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venues in leeds futre and existing

main stadium
1. to be built maybe near the motorway if any olypic activity 5000 - 5500 maybe
2.arena for hosts of inddor sports and others
3.elland road
4.south leeds stadium -football and practice centre
5.headingly stadiums -for all uses maybe
6.practice pithes to be built
7millenium square?,university sports centres
8.castleford stadium,
9. x scape
10.btaley ,emly,other small stadiums for practice maybe in the area
11.garforth
12.the international pool,new diving pool being built,
13.others any ideas

please include some more venues ive missed if leeds were to hold any games :)
 

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No offence, but Leeds and any other UK city stand NO chance of hosting ANY Olympic games, certainly not in the next 100 years.
Other games might be possible aka Commonwealth games when it is next the UK's 'turn' to host them - however these are becomming less prestigious each year - Australia's top athletes boycotted the last one since they don't want to be in the commonwealth.
Leeds might also get something like the 'student games' but these are hardly prestigious.
Best we can hope for are Rugby League and Cricket internationals. Maybe if England hosts any major tournaments Elland Road could be used, but we need to get back to the Prem and build a new West Stand first to increase the capacity/facilities.
 

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Perhaps if Leeds United were to relocate a new stadium could be built to host the European Athletics Championships. This athletic stadium could then be converted to football. A la the City of Manchester Stadium. But I doubt it.
 

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You really need to learn how to spell olympic. Also I think 2014 is the UK but not sure. I doubt we'd get olympics for a while after London 2012 but if we do then it will probably be London again.
 

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He also needs to learn what "Olympic" actually means, not to mention how to write proper sentences in English...
 

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Remember the Olympics are a world wide event, therefore most countries in the world want to host them. Also they aren't too keen on going back to the same country too often, and they only happen every 4 years.
Therefore if you imagine, there are 4 other continents who will want to host the Olympics. When it does come round to Europes turn there will be France, Germany, Italy etc etc etc all ahead of the UK in the queue, since we are hosting in 2012. Then once Europe has had it's turn, other continents will get a turn again etc etc.
So given that it is every 4 years, I wouldn't expect to see it back in the UK for at least 100 years (ie it will be hosted by 25 other countries before it is hosted by the UK again, at least).
When the UK does host it, as LN1 states, it will likely be London for obvious reasons.

I don't know what you mean by 'Smaller Olympic activities'? If you mean as practice facilities/team bases for when London hosts the 2012 Olympics, then perhaps the South Leeds Stadium facilities, Thorpe Arch training complex (LUFC), Kirkstall training centre (Rugby), Carnegie facilities are all potential sites.

Can't see LUFC relocating, I think Mr Bates has big plans for all that spare land around the ground. If a new West Stand were built at Elland Road, to match the East stand, then it would be an awesome ground with a large capacity. Wouldn't cost TOO much but obviously Premiership status would be required to fund it/fill it.

LeedsTheBest - did you go to the same school as Rhinomatt? Actually that's unfair as Rhinomatt's grammar and spelling have vastly improved. Maybe you could type what you want to say into Microsoft Word first, then run a spell check and a grammar check, then copy and paste into here?
 

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I think there's confusion here - LeedsTheBest - are you talking about Leeds being used for a team base/training during the 2012 London Olympics? Or are you talking about Leeds hosting future Athletics/Sporting events?
 

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Since the announcement that the uk had won the battle to host the 2012 olympics, how do people think things are progressing?
Is the country feeling the benefits?
Is the north feeling the benefits?
Is the london feeling the benefits?
Are you feeling the benefits?
 

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Since the announcement that the uk had won the battle to host the 2012 olympics, how do people think things are progressing?
Is the country feeling the benefits?
Is the north feeling the benefits?
Is the london feeling the benefits?
Are you feeling the benefits?
Question 1
No.nobody is except Athletes and athletics fans.(oh and a temporary rise in hotel bookings)
Question 2
No,its down south.what the F*** has it got to do wi us?
Question 3
Cockney:-"No,cause we are all(Londoners) paying for it unlike those Northern Slags BLAH BLAH BLAH Cor blimey governor,leave it out ,apples and pears and all that Boll****.(despite the fact that if anything ever comes out of this it will come to us, BLAH BLAH lets go down the Elephant and Castle and sing songs about our dear old mum around the old Joanna ).
Question 4
No.

