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PROJECT: Melbourne Convention Centre
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/18/1082226636118.html
New convention centre, bridge for city's west
By Royce Millar
City Reporter
April 19, 2004
A new footbridge over the Yarra linking Southbank and Docklands will be part of a $330 million convention precinct the State Government is expected to announce in its April statement tomorrow.
The precinct's centrepiece will be a 5000-seat convention centre, or plenary hall, earmarked for the former Mazda site next to the Exhibition Centre, widely known as Jeff's Shed.
Business groups have lobbied for years for a new convention venue, arguing that Melbourne's existing 1500-seat centre is hopelessly outdated.
The State Government has been tight-lipped about details of the April statement and has refused to confirm whether the convention centre project would be included.
Government sources said they expected the project to be a public-private partnership, with a private group building the centre and leasing it to the government.
The managers of the existing exhibition centre - a government-appointed trust - are likely to run the new centre.
But the project will hinge on support from the Melbourne City Council, which will be under intense pressure tomorrow to contribute $43 million, including about $15 million for the bridge.
Yesterday's Government announcement that it would return control of Docklands to the council was clearly timed to encourage the council to support the convention centre.
Yesterday a town hall source said the council had demanded it get Docklands back in return for a contribution to the convention centre.
A private town hall briefing today will be the first formal council discussion on the project. A special council meeting to vote on the contribution has been hastily called for tomorrow to coincide with the April statement.
Lord Mayor John So strongly supports the new centre. He will have the numbers to approve a council contribution.
But the council is split, with as many as four of the nine councillors possibly opposed to council involvement.
Finance committee chairman and former Labor Party member Kevin Chamberlin said yesterday the council administration had confirmed that a large contribution would result in service cuts, a rate rise, or both.
If the convention centre was to be a public-private partnership the council should not contribute, he said.
The Committee for Melbourne called on the council to back the project.
"People come to these conventions with millions of disposable dollars and this has a remarkable knock-on effect for business in the city," executive director Janine Kirk said.
State MPs and councillors have questioned whether Melbourne needs a new centre, when existing venues such as the Docklands football stadium can seat 5000.
But the chief executive of the existing Melbourne Exhibition and Convention Centre, Leigh Harry, said that to compete for international conventions, Melbourne needed a centre with a large plenary hall, a large exhibition space, and plenty of smaller meeting rooms.
He said no existing Melbourne venue provided all three.
Mr Harry said among world cities Melbourne had slipped from fourth to 25th in the number of international conventions hosted.
He said that Melbourne's lack of convention capacity made it ineligible for 320 major international conventions.
New convention centre, bridge for city's west
By Royce Millar
City Reporter
April 19, 2004
A new footbridge over the Yarra linking Southbank and Docklands will be part of a $330 million convention precinct the State Government is expected to announce in its April statement tomorrow.
The precinct's centrepiece will be a 5000-seat convention centre, or plenary hall, earmarked for the former Mazda site next to the Exhibition Centre, widely known as Jeff's Shed.
Business groups have lobbied for years for a new convention venue, arguing that Melbourne's existing 1500-seat centre is hopelessly outdated.
The State Government has been tight-lipped about details of the April statement and has refused to confirm whether the convention centre project would be included.
Government sources said they expected the project to be a public-private partnership, with a private group building the centre and leasing it to the government.
The managers of the existing exhibition centre - a government-appointed trust - are likely to run the new centre.
But the project will hinge on support from the Melbourne City Council, which will be under intense pressure tomorrow to contribute $43 million, including about $15 million for the bridge.
Yesterday's Government announcement that it would return control of Docklands to the council was clearly timed to encourage the council to support the convention centre.
Yesterday a town hall source said the council had demanded it get Docklands back in return for a contribution to the convention centre.
A private town hall briefing today will be the first formal council discussion on the project. A special council meeting to vote on the contribution has been hastily called for tomorrow to coincide with the April statement.
