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The DA is now on exhibition D/2019/258



https://online2.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/DA/IndividualApplication?tpklapappl=1414468



The winner of design comp was DKO.



Here are renders from the DA which have some design changes since the design comp.















Render from the design comp



The third photo shows terraces instead of the childcare.

I have not seen any proper photomontages of the childcare yet. I am worried that it may look like the one Meriton did on Rothschild Ave in Rosebery (big wall, zero integration to the street)

I still think that the new lane is too narrow and it will definitely impact the terraces on Christies lane. We have to remember that the NSW government will be building a new school a few meters away on the same street and there is already a new childcare right next to it. It is going to be very busy.

I definitely prefer the terraces instead of another childcare.
 

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The new lane btwn Elizabeth and Portman streets, is pedestrian only.
It will be called Frog Park Lane.

As far as I can understand from trying to put together the info, the child care centre (blame council) will be on the ground floor off Portman St underneath the first floor garden level, tucked behind the Frog Park Ln terraces,* but we will have to wait for the final approval to see how it is resolved. Elevations are from the revised plans in the current DA. See also supermarket plan.

As upwards noted, the images are from the design comp entry and not the final design resolution.

There will also be a supermarket (unspecified who) and 4 shops essentially fronting onto Zetland Avenue. As the plan shows, the supermarket is tucked back under the buildings & behind the smaller shops, which will make for a much better streetscape.


Ground floor plan - for the moment, but seems secure as it is the result of redesign since the design comp.
Zetland Avenue is at the front (bottom of image) and Joynton Avenue is on the right.

* correction after further scrutiny of the elevations.
 

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The new lane btwn Elizabeth and Portman streets, is pedestrian only.
It will be called Frog Park Lane.

As far as I can understand from trying to put together the info, the child care centre (blame council) will be on the ground floor off Portman St underneath the first floor garden level, tucked behind the Frog Park Ln terraces,* but we will have to wait for the final approval to see how it is resolved. Elevations are from the revised plans in the current DA. See also supermarket plan.

As upwards noted, the images are from the design comp entry and not the final design resolution.

There will also be a supermarket (unspecified who) and 4 shops essentially fronting onto Zetland Avenue. As the plan shows, the supermarket is tucked back under the buildings & behind the smaller shops, which will make for a much better streetscape.


Ground floor plan - for the moment, but seems secure as it is the result of redesign since the design comp.
Zetland Avenue is at the front (bottom of image) and Joynton Avenue is on the right.

* correction after further scrutiny of the elevations.


Supermarket or Asia Grocery store with all windows and doors covered with Chinese ads all over and with zero street or neighborhood integration, same as the ‘supermarkets’ in Symphony by Meriton or 20 Gadigal by Meriton???

I can’t upload the photos of those developments but that’s the quality of retail in the recent Meriton developments around Zetland

I am not very excited about this DA at all
 

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Well done Clover.



The entire footpath and kerbside on the Uno side as been ripped up.
City of Sydney built and completed this section of Geddes outside Uno, it never opened but somehow managed to subside. They’re now redoing this whole side of the road.



At least they’re making solid progress on raising Joynton.

 

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For an organisation that is so rigid, controlling and demanding of others, it is not doing a very convincing job of regulating itself and maintaining the standards it sets for others.
Comes from the top.
 

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Hatbands site on Sonny Leonard Street, aka 511 Botany Road.


Two cranes up on site as seen from Portman Lane on top of the Barker Street Steps.


Image of front of main building to Sonny Leonard Street from intersection with Hinchcliffe Street.
Architect: Candalepas Associates
 

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UNO BUILDINGS
Geddes Av, Paul St, Portman St & Sonny Leonard St.
Zetland.

Architect: SJB ARCHITECTS

Developer: Bridgehill

Tallest building is Building A @ 16 storeys and c.50m.


The UNO buildings viewed at the corner of Geddes Avenue and Paul Street.



North front to Geddes Avenue with the canopied entrance to the atrium garden.


The corner of Sonny Leonard Street (left) and Portman Street.


UNO tower east side to Portman Street.


UNO tower viewed from Joynton Avenue across the heritage buildings of the former Royal South Sydney Hospital*.


Zoom in to same view of UNO tower from Joynton Avenue.

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* A pity they didn't keep these buildings and update them as a hospital given the huge leap in local population from c.3000 in 2000 to c.30K now and projected to rise to 60K+ by 2030 making it the densest area in Australia.
 

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JADE
Paul St, Portman St, Sonny Leonard St & Tosh Ln.
Zetland

Architect: Neeson Murcutt Architects

Developer: Bridgehill

2 linked buildings of 7 & 6 storeys



East side to Portman Street - no access to other streets.


Entrance on Portman Street.


View north-ish along Portman Street with Jade at front left and UNO Buildings on north side of Sonny Leonard Street.
 

