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sad news indeed.

Crowded House drummer found dead in Melbourne
9.18PM, Mon Mar 28 2005


Drummer Paul Hester from the New Zealand bands Split Enz and Crowded House has been found hanged in a park in Melbourne.

Hester, 46, failed to return home from walking his two dogs on Saturday night, according to a Sydney newspaper.

Ambulance officers said he had "attempted suicide", and died from strangulation. It is believed he was suffering from depression.

Crowded House singer Neil Finn said he was devastated by the death.

He told the paper: "I am devastated. I have lost one of my best mates."

Hester played with New Zealand group Split Enz before forming Crowded House with Neil Finn in 1985.

He later quit Crowded House to become a TV presenter in 1994.
 

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this is really really sad. He was always real funny when he did his "Max Sessions" on FOX, infact FOX re-ran his Crowded House session last nite.
Even though i dont know the circumstances of why he killed himself I think its very very gutless and selfish to hang yourself in a public park when you have 2 little girls and a family at home. Their easters from now on will be hell.
 

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I heard about it on the radio, apparantly he suffered from depression and so on. My Parents are fans of Split Enz and Crowded House, And I loved the bands too, It is very sad to actually hear he hung himself. I was listening to Triple J when news broke out about his death, The DJ played Four Seasons in one day and spoke a couple of words about how she felt about it.
 

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Him!! :eek: So young!! 46!!

I know his face but not his name.

Sounds a bit similar to Michael Hutchence's death, although his was more the self-induced, auto-erotic, recreational drug-greed gobbling type of hanging.

It's a bit rude to do it in a public place though so whoever found you would live with it for the rest of their lives. I guess when you are that depressed, you don't think about such things. Imagine if a child found the body with his eyes bulging out from a reddish-purple face.:eek:

I would feel sorry more for the person that found him dangling there. Go for it if you have to but do it in private and not as messy thanks...

Split Enz and Crowded House still have so many fans that listen to the music, eh?
 

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I agree it's almost ghoulish to hang yourself in a park, a place where children could potentially find the body. Seems like a bid for attention ot top yourself in a public place. Sad - reading here he had two children, the man would seem to have everything to live for. I remember him mostly from his many guest appearances on Martin/Molloy (the Austereo Radio Show) and he was pretty funny.
 

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Here's a good article from the SMH

SMH Article

Paul Hester's lost fight with depression highlights the dark nature of a distorted logic, writes Ruth Pollard.

To many, it is the ultimate benevolent act. A selfless desire to cease being a burden to friends and family, a constant liability, a bad parent to your children.

In the misguided logic that only works in a mind temporarily paralysed by mental illness, suicide is often viewed as the right thing to do.

"I do not know anybody ... who has done it out of a selfish or cowardly response - it is always done out of love," says Fay Jackson, a consumer advocate for people with mental illness.

Jackson, 44, has thought of suicide many times, and attempted it, as the long, depressive phases of bipolar disorder pushed her to the brink.

"My children were in their teenage years and I felt I was destroying their lives and that they deserved to have a mother who could laugh with them, take care of them ... I could not be any of those things.

"I felt to take my own life was a gift to them and they deserved their freedom. I wanted my daughters to have a role model, to show them that women could be strong ... and were not this pitiful wreck that they had been brought up with."
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After years of misdiagnosis she found a good psychiatrist, got on the correct dose of the right medication, started cognitive behavioural therapy and learnt to live again. Amazingly, her marriage and her family survived.

About 2500 people die from suicide each year in Australia, with men in the 24-44 age group most at risk. For every person who commits suicide, eight will attempt it.

At least 80 per cent of those who die from suicide have some form of mental illness. Those living with depression, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are most at risk.

More often than not, suicide is the end product of a long, slow descent into despair that occurs quietly, creepingly, over months. It rarely comes immediately after the spectacular trigger, the sudden, life-changing catalyst.

Suicide is still largely viewed as a sign of weakness, an over-the-top and irresponsible response to a common event such as a relationship breakdown or trouble at school.

"In reality there is usually a mental illness underlying it and suicide is often done in a mistakenly compassionate frame of mind," says Phil Mitchell, head of psychiatry at the University of NSW.

Life events, however, do lead to people becoming depressed and are undoubtedly related to suicide. Relationships ending, people dying, losing a job or experiencing poor health can be a precursor to depression.

People who attempt or commit suicide may have deep feelings of shame and humiliation, particularly if they have been exposed publicly or there has been a slur on their integrity. "Often the depression itself just worsens and worsens and the person loses their morale and willingness to fight the depression ... It is a gradual demoralisation where the depression distorts the logic," Mitchell says.

