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doesnt look good for the P0pe?

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II's (search) condition was critical but stable the Vatican said Friday, and he was said to be conscious. The statement seemed to end speculation that the pontiff was comatose, as had been reported earlier by Italian media.

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls (search) tearily said that the pope had requested to remain in his apartment after being "informed of the gravity of his situation," and that the request was being honored.

He also said that the pope had taken part in a morning mass, and added that he was remarkably calm. Additionally, John Paul asked aides to read him the biblical passage describing the final stage of the Way of the Cross, the path that Christ took to his crucifixion, Navarro-Valls said.

He said the pope followed attentively and made the sign of the cross.

"This is surely an image I have never seen in these 26 years," Navarro-Valls said. Choking up, he walked out of the room.

The latest downturn in the pontiff's health developed after he contracted a very high fever brought on by a urinary tract infection on Thursday. He received the Roman Catholic sacrament for the gravely ill and the dying once known as "Last Rites."
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Pope John Paul II (1920- ) is said to be the most recognized person in the world. He is the most traveled Pope in the 2,000 year history of the Church and speaks eight languages. Born Karol Joseph Wojtyla (pronounced Voy-tee-wah) in Wadowice, Poland on May 18, 1920 to an administrative officer in the Polish army and a former schoolteacher. In 1978, at the age of 58 the College of Cardinals elected him to lead the Roman Catholic Church. He was the first non-italian chosen as Pope in 456 years and the youngest in this century. At age 61 he suffered serious wounds during an assassination attempt.
 

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He was a very good pope changed alot. To bad some of his veiws are now a bit backward.
 

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most people do pray for their loved ones to survive, so really for those thousands of people who died, people have prayed for them... so why not pray for the pope who has had a massive impact on the people who belive in him? about 2000 people were praying for a student at my school who had been in a coma after getting hit by a train... she died soon after... ='(
 

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I'm proud of his achievements of his pope and I admire him for that. He has stood up very well to the challenges facing the church and it's followers today and has taken a good stand on social issues within today's society - contraception, abortion and so on. He has maintained and enforced church doctrine.

The pope should be noted as well for his diplomatic character particularly in fighting against communism on a global scale and an influential figure in bringing democracy to native Poland and Eastern Europe, and his rejection of the war in Iraq.

He will truely be remembered as one of the great figures of our time. He has touched the world in a way that has never been seen.
 

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He passed away this morning at 5:37am EST (9:37pm in Rome). :(

From BBC News

Pope John Paul II dies in Vatican

Pope John Paul II has died at the age of 84, after becoming one of the longest-serving pontiffs in history.

The Pope died at 2137 local time (1937 GMT) on Saturday following a series of worsening health problems including heart failure.

Prayers are being said in St Peter's Square, where many thousands of people are gathered to pay tribute.

Polish-born Karol Wojtyla became Pope in 1978, taking a conservative stand on issues like abortion and contraception.

He was the most widely travelled pontiff and visited more than 120 countries during his 26-year papacy.

'Serene'

Pope John Paul II died after suffering from heart and kidney problems and unstable blood pressure.

Our Holy Father John Paul has returned to the house of the Father Archbishop Leonardo Sandri
Senior Vatican official

"The Holy Father died this evening at 2137 in his private apartment," a brief Vatican statement said.

Procedures to be carried out in the event of the death of the Pope has been set in motion, it added.

His death was immediately announced to the crowds gathered on St Peter's Square, and was met with long applause, an Italian sign of respect.

Bells tolled across the city of Rome and many people wept openly.

"Our Holy Father John Paul has returned to the house of the Father," senior Vatican official Archbishop Leonardo Sandri said.

In the Pope's native Poland, people fell to their knees and wept as the news reached them.

His condition deteriorated suddenly on Thursday night with a high fever caused by an infection of the urinary tract.

The infection brought on "septic shock and a cardio-circulatory collapse", the Vatican said in a statement.

The Pope then received the Saint Viaticum, a Catholic rite for the sick and dying.