Lord Mayor John So strongly supports the new centre. He will have the numbers to approve a council contribution.
But the council is split, with as many as four of the nine councillors possibly opposed to council involvement.
Finance committee chairman and former Labor Party member Kevin Chamberlin said yesterday the council administration had confirmed that a large contribution would result in service cuts, a rate rise, or both.
If the convention centre was to be a public-private partnership the council should not contribute, he said.
The Committee for Melbourne called on the council to back the project.
"People come to these conventions with millions of disposable dollars and this has a remarkable knock-on effect for business in the city," executive director Janine Kirk said.
State MPs and councillors have questioned whether Melbourne needs a new centre, when existing venues such as the Docklands football stadium can seat 5000.
But the chief executive of the existing Melbourne Exhibition and Convention Centre, Leigh Harry, said that to compete for international conventions, Melbourne needed a centre with a large plenary hall, a large exhibition space, and plenty of smaller meeting rooms.
He said no existing Melbourne venue provided all three.
Mr Harry said among world cities Melbourne had slipped from fourth to 25th in the number of international conventions hosted.
He said that Melbourne's lack of convention capacity made it ineligible for 320 major international conventions.
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can just see you tearing around the joint in that screaming like a banshee Favco 
I would like too Tays, to tell you you the truth it probably has about the same road speed as my crane... Ha hahahahaha....
But I am otherwise occupied in a life fullfilling position so I would have to decline. Thanks for thinking of me but
But I am otherwise occupied in a life fullfilling position so I would have to decline.
Thanks for thinking of me but 
That is going to be a beast of a crane. Huge.
Anyone else catch 9 news tonight? The scraper is now going to have an extra 5 stories on it!! Also they are saying the whole project is in dissaray as they have not planned correctly, and rushed through the planning process, so vehicle access, pedestrian access has to be re-planned. They say there will be massive delays in this project, this dispite a conferrence being booked in 2 years....
So what height does that make it now?
Naturally... I didn't expect this project to run smoothly as it's backed by the state government.Anyone else catch 9 news tonight? The scraper is now going to have an extra 5 stories on it!! Also they are saying the whole project is in dissaray as they have not planned correctly, and rushed through the planning process, so vehicle access, pedestrian access has to be re-planned. They say there will be massive delays in this project, this dispite a conferrence being booked in 2 years....
The Hilton's 25 storeys and about 90m Mixed Use is 30 storeys and about 110m.So what height does that make it now?
Wow, that's better then before, much better. But they better get their act together is phase one is to be done in 2009.
Would be terrible if it wasn't ready for the convention. It would give it a bad name from the start already.
What buildings would that make it equivilant to?The Hilton's 25 storeys and about 90m Mixed Use is 30 storeys and about 110m.
Well, going off emporis, mixed use would be the same height as mmbw on spencer (110m)
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=mmbwhouse-melbourne-australia
And the hilton would be the same as Eifel (90m).
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=streeteifel-melbourne-australia
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=mmbwhouse-melbourne-australia
And the hilton would be the same as Eifel (90m).
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=streeteifel-melbourne-australia
There is an article in todays herald sun about it.
For anyone interested:
$1b baby 'overdue' Convention Centre may not open in '09
Ian Royall, city editor
31 January 2007
Herald-Sun
WORK on the $1 billion Melbourne Convention Centre project faces severe delays, a council report has warned.
The Southbank development began last year but City of Melbourne officers warn that documentation delays could lead to the postponement of approval and construction in the retail or commercial stage.
The plan envisages a 5000-seat convention centre, Hilton Hotel, offices, apartments and shops at the site next to the Exhibition Centre, otherwise known as Jeff's Shed. Plenary Group, the consortium heading the public-private project, rejected the claims and said construction was on time and on budget.
Work has begun on stage 1 of the project -- the hotel tower and convention centre.
