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It would, I agree.. Has a certain Rotterdamn-look to it.. Which I think would suit Liverpool's Waterfront.
 

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Anybody any info on whats being built on Princes Dock in the way of bars, restaurants ect.
 

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I had a quick walk round the dock yesterday. It seems to have a lot more life about it, more people, more traffic etc than just six months ago. I saw a mini bus but couldn't quite figure out what route it was, but it's a good sign of progress if there is a bus link. But I don't like all the red "don't do this, don't do that - it is prohibited" style signs. They especially don't seem to allow fishing, not sure why.

Can anyone remember who it was who said we wouldn't even notice the car park once it was built? Was it Woody? Maybe more than one said that. Anyway, I think he / they are right, it does seem to blend in, in my opinion.







 

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After just reading Sloynes comments on the Cruise Terminal thread, regarding the expected amount of visitors from the cruise ships, it seems imperative that Peel get there act together and build some type of 24hr. entertainment facility(pubs bars clubs restaurants casino ect) on Princes dock. Not all of the visitors will want to go trooping around the city, some may not have enough time(some ships may only be docked for a few hours), some may not be fit enough(a lot of older people cruise nowdays), but i think a lot would like to get off the ship, if only for a couple of hours. The entertainment center could have a Liverpool theme, ie Beatles club, LFC shop, Titanic bar(no ice served), and Im sure it would be a money-spinner for Peel and the city in general.
 

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begsy said:
it seems imperative that Peel get there act together and build some type of 24hr.
The average cruise ship visit is between 8 and 12 hours in Caribbean ports. There are very few ports in that part of the world that cater for longers stays. The exceptions are San Juan,PR, Aruba and Curacao and these ports reap the benefits, late shopping, casino, dockside festivities and cultural presentations. Every ship has duty-free shops and a casino but, they are closed while in port so, if Liverpool were to provide a dockside casino and/or provide transportation to a nearby facility it would syphon off some of the money gambled aboard ship. The more facilities offered to cruise passengers, the longer the ships will stay in port. There is no point in having a cruise ship alongside from 8:00AM to 12:Midnight if everything ashore, except pubs, is closed at 6:00PM.

European Mediteranean cities are, of course, open later. Barcelona for example, will usually offer free bus rides into the cities numerous squares and, the siesta being over, the city is a shoppers mecca late into the evening. With the right attitude and LEADERSHIP Liverpool could become a magnate for cruise ships and there passengers.
 

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Couldn't agree more Begsy. I think Martin or someone suggested mooring old barges alongside the dock walls and converting them into trendy bars/pubs as a way of increasing entertainment, when I brought the issue up on the last thread. Quite original and certainly a selling point if it could be pulled off well - I believe this sort of idea is used in Amsterdam quite a lot.

Also I was told that there were provisional cafe/restaurant/bar schemes in place, although I haven't heard anything about these as of yet.

Is that an algal bloom on the dock? Not a good indicator of water quality if it is. I'd say they should instigate some schemes to increase biodiversity in Princes Dock as it seems so sterile when I visit. The half tide dock seems to fair much better (Dave's heron pic). There's an immense amount of wildlife in the Coburg/Brunswick docks; I used to love hanging over the side of the pontoons and watching the eels/crabs/shellfish lurking in the colourful seaweeds in summer.
 

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Poli, I think the mini bus you may have seen is indeed a service for Princes Dock the S3 which loops around town, Queens Square. The service is run with low emission hybrid engines, which explains the noise from them, I think Arriva have about half a dozen of them.

Yapachoo, Princes Dock is oxygenated there are about 5 or 6 outlets around the dock basin. Up until about 4 weeks ago the water was very clear you could easily see the bottom, so this algae is only recent, I don't know what MDHC will do about it.
 

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Good pics Poli, I think the car park will help when the dock is bulked up by the Malmasion and probably another office building next to it.

Interesting to see Freds Weather map has turned up in the dock.
 

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Great pics Liverpolitan :cheers:

I have noticed all he restriction signs, there is one about the area not being public access. You can go up the stone turret on the corner of the dock near the City lofts building for different picture angle.

Actually looks like you did in your second pic. :)
 

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Nice pics yuppie, I haven't seen that view before, I am too lazy to walk that far, but for first time I can see what back of Beetham looks like. While I agree with others who have said it's not great, and shouldn't be repeated in future buildings, it's not that bad. I think a lot will depend upon how the surface material weathers, it looks okay now, but hopefully it won't stain unevenly. It must look good for people in cars - in a few years, in the evening when all the lights in the flats are on, it will look great.
 

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yuppie, liverpolitan, great pics. The car park isnt as bad as I'd anticipated, but I dont like the way it blocks out a fragment of the Liver Building from some angles.
 

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I drove past the Malmaison site today. A Portaloo has appeared (the first sign of approaching construction activity) and signs advertising the contractor Amec have been fixed to the fencing.

Official start date is July 4th. but I can see them being on site before then. Not bad to have three major developments on the go at once at Princes.
 

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liverpolitan said:
ICan anyone remember who it was who said we wouldn't even notice the car park once it was built? Was it Woody? Maybe more than one said that. Anyway, I think he / they are right, it does seem to blend in, in my opinion.

Yes it was me, :) I often think that to be to critical of developments based upon renders is a mistake, also you need to look at the bigger picture. How will a particular development "sit " with adjacent structures. I am sure that this much maligned MSCP will blend in with its location.

Great pics, liverpolitan
 
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