I think that design looks alright, something that is needed for sure.
Like tays said! Thanks for the pics/ info grollo!
Like tays said! Thanks for the pics/ info grollo!
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Cox group are in the habit of recycling ideas - notice the similarity to King Street Wharf in that promenade perspective?
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As far as a masterplan goes, it is very straightforward. Nothing really unexpected. I think the extension of the exhibition halls will be very awkward, but there is not much choice.
Personally, I think it should be a very different design to the exhibition centre, and have a very neutral connection so as not to interfere too much with the promenade / concourse of the existing building. I think it should be either very complementary (IE - a DCM design) or totally different, but VERY contrasting (say an ARM)....the masterplan images are not much of either
As a very preliminary masterplan sketch, the main problem I have with this is the rectangular buildings with curved roofs that surround the plenery hall - they box it in and don't give any chance for the hall to have its own object / expression....Of course, it is JUST a masterplan so it has to be neutral and non-committal (and uninspiring!) until the real design is chosen.
@Collector - watch for another Hassell - AGE collaboration soon
As far as a masterplan goes, it is very straightforward. Nothing really unexpected. I think the extension of the exhibition halls will be very awkward, but there is not much choice.
Personally, I think it should be a very different design to the exhibition centre, and have a very neutral connection so as not to interfere too much with the promenade / concourse of the existing building. I think it should be either very complementary (IE - a DCM design) or totally different, but VERY contrasting (say an ARM)....the masterplan images are not much of either
As a very preliminary masterplan sketch, the main problem I have with this is the rectangular buildings with curved roofs that surround the plenery hall - they box it in and don't give any chance for the hall to have its own object / expression....Of course, it is JUST a masterplan so it has to be neutral and non-committal (and uninspiring!) until the real design is chosen.
@Collector - watch for another Hassell - AGE collaboration soon
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/08/03/1091476487942.html
Convention hall 'must go green'
By Helen Westerman
August 4, 2004
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The Property Council is calling for a 50 per cent reduction in energy use. The Victorian Government announced in April it would commit $367 million to build a new "world-class" convention centre and 5000 seat plenary hall into the Melbourne Exhibition Centre.
Picture:Craig Abraham
The Victorian Government needs to "go green" with the design of Melbourne's new convention centre or risk being uncompetitive against international centres, according to peak industry body the Property Council of Australia.
The call to develop the new centre as a green icon has been backed by the Green Building Council and the Energy Sustainability Authority.
But the PCA also warns a "token green effort" could undermine the project's viability, especially if the State Government sacrifices sustainability principles because they cost more.
The Victorian Government announced in April it would commit $367 million to build a new "world-class" convention centre and 5000 seat plenary hall into the Melbourne Exhibition Centre, as part of a redevelopment of Southbank.
Melbourne City Council will commit $43 million. This week it announced infrastructure spending around the centre, including $15 million for a footbridge to link the centre with Docklands.
The Government also wants to see private-sector investment of up to $400 million to develop hotels, restaurants and retail outlets around the site.
With planning in preliminary stages, the Government says the extent to which environmental standards and principals are to be included is still being considered. Expressions of interest will be sought in October.
But PCA executive director Jennifer Cunich says now is the time to ensure that the centre is developed as a "green icon".
"This project is an important one for Melbourne and Victoria to attract major conferences and it shouldn't be sacrificed as it's not going to come up soon again," Ms Cunich says.
The PCA is calling for a 50 per cent reduction in energy use, storm-water recycling, and for the project to plant native gardens to improve indoor air quality, recycle all demolition material and use "approved green building materials".
A yet-to-be-published Property Council paper claims Pittsburgh's David L. Lawrence Convention Centre in the US attracted 35 per cent more conventions in its first year by using "green" as a marketing feature.
However, Ms Cunich believes a competitive advantage could be lost if the Government opts for a development that simply has the lowest dollar value, rather than sustainability principles.
"It's my understanding there've been a number of projects that have had the opportunity to be more leading edge, but it's been weighed up against cost and decided that's not the way to go," she says.