The second stage -- the retail or commercial zone -- was in the design and development stage, and still on time, Plenary principal John O'Rourke said.
Opposition major projects spokesman David Davis questioned how one part of the development could go ahead without knowing what the second phase was.
"This project is already behind schedule and has all the hallmarks of another major projects fiasco," he said.
The State Government maintained that the project would finish on schedule.
Matt Nurse, spokesman for Major Projects Minister Theo Theophanous, said the public aspect of the project was on time and budget and should open in 2009: "We already have $100 million worth of conventions booked in for this exciting new facility."
The council report also identified concerns on pedestrian and bicycle access and problems with the Montague St-Lorimer St intersection design.
Melbourne City Council is contributing $43 million to the billion-dollar project.
Cr Peter Clarke said the city should reconsider its contribution until public access issues were resolved.
Cr Clarke said he was concerned about pedestrian, bicycle and public transport access: "We should be deferring any payments until we get resolution on this."
$1b baby 'overdue' Convention Centre may not open in '09
Ian Royall, city editor
31 January 2007
Herald-Sun
WORK on the $1 billion Melbourne Convention Centre project faces severe delays, a council report has warned.
The Southbank development began last year but City of Melbourne officers warn that documentation delays could lead to the postponement of approval and construction in the retail or commercial stage.
The plan envisages a 5000-seat convention centre, Hilton Hotel, offices, apartments and shops at the site next to the Exhibition Centre, otherwise known as Jeff's Shed. Plenary Group, the consortium heading the public-private project, rejected the claims and said construction was on time and on budget.
Work has begun on stage 1 of the project -- the hotel tower and convention centre.
The second stage -- the retail or commercial zone -- was in the design and development stage, and still on time, Plenary principal John O'Rourke said.
Opposition major projects spokesman David Davis questioned how one part of the development could go ahead without knowing what the second phase was.
"This project is already behind schedule and has all the hallmarks of another major projects fiasco," he said.
The State Government maintained that the project would finish on schedule.
Matt Nurse, spokesman for Major Projects Minister Theo Theophanous, said the public aspect of the project was on time and budget and should open in 2009: "We already have $100 million worth of conventions booked in for this exciting new facility."
The council report also identified concerns on pedestrian and bicycle access and problems with the Montague St-Lorimer St intersection design.
Melbourne City Council is contributing $43 million to the billion-dollar project.
Cr Peter Clarke said the city should reconsider its contribution until public access issues were resolved.
Cr Clarke said he was concerned about pedestrian, bicycle and public transport access: "We should be deferring any payments until we get resolution on this."
What's bloody new? Every project in Melbourne since Braxy became premier has had dozens of contoversies, been way over-budget and been severely delayed.
In NSW, things just get done. Look how many tunnels, subways and roads they are building!
When Kennet was premier, things went much more smoother and according to plan, e.g. CityLink.
In NSW, things just get done. Look how many tunnels, subways and roads they are building!
When Kennet was premier, things went much more smoother and according to plan, e.g. CityLink.
Another Project Delay? Thants not news! Thats just the norm!! In Victoria since 1999 anyway.
By the sounds of it the Convention Centre will be completed in time, it's just the second stage office/resi/retail which might not. Nothing to start going grey about just yet.
Piss off moron its a public /private project using PRIVATE CONTRACTORS and PRIVATE sector money.Naturally... I didn't expect this project to run smoothly as it's backed by the state government.
I suggest you post only when you know the facts and than you wont look so stupid:bash: BTW how old are you 12?
The FED SQ, NGV abd Citylink were all Kennett projects that ran many millions of dollars and many months/years over completion times.Another Project Delay? Thants not news! Thats just the norm!! In Victoria since 1999 anyway.
Also Eureka had nothing to do with Bracks was 18 months behind schedule plus the MCG was on budget and on time so get your facts right before mouthing the pathetic Liberal party line!And we all know what happened to them in the last election:cheers:
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