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First, a rendering of the new AXA tower (CB31) after renovation (the first tower which will go up):



Architects: Kohn Pedersen Fox - Estimated height: 220-230 meters

A file giving an overview of the project (in French unfortunately):
DEFENSE 2015

A video of the project: VIDEO DEFENSE 2015

Now, some renderings showing the positions and probable heights of the towers, all those are OFFICIAL renderings:

View from Paris - Arc de Triomphe:




View from Paris - Bois de Boulogne:




View from Levallois (north-west of Paris):



^^ You can see on the left the new AXA tower (CB31) after renovation. It's for sure much bigger than the 3 180m+ towers which are for now the highest in LD


View from Puteaux (South of La Défense):



The 3 biggest towers (250 to 400 meters) will be build around the Grande Arch!


Last view, toward Paris city center:




Just a reminder, the 2 towers which are under construction right now:

Granite (183m):







T1 (187m):







Here's another project for La Défense, a 200m tower by Jean Nouvel, considering its shape, it seems to be an appartment tower:


^^ It's the strange tower on the right







^^ It's apparently not inside LD perimeter, so it's probably not a part of LD 2015 project...

Now, we just have to wait for the renderings of all those towers! :)
 

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Really good overview! Thank you very much bnmaddict :banana: I think this is the beginning of a beautiful "rivalry" between Paris and London.

It would be great if something similar was happening in Copenhagen. Unfortunately that won't be in the near future..
 

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it worries me that some f the designs are just blue blurs. It can take up to half a decade to draw up potential designs.
 

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it worries me that some f the designs are just blue blurs. It can take up to half a decade to draw up potential designs.
... Or just a couple of years!

And then the towers will be U/C quite fast as those towers will be build inside a perimeter controled by a public institution, the EPAD (Public Body for the development of La Défense).

LD already has more than 3.000.000 sqm of office space built in 40 years. As all those projects combined represent only 850.000 sqm of office + residential space, it's nothing impossible to do. :)

Good to see some British forumers coming here to celebrate with us! :cheers:
 

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congratulations
can we say
Paris is back?
 

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interesting... but like always, some people there will oppose to the project of the 400m highrise. As long as they haven't started to build, I will be doubtful
I remember once a friend of mine from Houston, visiting me in Paris.
It was her 1st time in France and she was very surprised how small Paris downtown was compare to Houston. I think Paris needs more a dubai-like project (in terms of size and ambition) to come back in the race. In 2020, othe major cities will probably be already one step further.
At least it's better than nothing, but let's wait how parisians will react (most of them hate highrises, don't know why but still...)
 

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Not sure how comparing houston to paris comes into the equation in the particular case of the newly presented project @ la defense. I'm also not entirely sure of what your definition of 'downtown paris' is?
Also, how would you fit only just a tiny bit of what is being done in Dubai as we speak in the grand scheme of LD, considering the high residential output being constructed in Dubai Vs mainly office offering in LD?
An interrested mind enquiring.

As an end note, this is the first time some rather positive news are emerging from LD, for all it's worth (and i beleive it is worth shall the project be standing still and fowardingly active), let's support what is being put before our eyes. It can be done!
 

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well, the comparison with Houston is just because she was from there,so she compared to her home
It's easy to understand because Paris is the capital of a 60 M people country, with an international dimension, and people probably expect more from such a city (~ 10 M people)
I said "downtown" meaning "business area with skyscrapers". Maybe that's not a good definition. And about Dubai I should have been more precise: I didn't mean the same kind of project, but something as important in terms of size, replacing residential buildings by business ones
I'm not negative about LD, I like it much, but I wish they would plan for bigger and higher, extending LD area further as well.
As a French I know how people use to react here to this kind of projects: I expect people to try to minimize heights and braking as much as they can.
 

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that's ok! you didn't sound negative, i understand you exert your judgment upon the news with caution, anybody would, but the littlest we've seen so far is beyond what i was expecting, hence my general feel good attitude about it.
 

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well, the comparison with Houston is just because she was from there,so she compared to her home
It's easy to understand because Paris is the capital of a 60 M people country, with an international dimension, and people probably expect more from such a city (~ 10 M people)
Strange, I thought that most american tourists already knew that we europeans have a different approach to skyscrapers. Your friend from Houston should have realized that LD is already a huge CBD compared to others europeans cities, and that LD only represent less than 7% of Paris' office space. We don't need skyscrapers, the difference between Paris, and all the American cities is that we already have plenty of landmarks and beautiful churches, so we don't really need those spires! And we also have plenty of place to build office low-rises, so those skyscrapers are only a plus, a will to show that our economy is going up again, that our ambition is back, etc! :)

Concerning the fact some people would oppose the projects, I'm pretty sure it wont happen; as I previously said, all the projects are inside a perimeter controled by a public institution, no association will have anything to say about it. And more and more people are appreciating skyscrapers, nowdays, as their architecture is much more appealing to the eye (I'm sure that most Parisian will appreciate Granite, T1 and AXA, for exemple, most already find EDF or La Grande Arche, beautiful...)
 

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Paris without any doubt have the most diverse architecture, that exhibit evolution of architectural art, and so perfectly coexist...
 

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We don't need skyscrapers, the difference between Paris, and all the American cities is that we already have plenty of landmarks and beautiful churches, so we don't really need those spires!
well, I wouldn't say that. At least that's not my opinion. I wouldn't compare the landmarks, churches and monuments to CBD.
I don't see any incompatibility with having huge CBD and nice monuments
 
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