A US survey found ensuring buildings were "green" added 2 per cent to capital costs. However, the argument is that this is recouped in longer-term operating savings and life-cycle costs.
Sustainable Energy Authority business director Megan Wheatley says sustainable innovation in some areas often leads to cost savings in others.
Grocon director and board member of the Green Building Council Daniel Grollo says the new centre offers Melbourne an opportunity to set new international benchmarks.
"To be the most sustainable convention centre in the world is probably not a bad marketing element," he says.
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$10 says this is Grollo's next big project
Convention hall 'must go green'
By Helen Westerman
August 4, 2004
The Property Council is calling for a 50 per cent reduction in energy use. The Victorian Government announced in April it would commit $367 million to build a new "world-class" convention centre and 5000 seat plenary hall into the Melbourne Exhibition Centre.
Picture:Craig Abraham
The Victorian Government needs to "go green" with the design of Melbourne's new convention centre or risk being uncompetitive against international centres, according to peak industry body the Property Council of Australia.
The call to develop the new centre as a green icon has been backed by the Green Building Council and the Energy Sustainability Authority.
But the PCA also warns a "token green effort" could undermine the project's viability, especially if the State Government sacrifices sustainability principles because they cost more.
The Victorian Government announced in April it would commit $367 million to build a new "world-class" convention centre and 5000 seat plenary hall into the Melbourne Exhibition Centre, as part of a redevelopment of Southbank.
Melbourne City Council will commit $43 million. This week it announced infrastructure spending around the centre, including $15 million for a footbridge to link the centre with Docklands.
The Government also wants to see private-sector investment of up to $400 million to develop hotels, restaurants and retail outlets around the site.
With planning in preliminary stages, the Government says the extent to which environmental standards and principals are to be included is still being considered. Expressions of interest will be sought in October.
But PCA executive director Jennifer Cunich says now is the time to ensure that the centre is developed as a "green icon".
"This project is an important one for Melbourne and Victoria to attract major conferences and it shouldn't be sacrificed as it's not going to come up soon again," Ms Cunich says.
The PCA is calling for a 50 per cent reduction in energy use, storm-water recycling, and for the project to plant native gardens to improve indoor air quality, recycle all demolition material and use "approved green building materials".
A yet-to-be-published Property Council paper claims Pittsburgh's David L. Lawrence Convention Centre in the US attracted 35 per cent more conventions in its first year by using "green" as a marketing feature.
However, Ms Cunich believes a competitive advantage could be lost if the Government opts for a development that simply has the lowest dollar value, rather than sustainability principles.
"It's my understanding there've been a number of projects that have had the opportunity to be more leading edge, but it's been weighed up against cost and decided that's not the way to go," she says.
A US survey found ensuring buildings were "green" added 2 per cent to capital costs. However, the argument is that this is recouped in longer-term operating savings and life-cycle costs.
Sustainable Energy Authority business director Megan Wheatley says sustainable innovation in some areas often leads to cost savings in others.
Grocon director and board member of the Green Building Council Daniel Grollo says the new centre offers Melbourne an opportunity to set new international benchmarks.
"To be the most sustainable convention centre in the world is probably not a bad marketing element," he says.
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$10 says this is Grollo's next big project
Depends if Grocon gets the Burj Dubai contract, if they do I think they will be pretty busy for the next four or five years
...is that a good thing?tayser said:$10 says this is Grollo's next big project
the amount of cut corners on the MCG and QV is staggering...
Either way, it will be won by a consortium that Grocon will be a part of, not just on their own. There will most likely be 3-4 consortiums shortlisted. I can almost guarantee the consortiums will be:
Grocon, Baulderstone Hornibrook, Multiplex and maybe Leightons (if they decide to bid, but based on Southern Cross...)
because it is a PPP, the consortium financiers and facility managers are equally as important as the builders to winning
Grocon have not much experience in PPP projects and the Royal Womens Hospital is the first one they have done to my knowledge....
ABN Amro and Macquarie Bank will be among the main players from the banks side
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