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Good call. I think this will eliminate some of the current congestion between Pukerua Bay and Paekakariki Hill Rd in the evenings and Mackays crossing to Paekakariki in the mornings.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-pos...ti-observer/7305779/Hill-Rd-junction-in-focus

The New Zealand Transport Agency is preparing plans that will see the Paekakariki Hill Rd become left turn only.

The change is one of a number being examined after Wellington highways manager Rod James spoke to the town's community board this month.

Mr James told the Kapiti Observer that the agency will be looking to improve safety at the intersection at Paekakariki "while still enabling efficient traffic flow".

"We're currently developing options to share with the community board at their next meeting. One of these will look at how we might restrict turning movements into and out of Hill Road."

Mr James said the speed limit in the area, currently 70kmh, will also be looked at.

Meanwhile community board chair Janet Holborow said Mr James' presentation drew a full house at St Peter's Hall.

The issue has been an urgent one for years, she said, and has only got worse as traffic levels have increased.

Ms Holborow said Transmission Gully completion is still many years off - and it still may not resolve the problem as many people might still choose to use the hill road.

Improvements at the intersection, were about more than just safety, she said.

"When you're sitting trying to come out of Paekakariki and you're waiting 12 minutes or more to turn right to go to town. That's just not ok. So it's not just a matter of safety for us, it's a matter of connectivity. We do have people who hesitate when they're going to take their cars out of the village; and we have people whose families hesitate to visit them - they've got to get in and out of the village."

She said if the turning restriction was put in place, it would not be a return to the previously- rejected full seagull intersection.
 

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My view of a better solution would be to

a) Force all traffic comming off Paekakariki Hill Rd into Paekakariki by creating a bridge or underpass over/under SH1 and the railway line.
b) Force all traffic left onto SH1 as proposed. But putting a traffic circle where the vacant garage is currently.

There is just no room here for a proper interchange and maybe a traffic circle is the only way to go.
 

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Haywards Hill (SH58) should be a 'major connection'

Haywards Hill Rd, which connects Kapiti and the Hutt Valley, is in line for a $30 million safety upgrade, aimed at reducing deaths and serious injuries.

The announcement last Thursday was welcomed, but some have said it was not sufficient.

Crashes since October last year have left two dead and two seriously injured.

Planned measures include straightening tight bends, permanently lowering speed limits, installing wire rope barriers and building a new roundabout at Moonshine Rd.

Upper Hutt's regional councillor Paul Swain said any improvements to State Highway 58 were welcome, but what was proposed was "short-sighted."

Swain wants a major upgrade to SH58, enlarging it to four lanes, rather than a new road between Petone and Grenada.

"It should be the major connection between State Highway 2 and State Highway 1," he said.

However, he said, "any improvement that can be made to that highway, which is a real death trap at the moment, is welcome".

Porirua mayor Nick Leggett said his council's focus was on safety for both residents and drivers on SH58.

"Anything that enhances it, we are supportive of," he said.

He had initially supported enlarging the Haywards route to four lanes, but had changed his mind.

"Given that Petone-to-Grenada has the best cost-benefit ratio of any road in the country, that road has got to do more towards assisting connections between Tawa, Porirua and the Hutt Valley, and easing congestion in the Hutt Valley," he said.

"Porirua to Grenada is the way to go."

A $2.5m upgrade will happen immediately and the agency will consult the public on the $30m package of improvements in coming months.

The first stage of the work involves straightening the road, installing 700 metres of wire rope barrier to prevent head-on collisions and improving drainage to increase the road's integrity.

Transport agency Wellington highways manager Rod James, said it was a difficult route with tight curves and roadside hazards, such as steep drop-offs, nearby streams and heavy tree growth.

"Realistically, it will always be a challenging drive, but this doesn't mean we should accept death and injury are inevitable.

"We recognise that people will make mistakes and the road needs to be more forgiving, so driver error doesn't lead to tragic consequences."

Haywards Hill road has a temporary 50kmh speed limit in force between Harris and Mt Cecil roads, and the transport agency wants to move quickly to make it permanent.

- Kapiti Observer
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-pos...92/Haywards-Hill-should-be-a-major-connection
 

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As far general roading news goes, this is pretty much out there. A massive inconvenience for a large amount of people. But also a good contract to pick up as well.

Replacement for slumped Upper Hutt bridge could take six months


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Stranded residents could wait up to six months before a replacement bridge is built to their Upper Hutt community.

The Bridge Rd bridge, off Akatarawa Rd, slumped on Thursday as heavy rain fell in the headwaters of the Akatarawa River.

The community of about 60 homes was isolated with only a 20-minute long walking track linking them to the outside world.

Upper Hutt City Council asset management director Lachlan Wallach said the council hoped to turn the walking track to Totara Park into four-wheel-drive access within "days" but there was no guarantee yet this could be done.

The bridge would likely need to be replaced rather than repaired.

"To put a new bridge in could be six months," Wallach said.


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photo credit:BLAKE CRAYTON-BROWN/FAIRFAX NZ

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As far general roading news goes, this is pretty much out there. A massive inconvenience for a large amount of people. But also a good contract to pick up as well.
Probably one of the oldest remaining road bridge in the Wellington region,

Other candidates ( Airlie Rd, Rangoon Street, and 3 on the Akatarawa hill Road) have all been replaced in the last 5-10 years,

Hopefully the replacement will be able to do it in one span, without the need for a central pillar..

