birmingham sub-forum and be more informative for others. Brum X - as per usual kicked up a fuss and was adamant the thread title should'nt be posted on a Birmingham forum. being as pathetic as that it was subsequently deleted thanks to he/she not bothering to realise what we were actually talking about.
Agree we need the sub-forum.

Also agree about Brum X's comments - especially that no other city other than Birmingham should be mentioned here - wonder how Coventry, Solihull, Telford etc will feel about that.
Point made, now lets move on. Next story
Isn't that just slightly hypocritical given you're the one who brought it up on this thread?
Suppose it will actually use that corner for something, wonder if the views from the steps are good though?

Also not sure about the pillars. If they're stone might be okay, but worried they might be meant to be gold as the documents don't list materials. Stone or wrought ironwork would look best I think.

At least it's themed though, hope it's done well though.

I'd *guess* Rotunda Sq is private property?
I agree that BCC need to be more open, though not necessarily about commercial deals. I think they should be more open and explain their processes for projects such as New Street and the Library - even if it's just paperwork, tell us what stage we're at, what's being done etc. At the moment the long silences just seem like everything is being forgotten.
6 continents died ages ago with the hub hub of Intercontinental etc.
As for FTSE 100 etc, it depends where they list their business - some companies list in US and under different listings. As my friend says its legalised gambling the stock market.

Simon, yes National Express own TWM. Look at their website, they own a darn site more too.

Wouldn't that just be gambling in this country? :p
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