The Vatican had announced on Friday that though he was gravely ill he had been conscious, lucid and serene.

Millions of Catholics across the world gathered in churches and in the open air to pray for the Pope.

The pontiff had been suffering from breathing troubles, exacerbated by the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he had been suffering for nearly a decade.

He appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope had delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

He tried again to speak to the faithful a few days later - a sign of his extraordinarily strong will, correspondents say.

John Paul's papacy nearly ended in 1981 when he was shot and seriously wounded as he toured St Peter's Square in Rome.

After a long period of recovery he visited and forgave the would-be assassin.

I... know that it would be equally ridiculous to believe that it was the Pope who brought down communism with his own hands

John Paul's reign saw radical changes in the world including the collapse of communism and the spread of Aids.

Although plagued by ill health throughout the latter part of his papacy he maintained his international schedule and in 2000 made a poignant pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

He also made a final, nostalgic return to his homeland in 2002.

Born Karol Wojtyla in 1920 near Krakow, Poland, John Paul was an excellent sportsman in his youth.
 

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Pope John Paul II dies in Vatican

Pope John Paul II, one of the longest serving pontiffs in history, has died at the age of 84.

He died on Saturday evening following a series of worsening health problems including heart failure.

The Polish-born Karol Wojtyla became Pope in 1978, taking a conservative stand on issues such as abortion, contraception and women's rights.

He was the most widely travelled pontiff and visited more than 120 countries during his 26-year papacy.



The Pope was renowned for his extraordinary willpower

'Serene'

Pope John Paul II died at 2137 local time (1937 GMT) after suffering from heart and kidney problems and unstable blood pressure.

His condition deteriorated suddenly on Thursday night with a high fever caused by an infection of the urinary tract.

The infection brought on "septic shock and a cardio-circulatory collapse", the Vatican said in a statement.

The Pope then received the Saint Viaticum, a Catholic rite for the sick and dying.

The Vatican had announced on Friday that though he was gravely ill he had been conscious, lucid and serene.

Millions of Catholics across the world gathered in churches and in the open air to pray for the Pope.

The pontiff had been suffering from breathing troubles, exacerbated by the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he had been suffering for nearly a decade.

He appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope had delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

He tried again to speak to the faithful a few days later - a sign of his extraordinarily strong will, correspondents say.

Fall of communism

John Paul's papacy nearly ended in 1981 when he was shot and seriously wounded as he toured St Peter's Square in Rome.

After a long period of recovery he visited and forgave the would-be assassin.

John Paul's reign saw radical changes in the world including the collapse of communism and the spread of Aids.

Although plagued by ill health throughout the latter part of his papacy he maintained his international schedule and in 2000 made a poignant pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

He also made a final, nostalgic return to his homeland in 2002.

Born Karol Wojtyla in 1920 near Krakow, Poland, John Paul was an excellent sportsman in his youth.
 

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what a person.amazing achievements.
rest in peace.
 

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His body now lies in state in the Sistine Chapel being aired live to a global audience. Dignitaries are currently filing through.

I'm very disappointed that my church didn't do anything special to mark his death during Sunday Mass today. No hymms, decorations, prayers or anything. Only a short prayer was offered during the prayers of intersession. It was just an ordinary mass as per usual. The turnout to mass was good though with more people than usual turning up to remember him.

In the city, St Marys Cathedral was packed to the rafters as well. It was standing room only during mass today!!!!
 

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They have just finished the requiem mass for the pope at St Marys Cathedral here in Sydney. I watched parts of it and it was very moving. The cathedral was packed to capacity with many standing for the service.

Every prominent figure was there. The Prime Minister and opposition leader was there, along with leaders from the NSW Government, NSW Governor, Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore, heads of the judicary, police and military. Also students from Sydney Catholic schools were there. Every Priest and bishop from the Archidosee was in attendance along with Australia's two other cardinals - Edward Cassidy and Edward Clancy. Clancy delivered the homily paying tribute to the pope and reflected on his experience of meeting with the pope.
 
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