Anyone else in love with this building, and want to see another similar building constructed at the 900 foot range???
Right. Also significantly higher maintenance fees; $14,000/year on 1 bedrooms, $30,000/year for the largest 2 bedrooms and townhomes (~1/sqft/month). Uptown fees are about 60 cents/sqft/month but with much more energy dense configuration (more kitchens/bathrooms/people per sqft).True, but it also had a much, much bigger budget than the Uptown as they were marketed to completely different income levels.
What are you talking about? How does the photo illustrate your point? It's simply your opinion and we know your fondness for complaining, which you've already admitted to in another thread.This photo illustrates my point. The white stone looks cheap, the windows look even cheaper, and those black bay windows don't help one little bit. Compare that to the entrance which looks amazing and what the rest of the tower should have looked like.
Practically everything posted on SSC is someone's opinion. Isn't that a given?What are you talking about? How does the photo illustrate your point? It's simply your opinion and we know your fondness for complaining, which you've already admitted to in another thread.
They did a substantially better job than that disaster downtown they call 'the French Quarter', but you're wrong when you argue that it's not possible to create similar quality today.Really? I don't think it looks cheap up close. It is not a building from the '20's and is built with modern materials. We, nor any other city is ever going to get a skyscraper made in the same way the Chrysler Tower was; those days are long gone. Contemporary materials are here to stay, for better or worse. :dunno:
Its a different situation though. Of course some European cities replaced (with varying degrees of success) buildings of three or four storeys after World War II (half a century ago, when there were still more stone masons around and people gladly worked for peanuts). These town centres were integral to the very soul of European cities and they wanted them to look the same after the war as they had before.
We are not old European cities and we do not have the same historical mindset. We are part of the New World that looks to the future for new inspiration, not trying to recreate what existed in the past. Our forefathers left places like Europe hoping to leave it behind and start up our own hybrid societies here. They were much more open to moving with the times and evolving.
But most importantly, "recreating" a three or four storey building is no where close to the concept of "recreating" 103 storey towers like the Empire State Building. Mies van der Rhoe and some other architects of the Bauhaus movement were instrumental in convincing society that modern "skyscrapers" should be modern and not try to mimic long ago styles like Gothic, Egyptian, etc... In their opinion it was dishonest to dress up a modern tower as if it were something built in the 1300's. Not to mention that the proportions of a skyscraper are completely different to a small building.
I'm very much in favour of hanging on to what we have of our past, and I even like the odd tall building that is reminiscent of the past. But I have no desire to start building "skyscrapers" the way they did in the 1920's, and frankly I doubt if they could even if they tried. It would be prohibitively expensive and we lack the same technicians that were common back then.
My God! We don't agree on most things but when I read this it was if I was saying it myself! Well said! Agreed 100%! :cheers:Yeah but Taller, why are we putting restrictions on ourselves? There is no law saying we can only produce modern, glass buildings and if there were, I'd say, defy that law. We should be free to build beautiful buildings of any style.
I much prefer older styled buildings like Art Deco. I think Toronto needs more old style deco buildings. I want to see art and decoration brought back into architecture. Flat glass walls just don't do much for me. I need some sculptural qualities and a mix of quality materials.
I don't expect it to happen in Toronto but if/when it does, I'll be cheering. I await the day that grey spandrel is a dirty word in this city. (and banned forever)
If these stunning buildings can be built in Germany, surely we can appreciate them enough to build them here!!!Those interested in that thread about recreating past architecture: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=176535
This building in Germany is brand new. You'd be shocked at how many 'old' buildings around the world actually went up post 1980. People don't realize, because the quality of the re-production is spot on.
A good 70% of the buildings posted are done so well you wouldn't know they're new. Some are obviously compromised, but you can tell immediately. One St. Thomas would fall into that category.