Its all for an elite of people trying to pretend that they are doing good for the run down areas of a city.Did this work for Manchester and the Commonwealth Games?
No its still run down thats why they wanted the "Super Casino" to help regenerate the same part of their city that was still run down (despite the millions invested for the commonwealth games in the same area) again.

One off Sporting events do not necessarily bring prosperity,only a bit of a name.
well,ok with the exception of Barcelona.But that place IS beautiful.
 

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Its all for an elite of people trying to pretend that they are doing good for the run down areas of a city.Did this work for Manchester and the Commonwealth Games?
No its still run down thats why they wanted the "Super Casino" to help regenerate the same part of their city that was still run down (despite the millions invested for the commonwealth games in the same area) again.

One off Sporting events do not necessarily bring prosperity,only a bit of a name.
well,ok with the exception of Barcelona.But that place IS beautiful.
You'd be surprised at the regeneration around the CG site, it's huge and ONGOING. It doesn't happen overnight y'know! And the Super Casino plot was left empty as it has always been 'earmarked' for it! :bash:

New East Manchester weren't named the best regeneration company for nothing!
 

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You'd be surprised at the regeneration around the CG site, it's huge and ONGOING. It doesn't happen overnight y'know! And the Super Casino plot was left empty as it has always been 'earmarked' for it! :bash:

New East Manchester weren't named the best regeneration company for nothing!

So how come the great and the good of Manchester appeared on tv with big smiles informing the rest of the country that the area badly needed regeneration as it had suffered years of neglect,all this said with the City of Manchester stadium behind them in the interview.

And ,if as you say,the area has always been earmarked for a super casino then how come the legislation for such places was not introduced until the 2005 Gambling Act,well after the "regeneration " of the area for the commonwealth games had begun.

If it was the case that building sporting facilities for one off large sporting events would regenerate a run down area on a long term basis then everybody would be trying to get in on the act.

Quote from a Manc about the facilities for the commonwealth games
"The regeneration of Manchester was purley for the games period and now they are over and all eyes are off the city all the regeneration plans have vertually come to a complete stand still. The Commonwealth Games was called 'The Friendley Games'. I don't think that making somewhere look temporarily nice for the benefit of the reputation of the city is friendly do you?"

Also look at Sheffield,despite a phenomenal amount of money been directed to it in terms of sporting facilities for major events it really has not improved the lives of ordinary people there.

When the games arent on the jobs are gone.
 

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Well, does Barcelona have council estates? And yes Manchester needs much more regeneration than Barcelona ever will, hence why this is ONGOING!

Re: The Venues -

COMS - Used by Man City and a lot of community groups
VELODROME - Constantly in public use
POOL - Constantly in public use
SQUASH CENTRE - Constantly in public use
TABLE TENNIS CENTRE - Constantly in public use
REGIONAL ATHLETICS ARENA - Built after the CG, used by local teams and community groups

What more do you want from these venues? I see Barcelonas Olympic Stadium is used a lot? Actually, no, it isn't.

The CG has done wonders for the WHOLE of Manchester.

It cave the City more confidence, more developments and more facilities and more jobs.

Hundreds of homes have been built/are being built.
A new community created (New Islington)
Holt Town is about to undergo MASSIVE regeneration.
Central Park has been built and still being expanded, which is a huge new jobs base.

It's down to the people to improve their lives, if they don't want to use the facilities or support the ONGOING regeneration, then that's their problem.

The Trams will be sailing through there soon, triggering even more investment into the area, more homes, more businesses, more jobs.

You obviously aren't from Manc, so you can't tell a Manc that it's not working, because it is.

Yes, there still are scummy parts, but they will soon be undergoing redevelpopment, change takes time, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will this be.

We're not talking about an estate being redeveloped either, it's the WHOLE of East Manchester. What they've done in 5 years since the CG is immense, it's what they do in the next 15 that will really surprise you.

And with or without the casino, that 'tiny' plot (in the whole scheme of things) next to the Stadium, will be developed.



Here's the proof: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=258287


Oh one more thing...without the success of the hosting of the Commonwealth Games in Manc, could you have invisaged London actually hosting the Olympics in 2012, after the Wembley & Potters Fields debarcles?

You could say the whole Stratford redevelopment was partly down to Manchester.

Manc not only gave confidence to itself, but to the whole country in thinking that we can organise and host a successful major sporting event. It's now down to London to deliver.
 