It sounds like they will remove the vegetation and pave the paper road that runs from Totara park to the other end of Bridge Rd, while they work on replacing this one....
 

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Bit of a pity that a piece of engineering history has gone. Unique to have structures like this still in a metropolitan area. But then the enclave that this bridge services sounds like a cool outta the way neighbourhood.

Im just wondering what they would do in case of emergency? What if someone was having a heart attack? Theres no way Wellington Free could get across.
 

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Im just wondering what they would do in case of emergency? What if someone was having a heart attack? Theres no way Wellington Free could get across.
Local SAR took their 8 wheel "Gator" along the walking track today to ensure there was some emergency access if needed,

In the next few days the Council is expected to start widening it to form a drivable road, est 2-3 weeks to complete.
 

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Went for a walk that took me to Bridge Rd today. Crews were busy installing a barrier along a length of the road.
They will chip seal it and install traffic lights eventually as it is one way only (currently residents are only able to drive through in guided convoys at set times- 7, 12 and 5.30 I think the residents I was talking to said).

If you've walked along that stretch of river before it is pretty impressive how quickly they've managed to put a road through.

Took a few photos on the way through but it seems I require a post history to add links in :(
 

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^^

Does anyone know when the Let's Get Wellington Moving plan is actually going to be released?

I know it got put off late last year, but I'm sure at the time it was implied that it was going to be released very early in the year (i.e. January), it's now March and that article says it will be released in the next few months...

Also it's not as though whatever is released in the plan will be very developed; all that will be announced is their transport intentions - planning, design, and funding will all need to happen afterwards and judging by how long it's taken to decide what to do, it will probably take decades before they actually start building anything.
 

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Does anyone know when the Let's Get Wellington Moving plan is actually going to be released?
No, and it is seriously pi$$ing off a lot of people.....

It is likely sitting on the Minister's Desk...waiting until he can find a way to fund it.. (or cut it back to fit what funding he has)

What we do know is that it has a price tag of $4 billion and quite likely involves light rail... beyond that your guess is as good as mine,

This is the most public info we have from the October 5 NZTA meeting

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/About-us-2/docs/board-meeting-minutes-2018/minutes-20181005.pdf

Resolution 8 : The NZ Transport Agency Board:

a) Endorsed the Let’s Get Wellington Moving (LGWM) Recommended Programme of Investment (RPI) as a programme business case.

b) Noted ‘endorsement’ indicates a commitment to develop the LGWM RPI to a stage where it can be implemented, but does not commit the NZ Transport Agency to fund that implementation, in whole or in part.

c) Noted the LGWM RPI has an estimated capital cost (P50) of $4 billion and an indicative Benefit Cost Ratio (BCR) in the range 0.6 – 1.7.

d) Notes the need for significant further work on the feasibility of funding and financing arrangement for LGWM, in conjunction with similar and coincident requirements for the Auckland Rail Project.

e) Agrees there is a need to understand the entire commitment required for LGWM before embarking on the next stage, which includes detailed business case preparation, and implementation of early improvements.
 

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$4 billion sounds like duplication of both tunnels, a trench under Te Aro, a tunnel under the basin, and light rail to the airport - i.e. the full wish list.

It also sounds like more money than what's ever been spent on Wellington so we'll be lucky to actually get it.
 

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$4 billion sounds like duplication of both tunnels, a trench under Te Aro, a tunnel under the basin, and light rail to the airport - i.e. the full wish list.

It also sounds like more money than what's ever been spent on Wellington so we'll be lucky to actually get it.
Of course they are going to ask for the full Monty, they are a government Department :)

If you had $4 billion it would probably be cheaper/easier to deep tunnel all the way under Tearo flat..

$1.5 Billion at Waterview got two 2.4 km3 lane tunnels,

Its only about 500 metres more to go all the way from Kilbirnie Park to the Southern portal of the Terrace Tunnel.... so call it $2 billion,

Then you still have $2 billion rattling round for light rail.. :).

.- It will never happen of course...
 

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Gees just get yourself a regional fuel tax

Of course they are going to ask for the full Monty, they are a government Department :)

If you had $4 billion it would probably be cheaper/easier to deep tunnel all the way under Tearo flat..

$1.5 Billion at Waterview got two 2.4 km3 lane tunnels,

Its only about 500 metres more to go all the way from Kilbirnie Park to the Southern portal of the Terrace Tunnel.... so call it $2 billion,

Then you still have $2 billion rattling round for light rail.. :).

.- It will never happen of course...
problem solved.
 

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Petone to Grenada: kicked into the long grass

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/111939230/plans-for-petonegrenada-highway-north-of-wellington-pushed-back-a-decade

Not exactly surprising given the Government's transport agenda and the fact that the Let's Get Wellington Moving plan will probably subsume all transport expenditure for Wellington for the next decade (or five if some reports are to be believed).

I think the road is probably needed, but as it stands it seems a very poor piece of planning - the cost is obviously vastly underestimated and it's also particularly vulnerable to natural disasters.
 

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Agreed. You can see the massive cuttings it would make on the hillside and think that it might as well be SH1 in Kaikoura when the big one hits.
 

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I think they definitely need to redesign it, but it's probably impossible to surmount that Petone hill in any way that isn't a massive vulnerability without a tunnel (and at least a billion dollars). So maybe they need to look at doing something more drastic with the Haywards route.

This project might have been kicked into the long grass, but we're still waiting to hear about the Melling Interchange - Huttites won't be happy if this is canned as well.
 
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