"People often suicide because they believe it is the caring thing to do for those around them - they believe they would be a better mother if the child didn't have to grow up with them, or believing that their partner will be a happier person without them, even though the opposite is true."

It is important to remember that people are not themselves when they are trapped in these thought processes - their thinking has been badly distorted by their illness, he says.

Paul Morgan, the deputy director of the mental health charity SANE Australia, says unlike people who do not have a mental illness, those who do cannot move on from bleak, destructive thoughts or put them in perspective.

"Someone with depression will just chew it over and over until it wears a hole in them - it becomes a source of agony and they think, 'All this would cease if I could go to sleep and not wake up.' It becomes almost a compulsive thought."

He says access to treatment is a big problem. "While the Government does take suicide prevention seriously, they are still not completely grasping the fact that the majority of suicides are by people with mental illness. The single most important thing they could do to reduce the suicide rate is to improve mainstream treatment of mental illness."

People with depression are six times more likely to commit suicide than the general population, those with bipolar disorder 15 times more likely and people with schizophrenia 10 times more likely.

"The majority of people who commit suicide have a mental health problem and they are not getting the treatment that they need," Morgan says.

The combination of medication and psychological treatments such as cognitive behavioural therapy have proved the most effective, he says.

While more women than men attempt suicide, men die at a rate four times higher than women, mainly because they use more lethal methods, such as firearms. The most common method, however, is hanging, which accounts for almost half of suicides.

Suicide prevention - access to treatment and services, talking through problems, building people's resilience, restricting access to the methods used in suicides - presents unique challenges when dealing with men, says Michael Dudley, the chairman of Suicide Prevention Australia.

"With men there is a need to take self-destructive behaviour seriously, to promptly treat suicide attempts seriously and to try to ... help men with problem-solving approaches to life crises. We need to improve self-esteem and reduce alienation amongst men."

But suicide rates will never decline until governments increase funding to mental health services, Dudley says.

"Mental illness accounts for 27 per cent of all disability, and yet we spend 7 per cent of our public health budget on mental health.

"It is absolutely woeful ... we have a major problem with beds, chronic understaffing and increasingly complex presentations of people with drug and alcohol problems."

Likening the problems to those plaguing the state's rail system, Dudley says the mental health crisis is a result of "years and years of neglect".

In a society as prosperous as Australia the high rates of mental illness are difficult to fathom, says Ian Hickie, clinical adviser to beyondblue, the national depression initiative.

"Much of it relates to the fact that we are not treating those at very high risk - they are the people with overt mental illness, who are socially isolated and involved in substance abuse," he says, describing the combination as "toxic".

Suicide is made easier by substance abuse, yet there are so few facilities or services available to help those with both a mental illness and a drug and alcohol problem.

"A man ... might seem fine on Thursday when he is sober, but ... for that same man who finds himself on his own, drinking on Saturday night, the likelihood that he will act increases."

At a population level the more people you treat, the further levels of suicide will fall, Hickie says.

For Fay Jackson, a turning point came when her husband asked her to live, rather than die, for her two daughters. She is one of the lucky ones. "We have to cope with the stigma that society puts on us, from doctors, teachers, politicians and others, but the stigma that is most challenging and most likely to result in us taking our our own lives is the stigma against ourselves."

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My mum went through severe depression and she always spoke of not wanting to wake up again. She could only see the hurt she was causing to us, seeing my relationship with my then girlfriend break down because of it, the threat of me being evicted because I had to take so much time off work and couldn't pay the bills, me having to put off further uni that I had planned to do, me drinking myself stupid (never alone or in the house, though, that's going too far down the slippery slope) because that's the only way, or perhaps the easiest way, I found I could get the issue off my mind.

I'd do, and go through these things again 100 times over to make sure my mum got through another severe bout of depression and as much as you tried to show her you were getting on with your life just fine, your eyes don't lie, and all mothers are experts at seeing through them anyway.

I just don't think we, as non mental illness suffering people, can flippantly say, "oh, how selfish of them", when they're simply nobly thinking "if you love someone, set them free". I don't agree with it, but I don't walk in their shoes, either.
 

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I was reading an article about The US Radio personality Howard Stern who is a dickhead and an even bigger one for making this remark, Claimed that Paul Hester was nothing but a crap drummer, and made fun of his hanging, why the hell would you say stuff about someone who has died, unless you had some fued with the person, theres no need to make fun of someone who has died.
 

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^Its called plain stupidity.

If he's a shock jock, then he's seriously running out of material and has no concept of mental illness whatsoever, not even his own.

RIP.
 
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