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LOL what are you talking about guys contruction pick up and market oversupply
This whole thread should give a pretty good explanation. Most linked articles in the recent months seem concerned about a supply of newly finished construction projects that isn't met with the same level of demand. Residential prices have been dropping 15 % year-on-year for a couple of years now. The total floor area of retail estate is set to triple within the next few years, but nobody projects tourism or population growth to increase nearly as fast. Office space is apparently seeing less of a demand too, yet new offices are being cranked out at a high pace.

dubai just announced 2 supertalls in 1 week
Dubai Financial Market HQ
Well, that's a truth with some modifications to it, as they say. To begin with this first one, it's a newly announced design all right, but the project itself was announced in early 2016. Note the bit where it says "to be completed within three to four years", this one has clearly been in the cards for a while but failed to materialize until now.

This one is even less recent. It's just the most recently proposed design for a project stuck in development hell since 2008, without much indication that it will come to fruition quickly this time either.

Proposals and announcements are still coming out of Dubai at a really high pace, but many of the supertalls never seem to get off the ground. Anybody remember, say, Ciel Tower, Entisar Tower or Burj Jumeirah? We keep hearing about a construction supposed to start at any moment, but on their sites the same dust keeps being shifted around, moved only by the wind.
 
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Entisar tower and burj jumeirah 500m+ are very complex projects and not every day towers
towers that heigh lets compare say to ping an in shenzhen and lotte tower in seoul both took 7 years to be built in So called super power countries
i thing we really should give dubai time
 

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Dubai Towers from planning to launch to activity on site takes 4 to 5 years ... this is basic Dubai knowledge.

NOT TRUE, Financial Market HQ was planned for a totally different plot and design in BB and NOT where they decided this year to build it so, IT IS a new project.

A simple google search will prove that the progress and population in Dubai has hugely increased in the past 10 years and this will continue with the market cycles being taken into consideration.

The same complains about Dubai were exactly said in 2009, 10 years ago, and if I remember correctly, everyone was like OMG dubai is canceled Dubai is over, and now this is happening again and I can bet it will happen in ~2029. Humanity short memory never cease to impress me.

ALL this being said and with all the complains, Dubai is still leading in construction and we are in the lowest point in the market cycle, this speaks volume compared to 2009!
 

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Dubai Towers from planning to launch to activity on site takes 4 to 5 years ... this is basic Dubai knowledge.

NOT TRUE, Financial Market HQ was planned for a totally different plot and design in BB and NOT where they decided this year to build it so, IT IS a new project.

A simple google search will prove that the progress and population in Dubai has hugely increased in the past 10 years and this will continue with the market cycles being taken into consideration.

The same complains about Dubai were exactly said in 2009, 10 years ago, and if I remember correctly, everyone was like OMG dubai is canceled Dubai is over, and now this is happening again and I can bet it will happen in ~2029. Humanity short memory never cease to impress me.

ALL this being said and with all the complains, Dubai is still leading in construction and we are in the lowest point in the market cycle, this speaks volume compared to 2009!
It will be great if someone can make infographic show what being built in each cycle:
2000-2010
2010-2020
 

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The Chinese state-owned contractor was “actively involved” in the tender process for the $1bn (AED3.67bn) super-tall Dubai Creek Tower, which is being jointly developed by Emaar Properties and Dubai Holding as part of the 6km2 Dubai Creek Harbour master development.
 

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Those flat top cranes to the left of the Island in the distance, is that the approx location of the Creek Tower? Or are those for the Mall?
I think they are for the Mall, or something else.

If you go to the area on Google Maps, you can use the "measure distance" tool as a straightedge. A sign in the photo tells you it is taken from Al Jaddaf Marine Transport Station, which is here. You can tell the exact vantage point of the photographer, the east corner of the building. Right-click on the spot and select "measure distance", then go do the same at the site of Dubai Creek Tower. The straight line between the two points goes through the edge of the Harbour Gate Hotel, so a crane standing next to the tower wouldn't be that visible from where the photo was taken - it would be at least partially behind the building. A crane would be very visible if it stood near the northeast edge of the Dubai Creek Tower site, but the question still remains why you would place a crane there.

Upon a little further inspection of the area on Google Maps, I think the cranes seen here could be likely candidates for being the ones in the picture. The other crane seen below the right one is found on a site a couple hundred meters south of them. It's a mobile crane, so naturally its location would move around a bit, but the colour appears to match.
 

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The Belgian company is also in the running to build the Dubai Creek Harbour project, which will be the highest tower in the world, rumoured to be 1 km high. “Officially it is not yet known how high the tower will be, but it will be the highest in the world,” said Vandeven. “We hope that within a few months time, it will become clear who is going to build it and then hopefully we can start with that as well. Our file for that has been sent in,” he said.

from 23rd Oct article:
https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/75123/belgian-company-to-build-gigantic-hotel-in-dubai-with-100-swimming-pools/
 

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I think they are for the Mall, or something else.

If you go to the area on Google Maps, you can use the "measure distance" tool as a straightedge. A sign in the photo tells you it is taken from Al Jaddaf Marine Transport Station, which is here. You can tell the exact vantage point of the photographer, the east corner of the building. Right-click on the spot and select "measure distance", then go do the same at the site of Dubai Creek Tower. The straight line between the two points goes through the edge of the Harbour Gate Hotel, so a crane standing next to the tower wouldn't be that visible from where the photo was taken - it would be at least partially behind the building. A crane would be very visible if it stood near the northeast edge of the Dubai Creek Tower site, but the question still remains why you would place a crane there.

Upon a little further inspection of the area on Google Maps, I think the cranes seen here could be likely candidates for being the ones in the picture. The other crane seen below the right one is found on a site a couple hundred meters south of them. It's a mobile crane, so naturally its location would move around a bit, but the colour appears to match.
yes they belong to the northern bridge construction site
 

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That article must be quite old, as it says about the Royal Atlantis Hotel: "There’s nothing upright yet, only some foundations, but we planned it that way”

In fact the Royal Atlantis Hotel is almost completed. So the article must have been written a few years ago.
 

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I had a chat with the real estate people from the sales centre and it appears the chinese company just got the contract awarded. nothing public though
 
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I had a chat with the real estate people from the sales centre and it appears the chinese company just got the contract awarded. nothing public though
If you can't trust sales people, who can you trust! :nuts:
 
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I just saw this article about Emaar selling "at the top". If the deal goes through this would help with a few of the doubts about the DCH Tower:

1. It being competition with BK. They would actually be incentivised to make a more attractive observation deck and take business away from the BK.
2. $1bn is not far off the projected project cost.

For what it's worth, when I was recently in Dubai and speaking to real estate people (who were not trying to sell me anything in DCH), they all seemed certain that it was a case of "when" not "if" the tower gets built.
 
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I just saw this article about Emaar selling "at the top". If the deal goes through this would help with a few of the doubts about the DCH Tower:

1. It being competition with BK. They would actually be incentivised to make a more attractive observation deck and take business away from the BK.
2. $1bn is not far off the projected project cost.

For what it's worth, when I was recently in Dubai and speaking to real estate people (who were not trying to sell me anything in DCH), they all seemed certain that it was a case of "when" not "if" the tower gets built.
I thinnk its for competition reasons not for money reasons because thy just lunched the 9 billion $ the valley last month
 
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