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nice graphics on those bus, they sure are crazy about Canada cuz of the maple leaf graphic on the bus. Looks like those are New Flyer D60LF and D40 (old one). :)
 

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I live in Ottawa and I've never been on the O-train...shame on me!:eek:hno:

I hope Ottawa gets an underground but I think our geology (granite) makes it difficult.
 

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Well, when I was in Ottawa around Easter this year, I made a trip with the specific intent on riding the O-Train. Its so out of place in Ottawa, that unless you live along its corridor, you will never have the need to ride it. Only if you're a transit enthusiast, like me:)

Its a five station , two train, one rail line....the trains have to wait for one another at mid-point so they can bypass each other:|

Its a shame our capital cannot afford something better, but good to hear about its expansion:yes:
 

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From the map, it looks like a very important bypass link. But come on...increase the frequency, give it double-tracking and build it to donwtown.
 

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Well, when I was in Ottawa around Easter this year, I made a trip with the specific intent on riding the O-Train. Its so out of place in Ottawa, that unless you live along its corridor, you will never have the need to ride it. Only if you're a transit enthusiast, like me:)

Its a five station , two train, one rail line....the trains have to wait for one another at mid-point so they can bypass each other:|

Its a shame our capital cannot afford something better, but good to hear about its expansion:yes:
The O-train was designed to test the possibility of light rail in Ottawa....so it wasnt meant to be the perfect system. But it did the job well, and I hope that other cities in Canada can learn from the test (like Toronto).

The questions that matter now are related to the expansion and the conversion to the new light rail line...

*Why is the O-Train going to be shut down when it could be run concurrently with the new system?
*Why is the government so gung ho about this new light rail plan?
*Why does the government want to spend money in unnecessary ways, eg. building a new train yard on untouched land, while the Wakely Yards could be easily converted.
*Why OC Transpo hasnt wised up to using the Transitway properly...operate it like a rapid-transit system only, not the current rapid transit + bus highway into downtown

Cheers, m
 

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I think the whole idea of Ottawa's LRT is ridiculous.

Why not simply transfer the existing transitway to rail????? with a reallignment on Carling for better ridership.
The ROW and stations are there and can be done grdually with little disruption.
Ottawa's LRT plan seems more like a make work project than anything else.
 

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It will eventually (should) become an EW line as well as NS, it'll just take lots of time, money, and political goodwill.

They can't just transfer the transitway to rail because it'd cost too much. Plus, they want to concentrate on new services, not just the ones that are already being well-served.
 

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Right now the O-train looks and feels too much like a commuter rail service; after they switch to electric trams and extend it to a more local area then it will start becoming light rail (which will hopefully be soon).
 

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Ottawa: $4 billion, 25-year LRT Plan

City unveils 4 transit, tunnel options
The city unveiled four options for its "Downtown rapid transit network" Monday, an update to the city's Transportation Master Plan, first unveiled by mayor's task force chair David Collenette last June.

"I am pleased that every option put before us today confirms the mayor's task force on transportation's recommendation to address downtown congestion with the use of a downtown tunnel," said Mayor Larry O'Brien. "Making the right transit choice for Ottawa is the most important decision that city council will make during its term."

The four options outlined in the report include: a bus-based tunnel plan with an O-train component; a bus and light rail transit (LRT) tunnel with a north-south LRT; a tunnel exclusively for an LRT, in conjunction with an O-Train and an east-west LRT; and lastly an LRT tunnel, with both east-west and north-south LRT lines.

The plans address four, long-term priorities: building a downtown transit tunnel; completing the Transitway; implementing rapid transit using the Cumberland Transitway alignment; and implementing light rail transit to Ottawa's southeastern growth area, the city said in a release.

"The downtown rapid transit network addresses the city's main areas of congestion and builds from the core out - addressing the downtown and determining the best way to serve communities in the west, south and east," said Nancy Schepers, deputy city manager, planning, transit and environment.

In a public consultation launched in the fall of 2007, Ottawa residents were asked to provide their input on transportation issues through a variety of mediums, and they asked for efficiency, convenience, reliability and comfort.

Also, a strong preference, particularly by downtown merchants, was expressed for a downtown tunnel.

"The public's involvement is vital for building a sustainable transit system," said Bay Coun. Alex Cullen, who is also the chair of the city's transit committee.

The city is accepting comments on the four options through a variety of venues, including public open houses and online at ottawa.ca. The feedback will be included in an April 16 report in which staff will recommended one of the four options.

If everything occurs on schedule, council will be making a final decision on the matter May 28, the city said.

"The City's transit plan needs to have a direct impact for current users and also encourage new people to begin using transit in the City of Ottawa," said Mayor O'Brien. "I encourage all Ottawa residents to tune in, get involved and share their expectations on the future of transit in our city."

The Transportation Master Plan.

Source: Ottawa Business Journal
This is very promising news for Ottawa, if you ask me, a city that has been wracked with controversy over new transit developments over the past few years. Ideally, I'd like to see the fourth plan approved (north-south and east-west subways through downtown), but so long as the city can finally get away from the BRT-system we're plagued with thanks to the short-sightedness of city planners in the 70s, I'll be happy.

A world class transit system for Canada's national capital may finally be on it's way! :D
 

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For a little background info, current Ottawa transit network. All of these routes are BRT, except the O-Train:



And this is how downtown "rapid" transit looks right now:





BRT station:
 

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This is fantastic news. Some kind of grade separated rapid transit through downtown Ottawa will really be welcome :)
 

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Hopefully, they go ahead with Alternative 4: LRT Tunnel (East & West Downtown LRT and North-South LRT). They could also expand that plan on the rest of the Transitway as demand and population will increase. Whatever the alternative chosen, the tunnel sounds good!
 

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This is fantastic news. Some kind of grade separated rapid transit through downtown Ottawa will really be welcome :)
Yeah, for sure. Transit downtown is a mess right now. During rush hour, it can take 20+ minutes to get from Mackenzie King across to Lebreton Flats, and sometimes half an hour or more to go down Bank Street from Wellington to the 417. It's terrible.
 
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