[KJBrissy]

Interesting to know what your preference is.

 

[geeohgeegeeoh]

The St Lucia choice is silly. Insufficient benefit. If you had to pick one, the one closest to the ferry drop makes most sense for overall transport integration.

The A choice alignment for westend-toowong suits me personally best because I just want to be able to walk to the regatta and get plastered. I understand other people may have other less selfish reasoning like transport integration, but I'm for beer.

 

[verbatim9]

I reckon go for the Toowong one only. Scrap the St Lucia crossing and put that money towards a new mass transit crossing. City to Indooroopilly via West end, UQ and St Lucia

 

[KJBrissy]

^^We've already pretty much got that, and the piddly amount you'd save not building a bridge won't make any difference in whether a full metro get's constructed or not.


@geeohgeegeeoh, whjere would you located a ped/cycle bridge between West End and St. Lucia?

 

[KJBrissy]

By the way, I feel the bridge at the ferry terminal location is too close to the Toowong Bridge and it's better to spread it out a little.

 

[verbatim9]

I doubt that the St Lucia Bridge will make a dent in reducing traffic. It seems like a bizarre crossing. Do people really travel from St Lucia to that part of West end for any particular reason. Its primary residential. Any onward trips would require significant walking, cycling or catching Public Transport. I can understand the Toowong connection because of the many services in Toowong and Public transport connections.

 

[geeohgeegeeoh]

@geeohgeegeeoh, whjere would you located a ped/cycle bridge between West End and St. Lucia?

I don't know. The green bridge to Dutton Park made it hard to figure what's the benefit. If you're on foot the marginal benefits over the ferry are a huge socialised cost, when the toowong bridge gains multiple outcomes. I think both are silly where one is justified.

I want the west end ferry stop council committed to before the last flood.

 

[asdfg]

I'm also not convinced by the West End to St. Lucia bridge (I live in West End).

A crossing to Toowong sounds good though.

 

[Aussie Bhoy]

West End to St Lucia would be mostly about UQ. I know there is the Eleanor Schonell bridge already, but this would serve West End much better, and cut out having to walk or ride up Highgate Hill. Also St Lucia, with all of its students living in apartments would be a fairly short stroll or ride to the shops and bars on Boundary St, and Southbank too. I think it's a great location for a bridge and well worth doing.

 

[KJBrissy]

Agree, is 1km gaps between crossing points of a major ped/cycle barrier that unnecessary?

If this was a freeway with major attractors (as UQ, Toowong etc are) on each side, I would be looking at 1km minimum, likely much higher!

 

[GMAC]

I think Boundary St to UQ is a great option, as far as connectivity goes, it really just depends how they integrate the boundary side into the streetscape, that could be a worry. I still think the Toowong bridge should go from Rogers St to Sylvan Road roughly.

 

[KJBrissy]

^^Rogers to Sylvan has no available space. The beauty with further south is that the most constrained side of the river (the west) has a hill to land on, reducing land take.

Alternatively, you could "land" near "Land" Street This could work with an off-road, bi-directional lane on the north and west side of Land Street and North side of Sylvan Road crossing to a bike only path on the southern side of Milton Rd to then connect into the Western Freeway bikeway.

Access to Toowong central can occur via the underpass and the existing Bicentennial bikeway.




I personally still prefer the middle of the 3 BCC options.

 

[Flyash]

West End to St Lucia would be mostly about UQ. I know there is the Eleanor Schonell bridge already, but this would serve West End much better, and cut out having to walk or ride up Highgate Hill. Also St Lucia, with all of its students living in apartments would be a fairly short stroll or ride to the shops and bars on Boundary St, and Southbank too. I think it's a great location for a bridge and well worth doing.

Absolutely. The options for a meal out if you live in an apartment is a stroll across the green bridge or an e-scooter or e-bike. The main advantage is that you skip Coronation Drive in my opinion. It is a bottle neck point the T intersection at Toowong and Coro Drive to St Lucia.

 

[verbatim9]

I just completed the survey for the Toowong and St Lucia crossings, but emailed the Project team with my concerns.

To the Project Team,

I have just completed the Green Bridge surveys for both Toowong and the St Lucia crossings. While I totally agree there is a need for the Toowong to West End Bridge for many reasons, I disagree with the St Lucia to West End bridge. This bridge should be scrapped and a combined mass transit and pedestrian bridge put in place instead. Council should work with UQ, State and Federal Governments to provide options for a Mass Transit Corridor from Kenmore/Indooroopilly to the City via St Lucia, UQ, West End and South Brisbane. UQ have flagged and identified this as the preferred option going forward. The St Lucia to West end Active Transport bridge is a waste of Council’s funds and time. Better efforts are best to be focussed on a new Mass Transit corridor that would provide far reaching benefits for the broader community. New Active Transport corridors can also be included with a new Mass Transit Corridor.

 

[KJBrissy]

What do you mean by mass transit?

 

[geeohgeegeeoh]

I just completed the survey for the Toowong and St Lucia crossings, but emailed the Project team with my concerns.

Tell me which street in West end you want to be a mass transit corridor. Here's a hint: We've just succeeded in getting speed limits and lights on Montague Rd, and Hardgrave Rd ends in a traffic light set at a school and dumps people into Vulture or Jane, which is a huge bottleneck...

 

[BrizzyChris]

By the way, I feel the bridge at the ferry terminal location is too close to the Toowong Bridge and it's better to spread it out a little.

Don't quite agree. While the Toowong-West End bridge is far more beneficial, the West End-St Lucia bridge also makes a lot of sense. And if you are going to build it, Option A near the ferry terminal is the only genuinely decent option, the other two variants have horrible landings and don't connect as well to PT and cycle/walking routes. And at the end of the day, I'd rather see $50-80m spent on this additional bridge than alternatively spent on a road project.

 

[KJBrissy]

Where are these people crossing a bridge to go to public transport coming to or from? If it's to the city or beyond from the south side of the river, then there are already plenty of options. If it's to places from West End, then you can either use the Toowong bridge of the City Cat.

 

[KJBrissy]

In addition, the boundary street option has PT at similar travel lengths as the Kurilpa Bridge at each end.

The Toowong bridge is about PT and services, where as this is primarily about land use and active transport.

 

[EnolaGray]

Don't quite agree. While the Toowong-West End bridge is far more beneficial, the West End-St Lucia bridge also makes a lot of sense. And if you are going to build it, Option A near the ferry terminal is the only genuinely decent option, the other two variants have horrible landings and don't connect as well to PT and cycle/walking routes. And at the end of the day, I'd rather see $50-80m spent on this additional bridge than alternatively spent on a road project.

Tend to agree about aligning it with existing infrastructure, bike path already links in at that location and the bus network already services the ferry stop as well. Assessment on the website also had that location as receiving the highest number of users compared to the other locations.