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Which is a better location, Hamilton or Pickering?

  • Hamilton's John C. Munroe International

    Votes: 61 80.3%
  • Pickering

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In response to the existing threadHamilton pushes airport development, I thought I'd create this poll to get everyones opinion. I put it in the Canada forum because I was unsure how many people peruse the Ontario one.

Hamilton city council is taking measures to be competitive with Pickering to have the next big airport for the GTA. For those not in the know, a Pickering airport has been planned in since the 1970's. The land is already set aside. Hamilton already has an international airport, but it's not very large. It could feasibly serve as a major node. I'm not sure when construction would theoretically begin, but I'm guessing within 10-20 years. I'm too lazy to look it up.

Pro's and Cons...

Hamilton Pro's:

- airport already exists.. could be expanded at a slower, by demand pace
- Hamilton is geographically central to Southern Ontario's population centres... the Golden Horseshoe, Niagara, the Golden Triangle, and London. It is also adjacent to Toronto's fastest growing side (that being the west, of course)
- easy to get to... the 403 runs right past it, with a dedicated route to the airport. The 407's western terminus is about 15 km away
- airport is adjacent to a large, compact urban centre (roughly 6-8km away from downtown.. I think. Just a guess)


Hamilton's Con's

- it's farther from downtown TO than Pickering, but not actually by much.


Pickering's Pro's

- it's adjacent to Toronto
- the 407's eastern terminus is right there
- clean slate (if that's a pro?)

Pickering's Con's

- location is remote to where Southern Ontario's growth is concentrated


If I'm not mistaken, I think that John C. Munroe International (Hamilton) is closer to a GO transit station than the Pickering site...

and, heres a link to John C. Munroes website.. worth a look
 

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I feel that Hamilton would be MUCH better in terms of becoming an international airport. Location is key.
 

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Roch5220 said:
^ Exactly. Which is why pickering is a better location, on the other side of Toronto.
on the other side, with Whitby and Ajax.

on the west side you have Mississauga, Oakville, Burlington, Hamilton... not to mention K/W, London, and Niagara.
 

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I wouldn't necessarily say the location would be remote for pickering, since it would share half of Toronto, and atleast half of York Region. Also, my guess is that pickering would be a smaller airport (like Laguadia) vs Pearson. If anything, Hamilton would be more remote. If you lived in Oshawa, and had to fly out of Hamilton, that is crazy (as I guess different airlines would use each airport for different destinations, as oppose to mini duplicating. Even Toronto/York Region to Hamilton would be stretching it a lot.
 

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well, in my opinion, I think Hamilton would be more convenient to more people and industry than Pickering. I see that the GTA's momentum lies to the west and north, and not the east. Of course, though, Pickering would be closer to York region, as you mentioned.

I tried to find a decent map to illustrate this.... couldn't find anything.
 

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I heard they'd have to go over farms and houses and stuff to make one in Pickering, and because of the location, and the fact that most of it is built, Hamilton would probably be a better option, probably cheaper too.
 

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An airport ten minutes away from my house would be cool, but on the other hand the way the runway is set up planes would be flying right over my house.
 

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It would cost Hamilton airport $100 million to get it up into good shape, new terminal and serviced lands (water and electricity). Whereas in Pickering it will cost $2 billion.

I think in a time when the province is trying to deal with its deficit and is short for cash it just makes more sense to put money towards Hamilton airport.
 

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Steeltown said:
It would cost Hamilton airport $100 million to get it up into good shape, new terminal and serviced lands (water and electricity). Whereas in Pickering it will cost $2 billion.

I think in a time when the province is trying to deal with its deficit and is short for cash it just makes more sense to put money towards Hamilton airport.
You mean 100 million just for servicing the area around the airport, right? I don't think anyones put a number to, or even thought about, the specifics of upgrading the actual airport.
 

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Well the most recent news was that Pickering would be a domestic hub, to increase the international capacity of Pearson and make it into an Atlanta-type airport, with people transfering to other flights to the US and across Canada.
 

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bluenoser said:
Isn't Hamilton already international?
it is, but it isn't really a major airport. It's very small.. doesn't compare at all to Pearson.

The funny thing is, often people prefer Hamilton over Toronto because the airport is so easy to get in and out of.
 

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algonquin said:
The funny thing is, often people prefer Hamilton over Toronto because the airport is so easy to get in and out of.
We'll, if we were going on convience, then we should be pushing for the expansion of the islands airport. Kick off those free loading islanders, and expand the airport. While were at it, put up a casino + hotels. What goes on in the islands, stays on the islands.
 

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I go to Halifax a lot and I remember I used have to go to Toronto Airport. But now I only have to take a 10 minute drive and get on CanJet. Plus it's cheap.

Here's Hamilton airport routes

 

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I'm going for Hamilton though there is a strong bias towards it. The eastern suburbs/cities have never appealed to me to go to. They just seem farther away than Hamilton (even though they are not in reality) as well as not being as good a candidate for a big airport.
 
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