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Anyone have any intel on when the new/upgraded entrance to Green Square station will be open? There's a board at the entrance that says 'Opening April 2019', and since that time the 'April' has been scratched out!
 

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Anyone have any intel on when the new/upgraded entrance to Green Square station will be open? There's a board at the entrance that says 'Opening April 2019', and since that time the 'April' has been scratched out!
More then likely still over a month away. There’s still an external hole.

Yesterday.



http://i.imgur.com/YHJUf0p.jpg
 

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INFRASTRUCTURE

pix June 12.


Sonny Leonard Street looking west from Portman Street toward Paul Street.
Two cranes are on Lateral Estates' Site 11 buildings.


Tosh Lane looking west from Portman Street toward Paul Street.


Final leg of Paul Street, east lane, at Tosh Lane where it joins Dunning Avenue.


Final leg of Paul Street, west lane, at Tosh Lane.
The green building is the soon to be completed Jade Apartments, with UNO Apartments beyond on the north side of Sonny Leonard Street.
 

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SITE 18

RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY CSPC THURSDAY MEETING 20 JUNE


DA 2017/503 - note date of lodgement.


East side viewed from Zetland Avenue/The Drying Green Park.
This is the 'improved' design after 'processing' by council and the design advisory committee. Original colour was a bold gold and the fenestration pattern was much more lively, rising gradually from narrow shapes at the bottom to wider shapes at the top. Still a good design but not all that the original design competition entry promised - a familiar lament.

Architect:
Original: BATES SMART ARCHITECTS
Current: Mirvac Design.

20 storeys @ RL 86.5m > 67.8m (call it 68m)
104 apartments + ground floor retail (3 spaces?)
$60.7m.


Aerial view showing location of site.


View from Green Square Plaza.
Shows gold colour so I think this is superseded image from Design Comp. Gives the idea but colour it blue.
Vertical blank building is the Library Tower, now completed.


Elevation of east side viewed from Zetland Avenue/The Drying Green Park.


Ground floor plan showing odd plan and location of retail spaces.
 

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SITES 7 & 17

RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY CSPC THURSDAY MEETING 20 JUNE


DA 2017/564 - note date of lodgement - it's about April of that year.



The two buildings viewed across Green Square Plaza from the south.

Architect:
Original: SylvesterFuller (suspect they got fed up with constant quibbling by council and design advisory committee).
Final: Tzannes Architects (note signs of frustration in text of dealings with council and design advisory committee.)

Site 7: 16 storeys RL 60.4m (c.54m.?) 123 apartments Cinema Commercial Retail

Site 17: 13 storeys (c.44m.?) 71 apartments Commercial Retail

$125.8m

The Location of the sites - nb east end on the right of red outlined area, is Site 18.


Location of the sites, closer aerial view showing Infinity and Ovo Tower.



Site 7 building from Green Square Plaza, with Infinity on the left and Site 18 building on the rear right.
The cinema is the curved corner area.


Site 17 building from the Green Square Plaza.


Site 17 building detail of corner entrance to commercial floors above.


Final design of Site 7 building on Ebsworth Street at Tweed Place.


Final design of Site 17 building on Ebsworth Street at Fellmonger Place.


Council/design advisory committee at work.


Council/design advisory committee at work.


Fellmonger Place from Ebsworth Street.
 

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Fantastic to see movement on sites 7, 17 and 18 finally. It is a real shame they're just finishing Infinity and the library and plaza, but now only just starting a new construction site, which will reduce amenity for another two years, when they could have been doing it all concurrently. Poor management.

Any word on when construction will commence and complete on these sites?
 

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You have to keep in mind finance, sales, and the logic of not swamping the market, especially with the recent downturn in the market, and the ability to raise money to sustain construction as well as find enough skilled workers. Even Mirvac can't sensibly and responsibly justify overbuilding.

Also, Mirvac is not the only player at the Town Centre and the greater Green Square Urban Renewal Area which includes the Lachlan Precinct, Waterloo, North Rosebery, Epsom Park, Zetland, Mary O'Brien Precinct, Zetland, and assorted smaller projects in Waterloo and Alexandria.

In the GSQ Town Centre, Bridgehill has UNO and Jade projects nearing completion with sites 9A (16 storeys) & 9B (9 storeys) waiting in the wings. Lateral Estate had no less than 6 buildings under construction on sites 10 & 11, heights ranging from 3 to 9 storeys.
Don't forget Site 14 (Meriton - up to 15 storeys) and Site 15 (Mirvac - up to 23 storeys) are in the pipeline.

There is no word on when sites 7, 17 & 18 will commence construction, together or singly.
 

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New hoardings and digging at the Drying Green.



I’m thinking it’ll be ready just in time for Avatar 3. Site 7.

Somehow they've managed to delay construction of a park by several years? Perhaps one of the neighbours wanted it reduced in height or something.

Green square has been underway for 20 years. It's time to get on with finishing it, moving the amenity and shops in, and making it a real suburb. The endless delays are maddening.
 
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