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Fair enough then! But i bet you had to look to find out, due to not being sure! ;)

They've only used it since 1998 though, 6 whole years unsused! Where the COMS was converted immediately.

But yeah, none of the venues used are white elephants.

Leeds would be a good candidate for the CG, may give the council a kick up the arse to finally build an arena!
 

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Re: The Venues -

COMS - Used by Man City and a lot of community groups
VELODROME - Constantly in public use
POOL - Constantly in public use
SQUASH CENTRE - Constantly in public use
TABLE TENNIS CENTRE - Constantly in public use
REGIONAL ATHLETICS ARENA - Built after the CG, used by local teams and community groups

What more do you want from these venues? I see Barcelonas Olympic Stadium is used a lot? Actually, no, it isn't.

The CG has done wonders for the WHOLE of Manchester.

It cave the City more confidence, more developments and more facilities and more jobs.

Hundreds of homes have been built/are being built.
A new community created (New Islington)
Holt Town is about to undergo MASSIVE regeneration.
Central Park has been built and still being expanded, which is a huge new jobs base.

It's down to the people to improve their lives, if they don't want to use the facilities or support the ONGOING regeneration, then that's their problem.

The Trams will be sailing through there soon, triggering even more investment into the area, more homes, more businesses, more jobs.

You obviously aren't from Manc, so you can't tell a Manc that it's not working, because it is.

Yes, there still are scummy parts, but they will soon be undergoing redevelpopment, change takes time, Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will this be.

We're not talking about an estate being redeveloped either, it's the WHOLE of East Manchester. What they've done in 5 years since the CG is immense, it's what they do in the next 15 that will really surprise you.

And with or without the casino, that 'tiny' plot (in the whole scheme of things) next to the Stadium, will be developed.



Here's the proof: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=258287


Oh one more thing...without the success of the hosting of the Commonwealth Games in Manc, could you have invisaged London actually hosting the Olympics in 2012, after the Wembley & Potters Fields debarcles?

You could say the whole Stratford redevelopment was partly down to Manchester.

Manc not only gave confidence to itself, but to the whole country in thinking that we can organise and host a successful major sporting event. It's now down to London to deliver.[/QUOTE]


Are you seriously suggesting that if the CG had not gone ahead then Manchesters much needed regeneration of its housing etc would not have begun and that if the CG had not happened then the authorities would had sat back and left these areas alone to decay.
The jobs base at centarl park you mention,did the planners of this think
"Lets build it here cos thats where the Games were here"

Clearly not as Leeds is undergoing massive regeneration ,not only commercially but socially without even a sniff of an international tiddlywinks game(not that we would have anywhere to stage it) and so are many other Northern cities.

Public use of these sporting facilities is by members of the public with particular sporting interests(with the exception of the swimming pool),and therefore only benefit the few.


The effect of the CG on Leeds was less than minimal and i expect that the effect on Leeds of the Olympics may only be marginally higher.
 

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Are you seriously suggesting that if the CG had not gone ahead then Manchesters much needed regeneration of its housing etc would not have begun and that if the CG had not happened then the authorities would had sat back and left these areas alone to decay.
The jobs base at centarl park you mention,did the planners of this think
"Lets build it here cos thats where the Games were here"
Possibly, who knows, it may have happened, it may not have, but at least the CG was a catalyst for something which could have taken years to come to fruitition.

Clearly not as Leeds is undergoing massive regeneration ,not only commercially but socially without even a sniff of an international tiddlywinks game(not that we would have anywhere to stage it) and so are many other Northern cities.
Inner city areas even? I think it's safe to say that Leeds was already more well off when it comes to 'Inner City' areas compared to Manc, which has some of the poorest wards in the country. Leeds is going through the 'ripple effect' from the City Centre, which is what is happening in Manc too, but due to more poorer inner city areas in Manc, many need an extra 'kickstart'. The CG was perfect for Manchester.

Public use of these sporting facilities is by members of the public with particular sporting interests(with the exception of the swimming pool),and therefore only benefit the few..
Can benefit a lot if they get off their arses, but you try to change social lifestyles, it takes years.


The effect of the CG on Leeds was less than minimal and i expect that the effect on Leeds of the Olympics may only be marginally higher.
You probably got a few tourists out of it, which you may do for the London olympics, but obviously the host cities tend to benefit from it! :)
 
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